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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: Periphery's Equihash POW Mining Pools Service coming soon! www.PaleAuraPools.com on: February 16, 2018, 11:26:45 AM
Yeah debating on which ones to do first atm lol

Hello everyone!

Me and my husband are working on the frontend and backend with some help from some cool people, come join and give us some suggestions.
Thanks!






Nice! Bring some coins up!!!!
Keep up the good work.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Periphery's Equihash POW Mining Pools Service coming soon! www.PaleAuraPools.com on: February 16, 2018, 10:05:38 AM
Hello everyone!

[ANN][POOL]

Me and my husband are working on the frontend and backend with some help from some cool people, come join and give us some suggestions.
Thanks!



3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax on: February 09, 2018, 06:00:32 AM
do you wanna drop me a line on discord? or send me a PM here, i like talking with people who have ideas like this, dont let the people calling things dumb discourage you, ill foreward this to some people and see what they think on the things im helping out with

Dear BTCZ community,

I saw on the message board a message about Nano ledger S integration. I first just read it and thought what a great idea and then only for 895 dollar how is this possible for so less money. After reading the proposal details I understood you want to buy ledger nano S for the development team because they don't have one. A ledger nano S costs around the 100 euro's here in Europe. Why do you need 895? And what has the development team owning a nano S have to do with integration in it's network? I really think the proposal is very misleading because it has nothing to do with integration of BTCZ to Ledger.

Greetings from Holland
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax on: February 09, 2018, 02:38:00 AM
You all dont know whats right because you all lack management experience, fix it by creating systems for people and compromise and open discussion with core-dev-moderation-community, or developers, investors and miners are going to keep leaving, that simple

Telling me whats not right, is a silly thing to do lol how would you know whats not right for me? are you in my shoes? lol no, but thanks for the "i love you" comment although the only person that i can see misses me so far is Enver and certainly nobody from the core or dev team so far lol

Since nobody wants to resolve any issues with simple how can this be avoided conversations to me i end up doing all the talking and it annoys people in the end since people honestly dont want to pay attention, all the more reason to leave imo lol appreciate the wishes if they were sentimental anyway, like my last job i do what i want which is help people hope you guys rebound from loosing full time members like me

Just to forewarn people, as time goes on this is becoming more like a centralized coin, the core/devteam has scared off many developers from joining the core or even being a part of the community itself, i'd imagine its to slow down the coin to mine it out, they don't care about you lol.

Got a few comments from my last post figured i'd make something short, happy mining everyone! Remember sharing is caring, not scaring lol.



Can you give us some examples? Who wanted to join and was scared off?

From all the EQUIHASH coins this is the only one without greedy developers. So your comment sounds like BS.

No one tried to scare someone intentionally. Just a few misunderstanding between different people. But what people do not understand is the value of “decentralization”. Let me give you an example of what happened:
1. You are a community member trying to promote/develop certain tools.
2. You have your team(that can be a team of 1 to X members)
3. You decide you want to bring some value to BTCZ by buildin tool XYZ. Because thats what you think its missing. You are a good person with good thoughts about BtCZ.
4. You decide to present XYZ tool to the community.
5. Member “Abraham” thinks that it is a shitty idea and tells you that you work for a shit-useless tool.
6. Member “Abraham its very old and has influence in the community, this means people are listening to his words.

What do you do in this kind of situations? You give up or you want to build XYZ tool to show “Abraham” he is wrong?
Well the thing is that Periphery decided to leave, but that is not the right thing to do. You people should get your heads up and prove shitheads they are wrong. (No offence Peri, you know I love you, in a non-gay way). Thats is what decentralization means: people can build a tool anyway even if it is a shit or not, or they can leave without the community to suffer). Even though we might miss you Peri, you know that decentralization means BTCz can do it without any of us. That is its power, and deep inside you know it. Thanks for all the hard work you’ve done. An remember just a small advice from a small person like me: decentralization means(among other things) that you can do whatever the fuck you want in order to make your coin moon.

Hope you are well, se you!

5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax on: February 09, 2018, 02:35:33 AM
I did in the chat have an undisclosed complaint and already got upsetness for it from the person and he no longer talks to me to prove this so, heres one of his private convos to me after i apologize for renzuit to try to get him to help out, i posted the other things that was said in the slack channel between renzuit and him already which was the discouraging attitude, if people want all the documents on all the conversations drop me a message in discord, they are really in no order and quite random cause i try to keep track of as much as i can then sort it all out and make it presentable later, anyway heres one of the convos from 1 of the complaints i had moderating

[1:34 PM] WhoNeedszZz: I think this project would be great for that

[1:34 PM] WhoNeedszZz: Good wallet support is critical for the success of a coin

[1:35 PM] WhoNeedszZz: I'd be happy to join forces
[1:36 PM] WhoNeedszZz: I am pretty opinionated on design decisions to be fair though

[1:36 PM] Periphery: same with me
[1:36 PM] Periphery: im like a huge autist that way
[1:36 PM] Periphery: but i think its just because engineering mindset
[1:36 PM] WhoNeedszZz: That's why I got so into the conversation with ren
[1:36 PM] Periphery: yeah i know
[1:36 PM] Periphery: because at first he seems like he knows things
[1:36 PM] Periphery: then he gets tired of talking
[1:36 PM] Periphery: i had this issue as soon as i started speaking with him myself
[1:36 PM] Periphery: you're not the only one lol
[1:37 PM] WhoNeedszZz: It drives me nuts how many devs totally ignore the most important part of the software development cycle - PLANNING!(edited)
[1:37 PM] Periphery: duh
[1:37 PM] Periphery: this is why i have a fucking
[1:37 PM] Periphery: JIANT chalkboard
[1:37 PM] WhoNeedszZz: haha nice
[1:37 PM] Periphery: i got it JUST for this project

[1:37 PM] WhoNeedszZz: Yeah, I could tell he doesn't know as much as he tries to portray
[1:38 PM] WhoNeedszZz: Just trying to get an explanation of the base logical flow of how a wallet works
[1:38 PM] WhoNeedszZz: Was like pulling teeth
[1:38 PM] Periphery: yup
[1:38 PM] Periphery: forget him
[1:38 PM] WhoNeedszZz: And I still don't have the answer




Just to forewarn people, as time goes on this is becoming more like a centralized coin, the core/devteam has scared off many developers from joining the core or even being a part of the community itself, i'd imagine its to slow down the coin to mine it out, they don't care about you lol.

Got a few comments from my last post figured i'd make something short, happy mining everyone! Remember sharing is caring, not scaring lol.



Can you give us some examples? Who wanted to join and was scared off?

From all the EQUIHASH coins this is the only one without greedy developers. So your comment sounds like BS.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax on: February 08, 2018, 06:56:53 PM
really? anywhere near surrey BC??

wow no way?, do you live around vancouver? most people i talk to are on the east coast, they seem a bit more uptight, did you hear BC just voted no for the pipeline and they want the PM to come back from america to deal with it lolllll

lol yeah its np, i get it all the time cause gay marriage is federally recognized in Canada which is the only reason my husband can be here xD havent really figured out the best way to make the joke back yet :p

im a dude lol and a gay one which is why i guess you think im a girl xD, i dont need to scare anyone i have a hard enough time being odd in general in the first place Tongue I like to help people out which is why i was modding in the first place, thanks :3

Just to forewarn people, this is becoming more like a centralized coin, the core/devteam has scared off many developers from joining the core or even being a part of the community itself, i'd imagine its to slow down the coin to mine it out, they don't care about you lol.

Got a few comments from my last post figured i'd make something short, happy mining everyone! Remember sharing is caring, not scaring lol.


How can core team 'scare off' anyone?  That said, coin supply is so massive I don't mind the go it slow approach.  
Considering her past posts, I wonder who's trying to scare who...
my bad, sorry, yes I assume wrongly you were a women since I remember you writing about your "husband".
even worst, I live in Canada too... have a nice day.

I'm in the West Coast Smiley


GO BTCZ!
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax on: February 08, 2018, 04:27:31 PM
wow no way?, do you live around vancouver? most people i talk to are on the east coast, they seem a bit more uptight, did you hear BC just voted no for the pipeline and they want the PM to come back from america to deal with it lolllll

lol yeah its np, i get it all the time cause gay marriage is federally recognized in Canada which is the only reason my husband can be here xD havent really figured out the best way to make the joke back yet :p

im a dude lol and a gay one which is why i guess you think im a girl xD, i dont need to scare anyone i have a hard enough time being odd in general in the first place Tongue I like to help people out which is why i was modding in the first place, thanks :3

Just to forewarn people, this is becoming more like a centralized coin, the core/devteam has scared off many developers from joining the core or even being a part of the community itself, i'd imagine its to slow down the coin to mine it out, they don't care about you lol.

Got a few comments from my last post figured i'd make something short, happy mining everyone! Remember sharing is caring, not scaring lol.


How can core team 'scare off' anyone?  That said, coin supply is so massive I don't mind the go it slow approach.  
Considering her past posts, I wonder who's trying to scare who...
my bad, sorry, yes I assume wrongly you were a women since I remember you writing about your "husband".
even worst, I live in Canada too... have a nice day.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax on: February 08, 2018, 03:15:48 PM
lol yeah its np, i get it all the time cause gay marriage is federally recognized in Canada which is the only reason my husband can be here xD havent really figured out the best way to make the joke back yet :p

im a dude lol and a gay one which is why i guess you think im a girl xD, i dont need to scare anyone i have a hard enough time being odd in general in the first place Tongue I like to help people out which is why i was modding in the first place, thanks :3

Just to forewarn people, this is becoming more like a centralized coin, the core/devteam has scared off many developers from joining the core or even being a part of the community itself, i'd imagine its to slow down the coin to mine it out, they don't care about you lol.

Got a few comments from my last post figured i'd make something short, happy mining everyone! Remember sharing is caring, not scaring lol.


How can core team 'scare off' anyone?  That said, coin supply is so massive I don't mind the go it slow approach.  
Considering her past posts, I wonder who's trying to scare who...
my bad, sorry, yes I assume wrongly you were a women since I remember you writing about your "husband".
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax on: February 08, 2018, 02:43:31 PM
simple, when provided with an issue, proof of issue, compromise and solution and all that gets discussed is personal things that are unrelated and the compromises are never even referenced at all this tends to happen, ontop of the simple fact nobody wants to talk to eachother for said compromises ontop the fact, as a upcoming dev myself not good practice and lack of management skillsets in my honest opinion, and yeah as a dude thats been mining over 5+ years myself i dont mind either which is why i have no issues with whats happening either way other than its not as advertised lol

Just to forewarn people, this is becoming more like a centralized coin, the core/devteam has scared off many developers from joining the core or even being a part of the community itself, i'd imagine its to slow down the coin to mine it out, they don't care about you lol.

Got a few comments from my last post figured i'd make something short, happy mining everyone! Remember sharing is caring, not scaring lol.


How can core team 'scare off' anyone?  That said, coin supply is so massive I don't mind the go it slow approach.  
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax on: February 08, 2018, 02:41:07 PM
im a dude lol and a gay one which is why i guess you think im a girl xD, i dont need to scare anyone i have a hard enough time being odd in general in the first place Tongue I like to help people out which is why i was modding in the first place, thanks :3

Just to forewarn people, this is becoming more like a centralized coin, the core/devteam has scared off many developers from joining the core or even being a part of the community itself, i'd imagine its to slow down the coin to mine it out, they don't care about you lol.

Got a few comments from my last post figured i'd make something short, happy mining everyone! Remember sharing is caring, not scaring lol.


How can core team 'scare off' anyone?  That said, coin supply is so massive I don't mind the go it slow approach.  
Considering her past posts, I wonder who's trying to scare who...
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax on: February 08, 2018, 01:28:27 PM
Just to forewarn people, as time goes on this is becoming more like a centralized coin, the core/devteam has scared off many developers from joining the core or even being a part of the community itself, i'd imagine its to slow down the coin to mine it out, they don't care about you lol.

Got a few comments from my last post figured i'd make something short, happy mining everyone! Remember sharing is caring, not scaring lol.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax on: January 29, 2018, 05:14:12 AM
Convos from mods, this is why im giving up modding, and helping people in crypto, people are the same wherever you go apparently


Not posted in any order, i dont care really peace out.


12:22 PM] WhoNeedszZz: I'm talking about building a BTCZ specific wallet solution that does not rely on solutions that were made for something else. If built successfully we can demonstrate it to the community. If they like it then it gets used. If not, oh well
[12:22 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> Sure… have at it :slight_smile:
[12:23 PM] WhoNeedszZz: Ha, ok
[12:23 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> Create a plan and do it
[12:23 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> just DO something
[12:23 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> I don’t want to talk about it
[12:36 PM] Periphery: i really dont like this guys attitude tbh
[12:36 PM] Periphery: if he doesnt want to talk about it why the fuck is he talking in chat
[12:36 PM] Periphery: ?
[1:08 PM] Periphery:
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[1:44 PM] Periphery:
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[3:24 PM] Periphery: [3:19 PM] rizzman1000: Dude, something to remember... even if someone says they are "leading" a project, it really means fuckall... if he wants to fork into one direction, and someone elze wants to go the other, thats fine. Ultimately it will just mean we have two options... assuming both deliver
[3:20 PM] Periphery: im not talking about that
[3:20 PM] Periphery: im talking about renzuit
[3:20 PM] Periphery: and his shitty fucking attitude
[3:20 PM] Periphery: deterring devs
[3:20 PM] Periphery: thats all
[3:20 PM] Periphery: dont pay attention to what the topics of development
[3:21 PM] Periphery: but the fucking issue atm please
[3:21 PM] rizzman1000: Yea but so what. Let him talk. Like my idea... whether or not people want to help me with it. I'm going to do it.. we just need to reiterate this when people start talking shit about peoples ideas
[3:21 PM] Periphery: no
[3:21 PM] Periphery: look
[3:22 PM] Periphery: : 12:22 PM] WhoNeedszZz: I'm talking about building a BTCZ specific wallet solution that does not rely on solutions that were made for something else. If built successfully we can demonstrate it to the community. If they like it then it gets used. If not, oh well
[12:22 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> Sure… have at it :slight_smile:
[12:23 PM] WhoNeedszZz: Ha, ok
[12:23 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> Create a plan and do it
[12:23 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> just DO something
[12:23 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> I don’t want to talk about it
[3:22 PM] Periphery: that honestly what we want coming from our dev team to people coming in?
[3:22 PM] Periphery: im talking to you as a moderator
[3:22 PM] Periphery: not a developer atm
[9:48 PM] Periphery:
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[9:48 PM] Periphery: i give up moderating not gonna work for people with a "show me the money" and we dont give a fuck about you attitude
was warned about this knew it was coming up, thought you guys might be different guess i was wrong, i hate myself so much why the fuck do i want to help people in the first place, just gets me into trouble and stresses me out cause i end up with 0 support all the time.(edited)
January 22, 2018
[1:30 AM] Periphery: whenever you have time id like you to send me back the 15k in bitcoinZ i sent for the current exchange race, and also the 40k+ in donation i sent to the donation address itself.(edited)
[1:34 AM] Periphery: id like to focus my efforts on myself and would way rather spend that money on like suppliments and shit

t1gSExX8tt2mXHVNJ1y2FMgbvGiZzFa67GX my main address there might be another idk(edited)
[1:34 AM] Periphery: getting involved was a huge mistake and i never seem to learn my lesson dont even know why i ever try to help people out in the first place, no fucking clue why i think people are professional enough to run anything themselves as far as simple decision process while i do as much work as i can, but apparently im not necessary and rizzman10000 made that pretty clear that everything i do goes un noticed, and this has happened to me at like most of my jobs when i end up wanting to work for someone or for a reason, so i removed all my posts for ideas dev requests and organization requests and scrapped all my proposals and ruleset i was making and took all my posts off bitcointalk, im going to let Jim, the new guy and my husband crack at the wallet, anyway im gonna go outside and work on cars, shits depressing, cya around(edited)
[3:07 PM] Periphery: [2:50 PM] egyptianbman: Sorry, I'm in the hospital so haven't been very active.
[2:51 PM] egyptianbman: Are you asking for your donations back? That's not how donations work...
[2:57 PM] Periphery: im done
[2:58 PM] Periphery: and other people have gotten them back so dont fucking pull that shit on me
[3:02 PM] egyptianbman: That shouldn't be the case. I'll talk to cryptorex
[3:04 PM] Periphery: dont bother
[3:04 PM] Periphery: im already in a discussion with him about it
[3:04 PM] Periphery: that was copy pasted from him
[3:04 PM] Periphery: im not working for pricks, that let people be pricks to people, that simple.
[3:05 PM] Periphery: and i WILL NOT SUPPORT pricks
[3:06 PM] Periphery: also if you feel that you need to keep my small amount of 50k, im full time sick so, i can just sit here and talk about how shitty that is, obviously. Also i switched to suprnova, no point in donating through a pool when they have over 51% right? if this is going to be the case
[3:08 PM] cryptorex: no one has gotten back donations
[3:08 PM] cryptorex: there is no way to prove they sent them is the main concern
[3:09 PM] Periphery: so is this an answer to me or what
[3:09 PM] Periphery: cause being not clear atm
[3:09 PM] Periphery: is not the right decision
[3:09 PM] cryptorex: ?
[3:09 PM] cryptorex: You said people have gotten them back
[3:09 PM] cryptorex: That is false
[3:09 PM] Periphery: i thought ukminer got them back
[3:09 PM] Periphery: no?
[3:10 PM] cryptorex: uhh
[3:10 PM] cryptorex: no
[3:10 PM] Periphery: so you're going to keep my money?
[3:10 PM] cryptorex: You donated it?
[3:11 PM] Periphery: yeah
[3:14 PM] Periphery: you guys have totally shown me how, you do things
[3:14 PM] cryptorex: Sending back donations for one person opens the flood gates to others demanding the same.  Donations are not easily verifiable either.
[3:14 PM] Periphery: so
[3:15 PM] Periphery: why are you afraid of people asking for their donations back
[3:15 PM] Periphery: if you guys are in the right atm?
[3:15 PM] Periphery: and im wrong
[3:15 PM] Periphery: btw
[3:15 PM] Periphery: this lack of tact and attention
[3:15 PM] Periphery: to a critical issue to me
[3:15 PM] Periphery: is pretty insulting
[3:16 PM] cryptorex: Last time someone asked to move the funds from one exchange race to another we said we can’t - that’s not how it works.
[3:16 PM] Periphery: let me sit here for weeks without giving me straight answers
[3:16 PM] Periphery: on how to deal with renzuit
[3:16 PM] Periphery: and now everyones calling me names
[3:16 PM] Periphery: and shit
[3:16 PM] Periphery: so yeahy
[3:17 PM] Periphery: i dont really wanna work with people that just let people be shitty to other people tos top progress
[3:17 PM] Periphery: i dont care about stopping progress or how the dev team does it
[3:17 PM] Periphery: and EVERYONE
[3:18 PM] Periphery: sucks this guys dick
[3:18 PM] Periphery: inclduing you
[3:18 PM] cryptorex: That’s fine Periphery, I’m not going to argue with your perspective, especially not now.  I’m still away due to a death in the family.
[3:18 PM] Periphery: condolences
[3:18 PM] Periphery: but you shouldve delt with this weeks ago
[3:18 PM] Periphery: right?
[3:18 PM] cryptorex: Whatever you say Periphery.
[3:18 PM] Periphery: so a "fuck you" then
[3:18 PM] Periphery: alright
[3:18 PM] Periphery: ill leave you alone
[3:19 PM] cryptorex: No - that’s your interpretation.
[3:19 PM] Periphery: no thats what Whatever means
[3:19 PM] Periphery: when you say it to someone
[3:19 PM] Periphery: think about it
[3:20 PM] Periphery: it comes off as  "i dont fucking have time for you. so im going to humor you until you leave"
[3:20 PM] Periphery: you get that right
[3:20 PM] cryptorex: I don’t have time to sit here and argue against your position, and especially with the way you decided to describe my supposed favoritism.
[3:20 PM] Periphery: see this is your problem
[3:20 PM] Periphery: now you have no moderator
[3:21 PM] Periphery: why even come on here
[3:21 PM] Periphery: if you have no time
[3:21 PM] cryptorex: Cause I don’t atm
[3:21 PM] Periphery: dude yours?
[3:21 PM] Periphery: im talking about EVERYONE
[3:21 PM] Periphery: minerhuck
[3:21 PM] cryptorex: but I will again





[10:35 AM] egyptianbman: ok, I don't have time to do this with you. I asked you to stop causing drama. I have 0 feelings towards you. I neither hate, nor love you. I have 20 plates of work to do and dealing with all these complaints is getting time consuming. It's also hurting the coin's image, with a mod causing so much drama.(edited)
[10:35 AM] Periphery: im not a mod
[10:36 AM] egyptianbman: Ok, then I'm telling you this as a non-mod, please stop causing drama or you'll be banned.
[10:36 AM] Periphery: and what you consider drama
[10:36 AM] Periphery: other people consider something else
[10:36 AM] Periphery: anyway
[10:36 AM] Periphery: stop threataning me
[10:36 AM] Periphery: please
[10:37 AM] egyptianbman: Just stop saying rude or mean things towards or about people.
[10:37 AM] Periphery: i dont
[10:37 AM] Periphery: iom trying to find out why
[10:37 AM] Periphery: people are saying ruidwe stuff
[10:37 AM] Periphery: lol
[10:37 AM] Periphery: anyway whatever
[10:37 AM] Periphery: you guys dont have time or care
[10:37 AM] egyptianbman:

[10:38 AM] Periphery: yup
[10:38 AM] Periphery: hes nuts
[10:38 AM] Periphery:
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[10:38 AM] Periphery: and if you read any convo that jhanny had with that dude
[10:38 AM] Periphery: you see this
[10:38 AM] Periphery: anyway
[10:38 AM] Periphery: im trying to leave so
[10:38 AM] Periphery: yeah
[10:40 AM] Periphery: i already suggested talking about all this stuff in voice but nobody wanted to so i give up
[10:41 AM] Periphery: anyway im out, sorry for the complaints, but you know how people are when they jump on the bandwagon and im also no longer handling any complaints anymore so this will happen i guess
[10:41 AM] Periphery: shrugs
[10:41 AM] Periphery: cya




[8:55 PM] Periphery: ....
[8:55 PM] rizzman1000: You can put it out , and osmeone else can put it out and the community by large will say who wins
[8:55 PM] Periphery: this is like pulling fucking teeth
[8:55 PM] rizzman1000: not fuck renuzit, not me, the population of new adopters
[8:56 PM] rizzman1000: Tha'ts the point I am trying to get across
[8:56 PM] Periphery: whats your point then
[8:56 PM] rizzman1000: fuck what everyone else thinks... If you see value in it, Do it!
[8:56 PM] Periphery: put it in 1 sentancve
[8:56 PM] rizzman1000: That's my poiunt
[8:56 PM] Periphery: ok so
[8:56 PM] Periphery: you just told me
[8:56 PM] rizzman1000: If you think its valuable, do it!
[8:56 PM] Periphery: that it looked shitty
[8:56 PM] rizzman1000: no I didn't.
[8:56 PM] Periphery: no?
[8:57 PM] rizzman1000: no, when did I say anything looks shitty?
[8:57 PM] rizzman1000: Wait
[8:57 PM] rizzman1000: I did say the bitcoinz website looks shitty
[8:57 PM] rizzman1000: that I remember
[8:57 PM] rizzman1000: are you making a website?
[8:57 PM] rizzman1000: if not, stay on topic
[8:58 PM] Periphery: im re reading
[8:58 PM] rizzman1000: point of the matter is as I mentioned before... If you think what your doing fixes a problem, fuck whateverone else says and do it. That's the point
[8:58 PM] Periphery: sec
[8:59 PM] Periphery: [8:49 PM] rizzman1000: That's just someone saying they aren't interested and they don't think the ideas good... and that's ok,
[8:59 PM] Periphery: so why did otis leave
[8:59 PM] rizzman1000: Not sure where your going with this
[8:59 PM] Periphery: uhm
[8:59 PM] Periphery: me and my husband are doing the GUII wallet
[9:00 PM] Periphery: and theres no documentation so were starting from scratch
[9:00 PM] rizzman1000: ok, and...?
[9:00 PM] Periphery: otis was doing it
[9:00 PM] rizzman1000: doing what?
[9:00 PM] Periphery: is there a reason... he left... ?
[9:00 PM] rizzman1000: documentation?
[9:00 PM] Periphery: no
[9:00 PM] Periphery: the GUI wallet
[9:00 PM] Periphery: you dont remember ?
[9:00 PM] Periphery: in middle of december
[9:00 PM] rizzman1000: I don't know what the motives behind that were.. nor do I really care... like you said dev's are a dime a dozen, and if they really want to contribute they will
[9:01 PM] Periphery: hm
[9:01 PM] Periphery: well basically im not gonna work on something somewhere where they think its shitty
[9:01 PM] Periphery: and where they are allowed to project their attitude because of just who they are
[9:01 PM] Periphery: in a negative way
[9:02 PM] Periphery: guess why i no longer work for people?
[9:02 PM] Periphery: cause of this very reason
[9:02 PM] Periphery: and all those buisnesses i left eventually failed
[9:02 PM] rizzman1000: I am very show me the money. Problem with the internet is the thing that happened during the 50K for donation... Everyone says they support it but in the end no one fucking shows... same shit with devs... so when I see one that is actually stepping up, I'm not gonna criticize him on being too socially abrasive
[9:02 PM] Periphery: i guess nobody just noticed the work i do
[9:02 PM] Periphery: or cares lol
[9:02 PM] rizzman1000: Dude... if thats how you really feel because you don't have anyone cheerleading you to the finishline, you should probably not
[9:03 PM] Periphery: no i dont want cheerleeding
[9:03 PM] Periphery: i want fucking just honest opinions on things
[9:03 PM] Periphery: how does anything move foreward without those
[9:03 PM] Periphery: and i go where im needed
[9:03 PM] Periphery: its that simple
[9:03 PM] rizzman1000: correct, and nobody will, because at the end of the day people are assholes and too worried about "has coin mooned  yet"
[9:03 PM] Periphery: if people think myt wallet ideas are useless and shitty in their project
[9:03 PM] Periphery: ill find a project that likes them
[9:04 PM] Periphery: and btw
[9:04 PM] Periphery: the first thing renzuit did to step on my toes was about me just being excited about having my first crypt discussion somewhere other than online
[9:04 PM] rizzman1000: so you have to ask yourself are you doing this for people, or doing it for me? ... at the end of the day, I have a sizable amount of BTCZ, so for me  I'm not going to wait for someone else to appreciate the coin, I'll do it myself, and everyone should have this mindset
[9:04 PM] Periphery: and he chose to project how he felt with his laws over me which i obviously dont give a fuck about
[9:04 PM] Periphery: so yeah i dont care about that dude
[9:05 PM] rizzman1000: And thats' fine
[9:05 PM] Periphery: dude
[9:05 PM] rizzman1000: you don't have to care about the dude, or the work he does
[9:05 PM] Periphery: you dont understand how i am
[9:05 PM] Periphery: as a bitch houseboy
[9:05 PM] Periphery: i live to work for fucking people
[9:05 PM] Periphery: its how i am
[9:05 PM] Periphery: lol
[9:05 PM] rizzman1000: Periphery....
[9:05 PM] Periphery: i enjoy it
[9:05 PM] rizzman1000: It doesnt matter how you are when your dealing with internet people... you are going to run into people that are assholes
[9:06 PM] rizzman1000: it is a 51% assurance
[9:06 PM] Periphery: yeah and i deal with them accordingly
[9:06 PM] Periphery: and it works
[9:06 PM] rizzman1000: well. nonetheless....shit like this is unfruitful
[9:06 PM] Periphery: whats untruthful
[9:06 PM] rizzman1000: this is taking time from my coding
[9:07 PM] Periphery: yeah and this issue has taken like
[9:07 PM] Periphery: a weeks worth of my time
[9:07 PM] Periphery: cause nobodys talking to me
[9:08 PM] Periphery: if people are too busy to pay attention during what i have to say
[9:08 PM] Periphery: then its time for me to move on
[9:08 PM] rizzman1000: so... to sum it up... if you are doing something and you think it has value, fuck everyone else and keep trucking... at the end of the day, when you have a finished project, the people will decide if its worthy  and has usefulness
[9:08 PM] rizzman1000: If that's what your here for man
[9:08 PM] rizzman1000: I'm here to make money
[9:08 PM] Periphery: not really
[9:08 PM] Periphery: im here to help people
[9:08 PM] rizzman1000: I gives a fuck about the rest
[9:08 PM] rizzman1000: we all want to make money
[9:08 PM] rizzman1000: so lets make some moeny
[9:08 PM] rizzman1000: fuck the bullshit
[9:08 PM] Periphery: youre talking to a different person
[9:08 PM] Periphery: so
[9:09 PM] Periphery: i set myself up to not give a fuck about money
[9:09 PM] Periphery: cause i hate it
[9:09 PM] Periphery: all im excited for is wining the crypto lottery eventually
[9:09 PM] Periphery: and it has nothing to do with anyone else
[9:09 PM] Periphery: after that im still going to do fun things and help people
[9:09 PM] Periphery: so shrugs
[9:09 PM] Periphery: i work for donation
[9:09 PM] rizzman1000: Then keep doing that!
[9:09 PM] Periphery: but i dont work when people dont want me to
[9:09 PM] rizzman1000: and stop getting butthurt when people diagree!
[9:09 PM] Periphery: uhm
[9:09 PM] rizzman1000: fuck em!
[9:09 PM] Periphery: this isnt about that
[9:10 PM] Periphery: hes not disagreeing
[9:10 PM] Periphery: hes being SHITTY
[9:10 PM] rizzman1000: fuck em!(edited)
[9:10 PM] Periphery: and you guys think its ok
[9:10 PM] Periphery: yeah but all the new people just are fine with this
[9:10 PM] Periphery: guess what
[9:10 PM] Periphery: they arent lol
[9:10 PM] rizzman1000: no, I never said its ok... I said who gives a shit
[9:10 PM] Periphery: uhm
[9:10 PM] Periphery: new people
[9:10 PM] rizzman1000: think about it
[9:10 PM] Periphery: this is why im here
[9:10 PM] Periphery: moderating
[9:11 PM] Periphery: see people dont give a fuck lol
[9:11 PM] rizzman1000: if you are a person are getting butthurt over what someone on the internet said... what kinda person does that make you
[9:11 PM] Periphery: no lol
[9:11 PM] Periphery: im talking about the facts
[9:11 PM] Periphery: you think that shits ok
[9:11 PM] Periphery: lol
[9:11 PM] Periphery: ?
[9:11 PM] rizzman1000: fuck the facts.. nobody cares about the facts... you can be a shitty person just giving the facts
[9:12 PM] Periphery: lol ok
[9:12 PM] Periphery: this is why you and me, will never be friends i guess
[9:12 PM] Periphery: ohwell
[9:13 PM] rizzman1000: trashing bitcore and totally rebuilting a product that a multimillion dollar company spent millions to perfect for a part-time community might get finished is rediculous... this is fact
[9:13 PM] Periphery: uhm
[9:13 PM] Periphery: so
[9:13 PM] rizzman1000: saying that its a bad idea... is not shitty
[9:13 PM] Periphery: you know me and my husband arent part time right
[9:13 PM] rizzman1000: the way he said it, enh maybe
[9:13 PM] rizzman1000: Yes I do, and so Am i
[9:13 PM] Periphery: and who says were even using the bitcore wallet
[9:13 PM] rizzman1000: buy you are also not reinventing the wheel
[9:13 PM] Periphery: there are many other options
[9:14 PM] rizzman1000: you are talking about adding something to something that already exists... a MAJOR difference between scrapping and building from scratch
[9:14 PM] Periphery: no
[9:14 PM] Periphery: im not lol
[9:14 PM] Periphery: did you look at this yet?
[9:14 PM] rizzman1000: Dude... the only way the android wallet exists is with Bitcore
[9:15 PM] rizzman1000: Then my understand of what your doing is incorrect. And that's fine. because at the end of the day... again... if you see value in it.. fucking go for  it!
[9:18 PM] rizzman1000: I think at the end of the day... I don't want to be involved in whatever beef you have with renuzit... the guy is doing work, and he is actually collaborating, which is more than what others have done up until now... if there are others that want to step up, I encourage that 100%, that doesnt mean I will always agree with their goal, but that too is also fine... nobody needs my or anyone elses approval to do something
[9:18 PM] Periphery:
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[9:19 PM] Periphery: i dont have a fucking beef with him
[9:19 PM] rizzman1000: I can't count how many mofo's said "Sure, I'll help out with that" and just fucking left crickets
[9:19 PM] Periphery: and im talking about his shitty attitude in chat, nothing else
[9:19 PM] Periphery: but you guys wanna talk about all sorts of other things
[9:20 PM] rizzman1000: so... in short, bring all your devs, assholes or not... the only thing required is that they actually deliver
[9:20 PM] Periphery: so
[9:20 PM] rizzman1000: otherwise I got no time for it
[9:20 PM] Periphery: no moderaton then
[9:21 PM] Periphery: yeah good thing i didnt submit that proposal to do fulltime help desk for youi guys
[9:22 PM] Periphery: prbably wouldve all voted no anyway lol
[9:22 PM] rizzman1000: This isn't bad at all, alot of those features haven't been done before, but again... show me the money!
[9:22 PM] Periphery: didnt realize all the developers were so who cares about everyone
[9:22 PM] Periphery: me me me
[9:22 PM] rizzman1000: alot of people talk
[9:23 PM] rizzman1000: that's the problem
[9:23 PM] Periphery: this is what people do yes
[9:23 PM] Periphery: why is that a problem
[9:23 PM] rizzman1000: nobody fucking  does shit
[9:23 PM] Periphery: so i dont do shit?
[9:23 PM] rizzman1000: and the few that do, start to get burned out when they hear others talk because 80% of it is bulshit
[9:23 PM] Periphery: show you the money...?
[9:23 PM] Periphery: what
[9:23 PM] Periphery: so this making all these ideas
[9:23 PM] Periphery: oraganizing
[9:23 PM] Periphery: mdoerating
[9:24 PM] Periphery: you can all do without
[9:24 PM] Periphery: ?
[9:24 PM] rizzman1000: Do you do shit? developmentwise? the fuck if I know!, I know your on here all the time just as we are, so there's that... but as for ideas... Show me the money.
[9:25 PM] Periphery: yeah
[9:25 PM] Periphery: ok
[9:25 PM] rizzman1000: ideas are cheap.. my challenge is I wanna see results
[9:25 PM] Periphery: lol...
[9:25 PM] Periphery: so im cheap
[9:25 PM] Periphery: sweet
[9:25 PM] Periphery: well find someone else like me then cause im done
[9:25 PM] rizzman1000: everyone has them
[9:25 PM] Periphery: ill move to another project tomorrow
[9:25 PM] rizzman1000: whatever dude. you internalize way too much
[9:25 PM] rizzman1000: have fun
[9:26 PM] Periphery: no you basically spelled out what you want
[9:26 PM] Periphery: which is me not here
[9:26 PM] Periphery: lol
[9:26 PM] rizzman1000: Good luck
[9:26 PM] Periphery: nothing personal about it
[9:26 PM] Periphery: its all just + or -
[9:26 PM] Periphery: im obviously not necisarry
[9:26 PM] Periphery: however you spell that
[9:27 PM] Periphery: anyway too bad your dev team has this attitude,s orry i cant work with you people

[9:30 PM] rizzman1000: That's fine. I wish you the best.
[9:30 PM] Periphery: lol, coming from a sociopath, that doesnt mean fuck all
[9:31 PM] rizzman1000: Good night Periphery
[9:31 PM] Periphery: k, dont talk to me
[9:32 PM] Periphery: if you need something send me a msg, thanks
[9:33 PM] Periphery: trying renzuit's approach, hope you enjoy
[9:34 PM] Periphery: if people think its fine why not use it right
[9:34 PM] Periphery: anyway night




[12:36 PM] Periphery: 12:22 PM] WhoNeedszZz: I'm talking about building a BTCZ specific wallet solution that does not rely on solutions that were made for something else. If built successfully we can demonstrate it to the community. If they like it then it gets used. If not, oh well
[12:22 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> Sure… have at it :slight_smile:
[12:23 PM] WhoNeedszZz: Ha, ok
[12:23 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> Create a plan and do it
[12:23 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> just DO something
[12:23 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> I don’t want to talk about it
[12:36 PM] Periphery: i really dont like this guys attitude tbh
[12:36 PM] Periphery: if he doesnt want to talk about it why the fuck is he talking in chat
[12:36 PM] Periphery: ?
[1:08 PM] Periphery:
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[1:44 PM] Periphery:
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[3:24 PM] Periphery: [3:19 PM] rizzman1000: Dude, something to remember... even if someone says they are "leading" a project, it really means fuckall... if he wants to fork into one direction, and someone elze wants to go the other, thats fine. Ultimately it will just mean we have two options... assuming both deliver
[3:20 PM] Periphery: im not talking about that
[3:20 PM] Periphery: im talking about renzuit
[3:20 PM] Periphery: and his shitty fucking attitude
[3:20 PM] Periphery: deterring devs
[3:20 PM] Periphery: thats all
[3:20 PM] Periphery: dont pay attention to what the topics of development
[3:21 PM] Periphery: but the fucking issue atm please
[3:21 PM] rizzman1000: Yea but so what. Let him talk. Like my idea... whether or not people want to help me with it. I'm going to do it.. we just need to reiterate this when people start talking shit about peoples ideas
[3:21 PM] Periphery: no
[3:21 PM] Periphery: look
[3:22 PM] Periphery: : 12:22 PM] WhoNeedszZz: I'm talking about building a BTCZ specific wallet solution that does not rely on solutions that were made for something else. If built successfully we can demonstrate it to the community. If they like it then it gets used. If not, oh well
[12:22 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> Sure… have at it :slight_smile:
[12:23 PM] WhoNeedszZz: Ha, ok
[12:23 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> Create a plan and do it
[12:23 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> just DO something
[12:23 PM] BOTFairBot: [slack] <renuzit> I don’t want to talk about it
[3:22 PM] Periphery: that honestly what we want coming from our dev team to people coming in?
[3:22 PM] Periphery: im talking to you as a moderator
[3:22 PM] Periphery: not a developer atm
[9:48 PM] Periphery:
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[9:48 PM] Periphery: i give up moderating not gonna work for people with a "show me the money" and we dont give a fuck about you attitude
was warned about this knew it was coming up, thought you guys might be different guess i was wrong, i hate myself so much why the fuck do i want to help people in the first place, just gets me into trouble and stresses me out cause i end up with 0 support all the time.(edited)
January 22, 2018
[1:30 AM] Periphery: whenever you have time id like you to send me back the 15k in bitcoinZ i sent for the current exchange race, and also the 40k+ in donation i sent to the donation address itself.(edited)
[1:34 AM] Periphery: id like to focus my efforts on myself and would way rather spend that money on like suppliments and shit

t1gSExX8tt2mXHVNJ1y2FMgbvGiZzFa67GX my main address there might be another idk(edited)
[1:34 AM] Periphery: getting involved was a huge mistake and i never seem to learn my lesson dont even know why i ever try to help people out in the first place, no fucking clue why i think people are professional enough to run anything themselves as far as simple decision process while i do as much work as i can, but apparently im not necessary and rizzman10000 made that pretty clear that everything i do goes un noticed, and this has happened to me at like most of my jobs when i end up wanting to work for someone or for a reason, so i removed all my posts for ideas dev requests and organization requests and scrapped all my proposals and ruleset i was making and took all my posts off bitcointalk, im going to let Jim, the new guy and my husband crack at the wallet, anyway im gonna go outside and work on cars, shits depressing, cya around(edited)
[3:07 PM] Periphery: [2:50 PM] egyptianbman: Sorry, I'm in the hospital so haven't been very active.
[2:51 PM] egyptianbman: Are you asking for your donations back? That's not how donations work...
[2:57 PM] Periphery: im done
[2:58 PM] Periphery: and other people have gotten them back so dont fucking pull that shit on me
[3:02 PM] egyptianbman: That shouldn't be the case. I'll talk to cryptorex
[3:04 PM] Periphery: dont bother
[3:04 PM] Periphery: im already in a discussion with him about it
[3:04 PM] Periphery: that was copy pasted from him
[3:04 PM] Periphery: im not working for pricks, that let people be pricks to people, that simple.
[3:05 PM] Periphery: and i WILL NOT SUPPORT pricks
[3:06 PM] Periphery: also if you feel that you need to keep my small amount of 50k, im full time sick so, i can just sit here and talk about how shitty that is, obviously. Also i switched to suprnova, no point in donating through a pool when they have over 51% right? if this is going to be the case
[3:08 PM] cryptorex: no one has gotten back donations
[3:08 PM] cryptorex: there is no way to prove they sent them is the main concern
[3:09 PM] Periphery: so is this an answer to me or what
[3:09 PM] Periphery: cause being not clear atm
[3:09 PM] Periphery: is not the right decision
[3:09 PM] cryptorex: ?
[3:09 PM] cryptorex: You said people have gotten them back
[3:09 PM] cryptorex: That is false
[3:09 PM] Periphery: i thought ukminer got them back
[3:09 PM] Periphery: no?
[3:10 PM] cryptorex: uhh
[3:10 PM] cryptorex: no
[3:10 PM] Periphery: so you're going to keep my money?
[3:10 PM] cryptorex: You donated it?
[3:11 PM] Periphery: yeah
[3:14 PM] Periphery: you guys have totally shown me how, you do things
[3:14 PM] cryptorex: Sending back donations for one person opens the flood gates to others demanding the same. Donations are not easily verifiable either.
[3:14 PM] Periphery: so
[3:15 PM] Periphery: why are you afraid of people asking for their donations back
[3:15 PM] Periphery: if you guys are in the right atm?
[3:15 PM] Periphery: and im wrong
[3:15 PM] Periphery: btw
[3:15 PM] Periphery: this lack of tact and attention
[3:15 PM] Periphery: to a critical issue to me
[3:15 PM] Periphery: is pretty insulting
[3:16 PM] cryptorex: Last time someone asked to move the funds from one exchange race to another we said we can’t - that’s not how it works.
[3:16 PM] Periphery: let me sit here for weeks without giving me straight answers
[3:16 PM] Periphery: on how to deal with renzuit
[3:16 PM] Periphery: and now everyones calling me names
[3:16 PM] Periphery: and shit
[3:16 PM] Periphery: so yeahy
[3:17 PM] Periphery: i dont really wanna work with people that just let people be shitty to other people tos top progress
[3:17 PM] Periphery: i dont care about stopping progress or how the dev team does it
[3:17 PM] Periphery: and EVERYONE
[3:18 PM] Periphery: sucks this guys dick
[3:18 PM] Periphery: inclduing you
[3:18 PM] cryptorex: That’s fine Periphery, I’m not going to argue with your perspective, especially not now. I’m still away due to a death in the family.
[3:18 PM] Periphery: condolences
[3:18 PM] Periphery: but you shouldve delt with this weeks ago
[3:18 PM] Periphery: right?
[3:18 PM] cryptorex: Whatever you say Periphery.
[3:18 PM] Periphery: so a "fuck you" then
[3:18 PM] Periphery: alright
[3:18 PM] Periphery: ill leave you alone
[3:19 PM] cryptorex: No - that’s your interpretation.
[3:19 PM] Periphery: no thats what Whatever means
[3:19 PM] Periphery: when you say it to someone
[3:19 PM] Periphery: think about it
[3:20 PM] Periphery: it comes off as "i dont fucking have time for you. so im going to humor you until you leave"
[3:20 PM] Periphery: you get that right
[3:20 PM] cryptorex: I don’t have time to sit here and argue against your position, and especially with the way you decided to describe my supposed favoritism.
[3:20 PM] Periphery: see this is your problem
[3:20 PM] Periphery: now you have no moderator
[3:21 PM] Periphery: why even come on here
[3:21 PM] Periphery: if you have no time
[3:21 PM] cryptorex: Cause I don’t atm
[3:21 PM] Periphery: dude yours?
[3:21 PM] Periphery: im talking about EVERYONE
[3:21 PM] Periphery: minerhuck
[3:21 PM] cryptorex: but I will again




[3:18 AM]
didnt work on him either

Faneatiku [3:18 AM]
You are right :slightly_smiling_face:
Mik
from a neutral perspective, i have gathered that the answer to the question is: Step 1: idea, Step 2: documentation/presentation; Step 3: community approval; Step 4: execution, or did i miss something?
Posted in #general
Today at 3:18 AM

renuzit [3:18 AM]
YES!

Periphery [3:18 AM]
you do?

bartekhl [3:18 AM]
MIk: there needs to be reporting
[3:18 AM]
I have some points on how to report the project to the community
[3:19 AM]
I have 8 points to be exact

Periphery [3:19 AM]
@renuzit was that a yes at me or??

bartekhl [3:19 AM]
@Mik @renuzit do you want me to send these points to you?
[3:20 AM]
we can work out it together

renuzit [3:20 AM]
Sure
[3:20 AM]
I would be more than happy to read what you propose

bartekhl [3:20 AM]
@fenatiku in point 4 - execution it needs a detailed plan what the one should do after taking a budget for 200k btcz e.x.

Periphery [3:20 AM]
@renuzit answer my question please?
[3:20 AM]
ive been asking this same thing for like
[3:20 AM]
an hour now

bartekhl [3:21 AM]
alright will write this down, thanks

renuzit [3:21 AM]
@Periphery I’ve answered your question.. like 3 times

bartekhl [3:21 AM]
let's just ignore it

NickH [3:21 AM]
The roadmap perhaps shouldn't be considered as an exclusive list of things that need to be done. If someone thinks something needs to be done, then float it in front of the community in case it is a bad idea. If a good idea, there is nothing to stop someone going off and implementing their project without it ever getting on the road map.
renuzit
Let's be honest though. There has also been a lot of talk, a lot of "ideas", and a lot of drama. If anyone truly wants to help out the coin, then I challenge someone to actually write down their ideas and get it accepted by the community instead of just talking bullshit in chat. If it's a good idea then the community will embrace it and work it. Until then, we follow the road map.
Posted in #general
Today at 1:51 AM

Mik [3:21 AM]
i was reffering to an idea that does not need any funding from community

bartekhl [3:21 AM]
this trolling machine

Periphery [3:21 AM]
@renuzit Periphery [3:18 AM]
i wanna know if you see the issue with the way you talk at people or not (edited)
[3:21 AM]
yes or no
[3:22 AM]
i know you're probably like honest
[3:22 AM]
otherwise you wouldnt have this much trouble being direct

bartekhl [3:22 AM]
@Mik ok, but we can work out the plan with points working in the case when someone uses budgeting
[3:23 AM]
I want people be paid for their work, to take responsoibility
[3:23 AM]
there is no 'free work'
[3:23 AM]
who does understand and not deny has no possibility of hidden goals

renuzit [3:23 AM]
@NickH that is a good point, but if I truly work for the community, then I will discouraging them from doing that and help us stick to the roadmap. Otherwise, I can’t guarantee they will get the resources they want or need.
[3:24 AM]
But yes, everyone is welcome to work on whatever they want to

Periphery [3:24 AM]
*shighs*
[3:24 AM]
well i guess i have my answer from you then, with you silence
[3:24 AM]
its a yes

renuzit [3:24 AM]
That’s not what I said

Periphery [3:24 AM]
you cant tell me what you said
[3:24 AM]
so whatever

bartekhl [3:24 AM]
@renuzit ignore it
[3:25 AM]
jsut focus on the things that matter

Periphery [3:25 AM]
hard to ignore a dishonest dev team lol

bartekhl [3:25 AM]
it is hard , I fell for this trolling before

Periphery [3:25 AM]
that discourages from devs being involved in the core through the way he talks

bartekhl [3:25 AM]
but it is not worth your energy

Periphery [3:25 AM]
makes me wanna mine a different coin for sure
[3:25 AM]
since my electricity is going to funding this project
[3:25 AM]
and he wants to slow it down ill go mine something else proffitable
[3:26 AM]
thats how it looks to me *shrugs*
[3:26 AM]
if im wrong tell me how

Mik [3:27 AM]
but since we area community coin, anyone can contribute without permission from devs, all is needed is community approval

Periphery [3:27 AM]
well

renuzit [3:27 AM]
Of course!

Periphery [3:27 AM]
we get that

Mik [3:27 AM]
devs are ere to stick to the roadmap, community is here to progress

Periphery [3:27 AM]
but like
[3:27 AM]
if people have questions
[3:27 AM]
from comunity dev
[3:27 AM]
to actual dev
[3:27 AM]
so they dont work on stupid shit or the wrong shit
[3:28 AM]
and someones like
[3:28 AM]
i dont wanna talk about it

renuzit [3:28 AM]
Just like in mining where you can join and leave mining a coin, the developers can come and go as the feel

Periphery [3:28 AM]
how does things go foreward?

renuzit [3:28 AM]
I’ve put a lot of work making sure this is guaranteed (edited)

Periphery [3:28 AM]
so then why dont you compromise?
[3:29 AM]
close the dev channel for yourselves
[3:29 AM]
open a community dev channel
[3:29 AM]
fixed?
[3:29 AM]
right?

Mik [3:29 AM]
There are no bad/stupid ideas, if you believe in it, do it!
Periphery
so they dont work on stupid shit or the wrong shit
Posted in #general
Today at 3:27 AM

Periphery [3:29 AM]
nono
[3:29 AM]
i mean like
[3:29 AM]
working on old tech
[3:29 AM]
dont want people to be working backwards wasting time
[3:29 AM]
etc
[3:29 AM]
or working on stuff that doesnt matter
[3:29 AM]
this is why i posted the thing in brave

Periphery [3:30 AM]
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Periphery [3:30 AM]
basically that would clean all this up
[3:30 AM]
this big issue

NickH [3:30 AM]
Someone can have a great idea, have great vision but not be able to project that to other people. it may not appear on the roadmap, but that can be seen as a great shame in hindsight. If your vision is great, implement it and show everyone. Just in general. (edited)

Periphery [3:30 AM]
but everyones been hating on me SO MUCH
[3:30 AM]
things are like fucking molasses atm in my seat
[3:30 AM]
lol
[3:31 AM]
anyway theres the fix to this problem

Manu [3:31 AM]
@Periphery Why do not you create your own development team and work on what you think is important right now?

Periphery [3:31 AM]
tada
[3:31 AM]
@manu can

Manu [3:31 AM]
go

Periphery [3:31 AM]
i was actually
[3:31 AM]
but still doesnt fix further like
[3:31 AM]
miscommunication
[3:31 AM]
my solution does
[3:31 AM]
by opening a simple 2 rooms and set up a github
[3:31 AM]
bam
[3:31 AM]
but i had this answer like 2 weeks ago and none of the core team wanted to talk to renzuit for me
[3:31 AM]
so
[3:32 AM]
yeah
[3:32 AM]
they al lthink im being personal and i thought people would figure out that im not like that by now but w/e
[3:32 AM]
so im now just community orientated considering the lack of support being moderator
[3:33 AM]
so naturally
[3:33 AM]
i have questions for my miing future
[3:33 AM]
mining*

Manu [3:34 AM]
I do not want to enter into a discussion, but I think you have too much free time (edited)

Periphery [3:34 AM]
and im sure like a fuckload of other people do also, cause this situation seems to be reoccurring and kinda needs to stop imo

NickH [3:34 AM]
Ahh my head is hurting. Too much talk. I need to get things done.

Periphery [3:34 AM]
@manu i was the only person full time on the projec tthanks
[3:34 AM]
and i have cancer
[3:34 AM]
so yeah i have tons of free time

Manu [3:35 AM]
I'm sorry about your cancer, but you can spend all that time doing what you think is best for the community

Periphery [3:35 AM]
@NickH yeah im glad im at an understanding, if no actions are going to be made to cator to the community that way i obviously have my yes answer to the question ive been asking for an hour and half to the dev team
[3:36 AM]
and even then, still a yess cause i cant imagine hes going to change the way he talks just for regular people lol
[3:36 AM]
well alot of people do @Jhanny did it in 2 seconds lol

Manu [3:36 AM]
It is not good that we spend the day criticizing the work of other devs, each one does what he can and thinks is better for btcz

Periphery [3:36 AM]
i havent critizsed any work at all
[3:36 AM]
dont see where you got that from

NickH [3:40 AM]
I need to get two sets of accounts, no three done in the next week, I have to organise a shipping container today, deploy a computer system in the next couple of days, think about a housing project and maybe help plan it, re-stock a shop and have friends staying with me shortly, and do some work to help BTCz. So I think i'll stay away from the forum for most of today.

Mik [3:41 AM]
i need to do some food shopping, almost as busy as you @NickH

Periphery [3:41 AM]
i just got a deep fryer :x
[3:41 AM]
although the only thing i eat is like chicken nuggets and fries
[3:42 AM]
i decided i need some fat to gain weight quicker so i thought it was a good idea xDD

Mik [3:42 AM]
im following a healthy eating plan, lots of fresh veg, lean protein and some rice with sweet chilli sauce :smile:

Periphery [3:43 AM]
yeah me too
[3:43 AM]
i have to anyway
[3:43 AM]
i dont have.. any vegetables though c.c
[3:43 AM]
oh wait
[3:44 AM]
i bought carrots
[3:44 AM]
but im having trouble like eating them lol
[3:44 AM]
by the time i get tothem they are all like roots and stuff :s

Mik [3:44 AM]
lol

Periphery [3:44 AM]
im trying to get some kinda fiber + vegetable + proteion
[3:44 AM]
cause the pills i take do not fucking work
[3:44 AM]
they just go through me if i dont do that
[3:44 AM]
and they make me die for no reason in turn xD
[3:44 AM]
its like why take this

Mik [3:45 AM]
i have a reat trick where i add some kidney and sweet beans to rice to increase fiber and protein while reducing carbs, yummy

Periphery [3:45 AM]
kidney?
[3:45 AM]
like your kidney?

Mik [3:45 AM]
kidney beans?

Periphery [3:45 AM]
oh
[3:45 AM]
ive nver had one
[3:45 AM]
xD
[3:45 AM]
or sweet beans?
[3:45 AM]
dunno what they are
[3:45 AM]
or even beans
[3:45 AM]
forgot that food exsisted tbh xDDD lol

[telegram] <aisa7988> APP [3:46 AM]
Any news guys?

Mik [3:46 AM]
i think they are called butter beans actually not sweet
[3:47 AM]
its all to do with my gf having a new year resolution, so now im the cook and dietitian
[3:48 AM]
everything has to be healthy, yummy and portion controlled
[3:48 AM]
i should really say tasty instead of yummy, thats what kids say lol

Periphery [3:48 AM]
im gonna butter your bread
[3:48 AM]
with butter beans
[3:48 AM]
D:D:DD:
[3:49 AM]
the only dieticians i see
[3:49 AM]
are pediactrics ones
[3:50 AM]
because i cant talk to doctors properly they see im too smart to quick and they either shut me down call me insane and dangerous or they give up cause they cant make money off me and just wanna know whats up with the spectacle in front of them and say wow you're really smart and walks me over to a computer to give me more pieces of the puzzle in my head
[3:51 AM]
the dietician i have is super nice :heart: shes the only reason i tried and actually like steak now
[3:51 AM]
ive only eaten it like twice in the last year but still crazy crazy from me hating the sight and touch of anything like that

Mik [3:52 AM]
yea, im not a big fan of steak, and my gf doesnt like beef in general

Periphery [3:56 AM]
well try
[3:56 AM]
the keg
[3:56 AM]
and get the
[3:56 AM]
fuck
[3:56 AM]
whats it calle
[3:56 AM]
uhmmm
[3:56 AM]
damnit
[3:56 AM]
my husband is sleeping so idk what it was

[telegram] <neca> APP [3:56 AM]
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Periphery [3:56 AM]
but i tried the fillet mignan or whatever from the cactus club
[3:56 AM]
fucking gross
[3:56 AM]
i like the real red steak
[3:56 AM]
from the keg instead
[3:57 AM]
whatever that one was
[3:57 AM]
as like a strip or w/e
[4:01 AM]
tenderloin?
[4:01 AM]
idk

Mik [4:02 AM]
ea i heard that before, but im much more into slow cooked meat joints that just melt in your mouth :smile:

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Periphery [4:03 AM]
@Mik so you can eat like
[4:03 AM]
chicken thighs?
[4:03 AM]
or prefer them over chicken breast

llbrunoll bitcoinzfreedom.hopto.org [4:03 AM]
(Neca! Thanks for your kind support!!)

[telegram] <Henrique> APP [4:03 AM]
Morning guys

Periphery [4:03 AM]
hey
[4:04 AM]
brb gotta check on doggo

llbrunoll bitcoinzfreedom.hopto.org [4:04 AM]
hey @Periphery! good morning!
[4:05 AM]
@Periphery Always Vigilant and So active!

[telegram] <Henrique> APP [4:05 AM]
Any news?HuhHuh

Periphery [4:05 AM]
@llbrunoll bitcoinzfreedom.hopto.org maybe for some people
[4:05 AM]
lol

Mik [4:06 AM]
the news!!!!!!!!!
[4:06 AM]
you know HuhHuh?? is the same as ?

Periphery [4:10 AM]
we have a news channel?
[4:10 AM]
lol

[telegram] <Marc> APP [4:11 AM]
We also have a dutch btcz channel hahaha 4 people in it :neutral_face:

Periphery [4:12 AM]
im not allowed in there, im not dutch
[4:12 AM]
although im on your guys' time
[4:12 AM]
for whatver reason

[telegram] <Marc> APP [4:13 AM]
Haha i own the channel youre welcome! Haha

Periphery [4:13 AM]
i find i always get along with dutch people
[4:13 AM]
they usually have an engineering mindset which i love

[telegram] <Marc> APP [4:13 AM]
Haha yes

Periphery [4:13 AM]
all the people that owned buisnesses that i worked for all dutch dudes
[4:14 AM]
and millwrites/machinists

[telegram] <Marc> APP [4:14 AM]
Hahahhaha

Periphery [4:16 AM]
and involved in some kinda chocolate
[4:16 AM]
stuff
[4:16 AM]
xD
[4:17 AM]
chocolate factorys
[4:17 AM]
make so much money

[telegram] <Marc> APP [4:17 AM]
Yes its a hype again...

Periphery [4:17 AM]
the company we worked for moved to the US though >:
[4:17 AM]
cause trump

[telegram] <Marc> APP [4:24 AM]
Lol to the us, most were leaving cause trump right haha

[discord] <kaki> APP [4:38 AM]
!stats

btczbot APP [4:38 AM]
Difficulty: *160,036*
Block Height: *78,233*
Price: *0.00000106 BTC ($0.012)*
24hr Vol (USD): *$59,702.100*
Market Cap: *$11,608,118.000*
Supply: *978,300,120 BTCZ*
Network Hashrate: *8.29 Msol/s*

[discord] <Yukkitatsu> APP [4:42 AM]
:joy:
[4:42 AM]
:peach:

Faneatiku [4:45 AM]
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Posted in #general
Today at 4:03 AM

llbrunoll bitcoinzfreedom.hopto.org [4:45 AM]
@Faneatiku (I just love this guy!)

Manu [4:46 AM]
it is becoming more difficult to follow the conversations, I think we would all appreciate that to talk about topics not related to btcz the #random channel is used :flushed:
[4:47 AM]
thanks all

Faneatiku [4:47 AM]
@Manu it will be harder every day. More people joining, more chat.
[4:48 AM]
It will be hard to keep #general channel clean :smile:

[discord] <kaki> APP [4:48 AM]
A question on powerconsumption: I roughly calcutated that the BTCZ miners consume 2250 Killowatt (calculated at 4W/sol), at a price of 0.2$ /Kwh this is 2250 *0.2 * 24 =10800$/day. With a tradingvolume of 100.000$/day, that means 10% of the daily trading volume?? Is my reasoning wrong here? And if so, will this % drop if the coin gets bigger?

Manu [4:48 AM]
sure yes, but we can all help a little if we use the corresponding channels :nerd_face:
[4:49 AM]
#food for example
[4:49 AM]
:face_with_rolling_eyes:

[discord] <cristeaapp> APP [4:49 AM]
!value 45000

btczbot APP [4:49 AM]
Value of *45,000.00000000 BTCZ*:
- BTC: *0.04770000*
- USD: *$541.953*

Konstantin [4:49 AM]
https://upcoin.com
[4:49 AM]
Can I try this new exchange?
[4:50 AM]
!value 206000

btczbot APP [4:50 AM]
Value of *206,000.00000000 BTCZ*:
- BTC: *0.21836000*
- USD: *$2,480.940*

Konstantin [4:51 AM]
Hey guys!
[4:51 AM]
https://upcoin.com
[4:52 AM]
how about this exchange? who can write to them?

NickH [4:52 AM]
Hello @Konstantin That looks interesting. Are you working with the exchange?

Periphery [4:52 AM]
@marc dude
[4:52 AM]
our canadian website
[4:52 AM]
was literally like ddossed with people wanting to move to canada from the US
[4:53 AM]
for immigration lmao

Enver [4:53 AM]
@Konstantin  do you have a contac mail  ?
[4:53 AM]
From upcoin

[telegram] <Konstantin> APP [4:54 AM]
No, just registered there. the first registered users $ 500 as a gift on commission.

Enver [4:55 AM]
Ok find an contact mail and come back
[4:55 AM]
; )

Konstantin [4:55 AM]
I have not written anything yet.

Enver [4:55 AM]
I could not find  a way to contact them    last time i lookd

Konstantin [4:56 AM]
I have a bad English !! try it yourself
[4:56 AM]
:joy:

[telegram] <Konstantin> APP [4:57 AM]
OK. I'll look for
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