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We paid in BTC, not dollars. So we should actually get more back than we paid, in theory.
I would have to agree. In my opinion, because bitcoin in itself has interest, as it constantly rises, our assembly refunds rightfully must be returned to us in the form of which we payed, in bitcoins (in denomination of cost based on the time history for which we payed for them when they were worth $80-$120 ea. per BTC). Because for a ridiculous example, I payed $560 for Assembly in bitcoins, of which at the time they were worth ~$112 ea., be it that I sent ~5 BTC for assembly, if by happenstance in the future a bitcoin increased to an extreme value (which it possibly may) such as $5,000+, that is $25,000 that I could have simply sat on--significantly more than being returned $560 assembly refund based on USD such as, I would get only .112 BTC back in this extreme example, when initially it was 5 BTC i sent over (44 times that!) Prices were quoted in usd. If btc had gone down in value you would be complaining and wanting your refunds in usd. The constructive, useful, interesting posts in this thread and only just enough to keep people here. I'm desperate for the refunds to be paid out so the whining will stop.
I demanded my full refunds months ago, when the price of Bitcoin was nearly a third of what is it today.So either pay up in BTC or using those rates. Look, it's not bullshit. Steamboat said that Assembly prices were $USD, payable in bitcoin. You paid a USD amount in bitcoin and asking for an equal number of bitcoin (much greater $USD value, which SB paid for components/assembly/shipping costs-these are all paid in USD) is unfair to Steamboat. You knew the risks; Steamboat is human, just like all of us, and doing his best. Patience is a virtue (I'm looking at you cardcomm) and this will be sorted out eventually. I'm not pleased with how things turned out either, but it's an unfortunate reality and we were all informed and took the risks involved. |
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So I tried this method 8? days ago, and my dispute, emails, and phone calls with PayPal all resulted in me not getting my money back. I have gone through my bank, and a "conditional credit" showed up in my account yesterday after contacting them on the 3rd and explaining the entire situation.
Success? We'll have to see. But I have my money back as of now. We'll see if those bastards try and ship to me.
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I am in batch 6 and never received an e-mail about a refund.
I'm a little confused about what is happening right now. At this point are there any plans to manufacture functioning 110nm gen I Avalon based Fusion 16's with chips ordered through Steamboat's group buy, or is the original Fusion 16 assembly only for people supplying their own gen 1 Avalon chips, that paid for assembly only? I have purchased 32 batch 6 chips through the group buy and assembly for two fully tested units.
If I read it correctly it sounds like I have four options:
Option 1: If I do nothing at this point, am I to assume that all Avalon gen 1 chip orders are going to be refunded to Steamboat, who will then use those funds to proceed with a different chip design? This next chip may or may not be gen 2 55nm Avalon chips purchased at a reduced rate? If gen 2 55nm Avalon chips are chosen this option may entail additional charges due to the unknown price, unknown amount of the discount, and unknown level of rework required for board design.
Option 2: I request a chip refund from Steamboat for 95% of the BTC purchase price. I then wait for a new chip to be selected and the K16 board to be retrofitted. I will then have to purchase the new chips and my assembly payment will be credited towards a renegotiated per unit rate.
Option 3: I request a chip refund from Steamboat for 95% of the BTC purchase price. I can then receive a Fusion 16 that is complete besides the lack of functioning chips.
Option 4: I request a complete refund from Steamboat for 95% of the BTC purchase price and 25% of assembly price.
If my above assumptions are generally true, I would probably favor option 1. We have all been led to believe the gen 2 Avalon chip would require the least amount of rework. I don't really care about what is under the hood as long as I receive a functioning piece of hardware that has a fair chance of breaking even in the short run. This is just a fun hobby for me. I didn't bet the farm on a get rich quick scheme. If I can break even after a year of mining I'll be happy. heh..
Chad
If you do nothing, You will be moved into an earlier batch (since your batch has been refunded) and you will eventually get a working miner with Gen1 Avalon chips. |
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What about chip shipments for those who aren't really interested in refunds?
When are the chips going to ship??? Or rather, have ANY chips shipped???
No chips have shown up yet. Yifu is being very vague and not really telling anyone when their chips are shipping. The same thing happened with the sample chips; they kind of just showed up one day. It's been mentioned on here that there would be little surprise if this trend continued for the batches. |
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Im building a gaming pc because Ive just got Rome 2. Do you think its a good idea to get a 7950 previously used for mining, or are they just gonna die on me?
On a related note, I have a Sapphire 7950 that I've been using from April-end of July if you're interested  What u looking to get out of it? Also, what is the cond.? Truly, it's still in pretty good shape. It's got some dust on it, but the fans still spin really well, and the card still performs like brand new. It was run in Michigan over May-June-July, never pushed over 80C, the fans rarely hit >75%. It overclocks very well also, past 1150MHz engine with zero problems (I've seen several people going to 1200 bumping up the voltage and going for a different cooler). As far as price goes, whatever you're willing to pay really; I understand that the card's been used for mining and not for regular everyday usage. PM me and we can discuss further. |
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Im building a gaming pc because Ive just got Rome 2. Do you think its a good idea to get a 7950 previously used for mining, or are they just gonna die on me?
On a related note, I have a Sapphire 7950 that I've been using from April-end of July if you're interested |
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Also luck is a huge one. Hardware reports one hashrate, but the "true" rate is the estimate based on the time it takes to solve blocks. Just like your CGMiner hashrate probably varies somewhat from what your pool reports, just my 2c here.
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So I just got my xfx 6970 in the mail and even with the fans at 50% it sounds like a jet. Are there any AMD cards that get good hash rates while not being super loud? Also I dont want it running hot all the time. It will be good in the winter, but right now Im just dying in my room cause of the temps. Thanks. Also let me know what card you are using, your hash rate, and the temps you manage to keep it on. Thanks! Every 6970 I've ever had is stupidly loud. I would suggest replacing the stock cooler. I use this one on my 6970s: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186052I run the fans at 70% to keep the temperature around 70-75C under full load while mining. The fans are essentially silent. I could run them at 100% and maybe barely hear it over my case fans. But if you've ever owned an arctic made cooler you probably knew it would be quiet So if I get this aftermarket cooler its much more silent than the stock one? Was it hard installing it? Im afraid of damaging my card. Im always up for trying something. Oh yes MUCH quieter. Installation was a bit more tricky. If you read reviews on it the bad things to say are always the same, instructions suck and its a bulky heat sink. Which are both true. What makes it tricky is that it comes with miniature heat sinks that you use special thermal glue to adhere to the RAM and VRM circuits on the board. Those small heatsinks combined with the big one and two fans are what make it work so well...but also what makes it not so simple to install. It takes 60 mins for the thermal glue they provide to cure, which just means you sit and watch it dry for an hour lol. Including the 60 minute wait time it took me about 90 mins total to install it I bought my Diamond 6970 with this cooler on it from eBay. Runs SUPER quiet, keeps temps in the 60s under full load! Downsides: it is bulky. Doesn't really jive well with my SATA ports without a riser. |
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What do I have to do to get this: http://www.adafruit.com/products/1030To work with MinePeon? It works in Raspbian just fine using the standard wireless config tool. I'm running it off a hub. It doesn't detect it in wicd-curses, doesn't even light up. Switch over to raspbian again, works like a charm. Edit: The adafruit adapters work using this tutorial: http://blog.lemoneerlabs.com/?tag=/Ada+Fruit+Wifi+ModuleIt's somewhat lengthy (also takes some trial+error), but I got it working in ~20 minutes. |
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What about using the wasted electricity to heat your shower water? Or to cook? How would one do this?Easy enough with a GPU, harder for an ASIC as you would need a custom water cooling block for the ASIC. With a GPU, you just pop on a water cooling block in place of the air cooled heatsink. You would need to have a hot water tank with an indirect heating coil. Essentially that is just a coil of copper pipe that is inside the hot water tank and the ends of that coil are external to the tank. You would rig a pump to pump the hot water coming off the GPU into one end of the coil and then rig up a return pipe to take the water coming out of the other end of the coil and run it back into the GPU cooling block. When you start out with a tank full of cold water, the water coming back out of the coil will be cold and will go straight back into the GPU. Over time, as you heat up the water in the tank, you will see that the temperature of the water coming out of the coil will warm up and eventually be too hot to be fed back into the GPU. So, you will need one other component in the system, a water/air radiator in the line between the coil exit and the GPU input so that you can still cool the GPU even when the water in the tank is hot. OK, but scalding water is like 42C, brisk for a GPU and acceptable for an ASIC. Your hot water regulator could be a computer-controlled diverter valve with a fan and radiator (heated air for the winter, could just be exhausted in the summer) to keep it in that range. |
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18674 2013-06-21 00:55:36 1:07:59 16477367 2305 0.00358311 242516 25.52708500 90 confirmations left
18673 2013-06-20 23:47:37 1:05:06 15732349 2266 0.00386177 242509 25.25864857 83 confirmations left
18672 2013-06-20 22:42:31 1:18:33 19158866 380 0.00313452 242497 25.06230101 71 confirmations left
18671 2013-06-20 21:23:58 3:47:07 54211201 4360 0.00000000 242486 25.25275299 60 confirmations left
Anyone else get zero on #18671
Looks like you had a disconnect near the end of that round because of your low share count in the next round and steady reward. |
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I like free things!
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Thanks in advance!
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The "cash in your karma" feature is fantastic. I got another ~0.0012 BTC, haha.
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Yeah, it's going to be really interesting to see how they handle this... Especially because it is truly an internationally understood currency. I guess that's mostly due to its decentralization. It's hard for me to imagine a scenario where the US government shuts the operation down, but it seems like they're making an attempt already to regulate the exchanges in a reactive way.
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