it loaded a bit after...  bad news is it messed up and is now 77% blockchain sync, that's gonna be a while.    

I updated an old wallet finally to 2.0.11 and when trying to open the new zencash swing wallet its been hung up on "starting GUI wallet" for about 45 minutes now?  Any thoughts, I've never seen it take this long without an error?  the green progress bar is still active so no signs of freezing either.

thoughts?

the correction in zen is more severe than that of bitcoin.  bitcoin printed a low near 6k and then a higher low near 8.5k.  similar action of higher lows can be found in ltc, eth and xmr as well while holding key relative support levels. those corrections are fine and normal with the latter happening. meanwhile zen tests the same brutal low and has almost lost big support levels. bitcoin almost 10k again and zen still under 25, there's limited correlation there. stronger correlation can be found in the z coins, like zec is getting hit similarly hard.  a real s**t show out there in z land right now. none of them exuding any strength technically.

Yep, the reindex worked, only about 9 hours lol. a quick google netted the same link posted above.  but I figured with the length of time that required i'd ask here for more info as a precautionary measure, glad that fixed it though.  hardware wallet support can't get here soon enough.  I have a rule i won't invest much time/$ in any project if i can't use a hardware wallet.  the risk is too much a deterrent for anything substantial and time is far too valuable to waste on small stuff.  ZEN is the only one where I've made an exception as I like the project so far and the mining has been pretty good.  Can't pass up that double win.

Alright I've initiated a zend -reindex in command prompt. looks like it'll be a while. fingers crossed it works.

Anyone offer suggestions for how to fix this while trying to open a swing wallet.  Would really appreciate it.  Tell it to me like I'm 5 just in case lol, thanks.

i disagree.  I think they can and are making a good product. as good as most others at least.  this entire space is still long term, it's all in its infancy.  if anything it appears the "makers" here might be missing the money side and marketing side powerhouses they need to compete.  it's still early enough that i don't see it as a failure yet, but it is worth noting.

Seems to me that some people are getting upset about the fact that the zen team has been clear that they are playing the long game.  Focusing the vast majority of efforts on the long term tech CAN potentially have a huge payoff.  But only if the more vocal, well known, established and marketed coins don't offer anything even close in competition to kill you off as the vastly better marketed coin will win the market share unless it's trash because most people do not understand/or care enough about the tech to see why zen is/will/can be better.  They hear privacy coin and think they're all the same. while hardcore users may know the differences that barely worth mentioning when it comes to any total market. There are even plenty of people who are fairly well versed in this scene who haven't even heard of zen. Roger Ver and CNBC are perfect examples of this.  They both aggressively spew complete garbage all day and tons of people lap it up.

The big boat for the previous stage of awareness, user growth and $$$$ increase was missed.  that is a fact.  right now there are only some smaller tug boats in this market per say. the bullish euphoria around the end of last year was an opportunity zen did not capitalize on for a few reasons.  Some clear to everyone and maybe some only the devs know.  I feel as though those opportunities are important to take advantage of because the pace of growth and leadership leap frogging is near unprecedented.  It all counts. this year will be very different then last and 2019 will be that much different again.

We are now stuck in a corrective phase for the entirety of the crypto market.  Therefore any good news might as well be no news and any great news might as well be only good news etc.  It is wisest to market and explain your product when the audience is starving for it.  Right now not many are even hungry.  You could drop some "zen will be on binance" news right now and it's effects would be drastically lower than just a month ago when people were desperately wanting news.  Hopefully bullish spirits get flowing again before there is any great news and hopefully all that happens before governments make this even harder for the masses to understand/like/adopt.

Coming back around. "people are getting upset about the fact that the zen team has been clear that they are playing the long game".
This is something that could potentially not be an issue and work out great, but the fact is this could be an issue down the road that simply was avoidable in the first place.  I hope this "white night" stuff doesn't come down to being naivety that slowly hinders the project.  I'd argue the transparent, do right, long term tech plan is solid but there needs to be an entirely new attack vector for short term growth and awareness at all times. The competition is out there aggressively scheming, paying and in some case straight up lying to beat you.  Most people can and will never see through that unless you counter it.

poorly formatted, i know. I just rambled as i thought.  just some things that popped into my head from a decade+ portfolio manager experience.

https cert is still invalid?

great, keep us updated.

Glad you're posting here finpunk. It all helps.

I understand the tech comes first as it should, but in a market absolutely flooded with news, coins, projects, drama, ignorance and deceit tech alone barely speaks for itself.  Most people don't understand bitcoin, then most the people that understand the gist of bitcoin barely get privacy coins or care.  Currently we're left with a subset of a subset of a smaller subset as a base.  Some serious effective marketing and touting the WHY of the tech needs to be blasted out there.  No exaggerations, no BS pumps just simple explanations of why this project can be the best in the space.

Unless I'm just out of the loop and there IS a huge push planned to market once a soft re brand or jump in features happens something needs to be done there.  I understand not wanting to be considered a pump and dump. But there's an effective middle ground where hyping and spreading the word of real tech, real goals achieved and a realistic road map can achieve marketing goals without ever labeling the project as pumped.

Marketing needs to have a trailing pace with the tech to keep up with the market.  It will simply be too hard to leap frog or legitimately compete with older leaders once certain levels of maturation happen in the market share.  Gotta play both sides of the ball here.  Offense and defense.  

edit: even stuff like "Operation Radical Transparency" won't mean much if the viewing audience doesn't grow substantially.

sorry for your loss man. hopefully you get a break and the pool has no issues.

script still shows up in workers list for me.

edit: cleared up now

Unlucky is right

As long as zen payouts continue without a hitch, upgrades and temporary front end issues aren't much of a problem.  Keep the updates coming though!

great, thanks. I'll let it go through the night then for a proper read. hopefully all the updates go smoothly kosta.

site can be slow and show the wrong data for a little while as long as the payouts are accurate and sols aren't wasted it's all good, issues happen.

that said i've brought back quite a bit of sols here and i'm still seeing a low payout, is that still an issue or am i mistaken and need to give it more time?

How's the pool doing, ok to come back yet?

use the missed opportunities and mistakes as lessons to learn from and move on.  regret and "shoulda coulda woulda" is for losers.

I cut back on this pool a lot yesterday, now only using 5% of hash power here to see if the issues can be fixed over the weekend.  No word from the admin(s) also isn't great.  It was a pretty nice pool so I'll give them the weekend with a test rig. Also nice to spread the hash around a bit.