Actually the GitHub was recently changed:

https://github.com/shiftproject

This is where the latest updated version of wallet etc. should be downloaded. This is confirmed by the CMC listing being updated ("Source Code" link on https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/shift links to this Github, not the old one).

I'm not saying your wrong, I really don't know the answer, but can you elaborate on why cold minting would matter when other projects use cold forging? How is cold minting a differentiator? Or do you mean that even if it is not unique, it will still give PPC more attractive features which will therefore increase the price? Maybe I don't understand the technology of cold minting, so I want to make sure I'm following correctly.

There's an active thread in the speculation forum that you guys might be interested in reading up on:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3339486.0

There seem to be some compelling arguments that the price could 10X or even go over 20X by the end of Q2

Does anyone know how reliable the Coinloop AI predictions have been in the past?

You speak like it's a given that they can solve the storage related scaling problem for large dApp chains but it is just a rumor right now. Aside from that, the points seem valid to me.

As I said in another thread about Shift, IMO Shift will be pushed to $1b+ market cap simply by the fact they they will be one of the first, if not the first, dApp platforms to implement Sidechains. This solves for dApp platforms the scaling problem (like DAG solves the scaling problem for currency/store of value tokens). If Shift delivers on sidechains before Lisk, as they plan in their roadmap, then IMO Shift can become the Raiblocks of dApp platforms. Raiblocks is another dPOS-based token that had no ICO and just worked on making the product solid before doing any marketing. There are similarities in the team's philosophy IMO.

The other key factor is that Shift is an entire dApp platform with unlimited use cases (more dApps can be easily developed with Javascript). But unlike other dApp platforms, Shift already comes with a pre-bundled decentralized hosting dApp to help drive adoption of the ecosystem. The website homepage (shiftnrg.org which already as others pointed out is hosted through their web hosting dApp Phantom) explains this "killer dApp" concept of how having a great dApp bundled with the platform will drive adoption of both the dApp itself and the platform's ecosystem by stimulating the development and adoption of more dApps for that platform.

I'm surprised that Shift isn't already $500m+ because the current upside is so huge (i.e. a next-gen all-in-one dApp platform, plus a web and file hosting dApp combined into one), and it will easily go past $1b IMO this year, and this could happen before the end of Q1 IMO.

My prediction is $2b by the end of 2018. The original System Architect of Lisk joined Shift in late December, which should tell you a lot about the merits of the project. Shift is going to be huge. I've been a holder since ~$1 but I'm not selling until at least $1b+ market cap. It's going to happen this year.

IMO the key factor that will push Shift to $1b+ market cap is that they should be one of the first, if not the first, platforms to implement Sidechains. This is huge because it solves for dApp platforms the scaling problem, like DAG solves the scaling problem for currency/store of value tokens. If Shift delivers on sidechains before Lisk, as they plan in their roadmap, then Shift could become the Raiblocks of dApp platforms.

The other key factor is that Shift is an entire dApp platform with unlimited use cases (more dApps can be easily developed with Javascript) but it already comes with a pre-bundled decentralized hosting dApp to help drive adoption of the ecosystem. The website homepage (shiftnrg.org which already as others pointed out is hosted through their web hosting dApp Phantom) explains this "killer dApp" concept. It is absolutely mind-boggling that Shift isn't already $500m+ because the current upside is so huge (i.e. that of a file and web hosting dApp plus that of a next-gen dApp platform in one) and it will easily go past $1b IMO this year, could even happen in Q1. My prediction is $2b by the end of 2018. It should tell you a lot that the original System Architect of Lisk joined Shift in late December. I think this project is going to be huge.

$10+ already and it's still days before the Phantom prototype release. Congrats to all holders.

I think that incredible things are coming in Q1 2018. My original predictions earlier in this thread have continued to be surpassed as I've been tracking this project for the past 3+ months. With the uptrend continuing to accelerate over every time frame (1wk/1mo/3mo/1yr), I have said elsewhere that I now think it's possible to see $30-50 within the next six weeks. First working prototype in this niche ahead of Storj, Filecoin, Substratum, and all the other higher cap coins in the same niche is a big deal and Shift's marketing has barely even begun. Shift actually is a broader project than the others because it's an entire dApp platform combined all in one with the Phantom decentralized web hosting tech. Even $100+ is possible in the next several months IMO.

I'm not going to sell and will keep watching to see how far this goes in the coming months especially. Based on how 2017 is finishing, it looks like we're gearing up for a hell of a ride soon.

Blasted through the 60k sell wall like it was cheap window glass. $10+ already and it's still days before the release. Congrats to all holders. Incredible things coming in Q1 2018 IMO. I think it's possible to see $30-50 within the next six weeks. First working prototype of this decentralized hosting tech ahead of Storj, Substratum, and all the others is a big deal and Shift's marketing has barely even begun.

Shift is unstoppable: over $10 now and it's still days before the prototype release 

Given that Shift seems to have already reached decent support at ~$3.78 with over 12 days left in the month, it seems possible that the support might be $5-6 by the time the end of the month arrives. So my estimates may have been too conservative. Based on the acceleration of this uptrend and the support reaching higher earlier than expected, I think it's very possible that this coin could go to $25 after the end of the month. I would therefore no longer sell any of my stack at a target lower than that. Even if Shift doesn't reach $25 (market cap of about $288m) around close to after the end of the month, it can probably reach this in January anyway. This buildup looks huge and has probably been building for at least three months before now. IMO the exceptionally low supply of this coin means it can easily go 10X even from the current price at the rate that this uptrend is accelerating.

Updating the observations, there was another large whale buy order on Bittrex in the last half hour which reflected in the last accumulation spike to $3.22:



These accumulation spikes have been happening all of the over for last couple of weeks. Based on last couple of days, support is now $3. Extrapolating from the current growth rate of the past two weeks and given the accumulation we're seeing, I believe Shift is still on track to reach $4 or higher as the new support by the end of the month. My original prediction therefore remains: 3X - 4X pump with the Phantom release at the end of the month in two weeks drives price to $12-15. The new roadmap and product + marketing development milestones are expected to create a lot of hold pressure and an additional 2X over the course of January - February (4-6 weeks) could push it to $25-30.

$25 will happen in ~6-8 weeks IMO. I think that at the end of this month (within two weeks) the Phantom prototype release will make the price $12-15. I have been tracking for over the past month and the price movements have so far supported this projection well, you can read the analysis in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2429910.0

IMO this is an easy 3-4X minimum within two weeks, as the market sentiment is becoming increasingly bullish for this coin and it will deliver on the hype with the release in 16 days or less. 10X from current price will require holding until February/March, I think, but it could happen more quickly than that.

1) RE "not keeping promises" and "internal fights": It's an open-source collaboration. One of the main old devs was a jerk who created a fork to ICO the fork clone for an easy cash grab. No way to prevent someone being an asshole if they want to be. That dev is not involved with Shift anymore. This set back their release until they could recruit more devs and regain their momentum.

2) RE "trying to change the whole www with 2 developers": Shift now has at least 3-4 devs that are continuing to build off the work of the past two years. So their original promises which were delayed in Q3 have been worked toward by their whole team since then and are completely achievable now by the end of Q4.

3) RE "july controversy sending shifts to stolen accounts": I think you're confusing another issue here, are you referring to victims being compensated by the devs out of their own wallet? Because that was a good thing which showed how trustworthy the team is toward the community. If you're not referring to this then please explain.

The internal team issues which caused the missed deadlines in Q3 were entirely the result of one main dev and one minor dev being assholes and those people are no longer with the project, which has in the meantime continued its march onward to still being the first to market with a decentralized web and file hosting dApp.

I thought like you did at first glance but realized when peeling under the surface that all of the reasons the market cap was suppressed were temporary reactions to temporary causes; hence the token was massively undervalued back in early October from the perspective of a 3-month time frame when the testnet prototype would launch publicly, much less a 6-month time frame when further development would push it much higher.

It seems I was spot on given that despite the aforementioned temporary factors, i.e. that had temporarily disrupted its momentum and held back the market cap, Shift has been in a fairly robust uptrend that is clearly visible on the 1-year, 3-month, 1-month, and 1-week charts. Since early October it's gone over 4X from its low to its high, and it's on track to probably keep an accumulation trend that tops at $4-5 two weeks from now and pumps Shift to $10-15 when the testnet Phantom release happens at the end of the month.

And all of this is happening without marketing. According to their last newsletter, they have increased their team by over 30% adding marketers in the last month and real marketing is going to start in Q1 2018 on the heels of having a working prototype to market to investors. I think therefore Shift can 3-5X its early Q1 price by the end of Q1, i.e. to reach $30-50 per Shift or more. Back in early October this looked like a dark horse to me, but now all of the signs have been growing and it's becoming more obvious that this will massively break out, starting end of Q4 and continuing through end of Q1. Beginning a month ago, I've been calling out these movements pretty much spot on so far in this thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2429910

For each bad actor explanation you've projected, there is a good explanation; sharing a good explanation because I know this team and have confidence in them makes me like a "roach coming out of the woodwork"? You're either a shill for a competitor project or have a major stick up your butt. E.g.:

Regarding the developer wallet: they haven't touched it because they have had admirable frugality and restraint at the stages of the product which were not ripe for marketing. Looting the developer wallet, even for good reasons, would probably cause panic or fear of dumping if this happened before the project was mature enough. Because it is now becoming mature enough to dip into the developer wallet without causing too much FUD, to spend for marketing and other good causes, they have been working on a marketing budget.

Regarding putting out info: the last November newsletter had a lot of positive news.

Regarding using Ryver: it's a matter of preference, not a reasonable indictment to make against them.

Regarding your claim that the devs are transient: Ralf has been with the project for a long time. Goldeneye is still on it as well. They also hired a new developer from Vimeo in recent months. (And the new dev Craig may have a work contract but there is no one for Ralf to have a contract from -- I still don't understand how this accusation makes sense.)

Regarding your claim about "the smarter holders of shift dumping on the dumber holders of shift while they exit," any dumper has missed a lot of gains by doing so given that Shift crossed ATH last month and reached a new ATH this month in an uptrend that grows progressively more robust up to the present, comparing across the 1-year, 3-month, 1-month, and 1-week charts. How can you even be attempting to FUD that?

Regarding the accusation that it's "just... a medium income constant revenue generating stream being strung along," if that was the case then why would they spend money hiring a new dev from Vimeo and developing Jenga and their own custom IPFS CMS and other innovations which were discussed in the last newsletter? (This point also speaks to the fact that innovative development is happening, and so regarding your penultimate criticism, the Github isn't kept updated with completely current developments such as this for the good reason of preventing competitor copying.) This is just ridiculous, it's like we're not even talking about the same project.

It's one thing to have your doubts. Fine. I believe we'll all see for ourselves quite soon. But you're straw-manning the project and passing misinformation off as fact. That is what I'm calling out as unfair.

Updating that my predictions are so far perfectly on track: uptrend is holding and we're already at $3.40 now. So I still see a 3x from $4-5 by end of the month to $12-15 in the pump with the prototype release at that time.

I believe that Shift will 3X within the next 3-4 weeks and so 10X from now through 2018 should be a given as long as the development continues on track through the coming year. I've been posting my observations and analysis about this here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2429910.0

It's easy to join the Ryver, there's no wall against going in and asking the team questions including Ralf himself. I don't understand what you mean by a contract running out. There's no CEO or company to have a contract with, it's an open source community project (they push from the private repo to Github at infrequent intervals so that competitor copying of the most current development is avoided). The fact that you think a contract is involved shows how little you know about the project. I am strongly convinced that Ralf has stuck by this project all this time because he has the skill and grit to finish it, and it will be extremely valuable. They're in this for the long haul, not for a cash grab, which is why they have not ICO'd.

That seems quite unfair. The lead dev of Shift, Ralf, is not working on anything else as far as I know, although they collaborate with Lisk sometimes since Shift is a Lisk fork. Jan has never been part of the Shift team since he left to create his own fork clones that he ICO'd and my understanding is that the Shift team strongly disapproved of this behavior. As far as a desire for privacy is concerned, I respect that; and while I do understand their privacy may deter investment before there's proven development progress in the form of a working prototype, I believe that when the team's progress is proven with the public launch of the Phantom dApp prototype on the testnet before the end of this month, their privacy will not matter anymore: ultimately what matters is delivering on the project with something valuable.

Shift uses dPOS so delegates receive rewards for being node operators, which constitute the coin's annual inflation. Inflation is capped to 10% or less annually and if I remember correctly, the % inflation is designed to decrease over each subsequent year (e.g. currently Shift's inflation is already lower than Lisk's, despite Shift's low coin supply of less than 11.5m tokens).