Aronbarku, your first and only post here on Bitcointalk and it's to accuse a site of being a scam for allegedly not paying you what you allegedly won. We have no record of you writing to us unless you are that one player whose first email threatened to do just this. And in that case, no, we will not be blackmailed with threats of accusing us as scammers on any forum.

Did we have problems? Of course we did. Problems I might add, the good folks here warned us about when we first approached this forum with the opening of our site. Problems which we took some time to analyze and take care of before we paid out the bonus amounts that were properly won in the spirit of our offer. Will we pay players that make every attempt to skirt any of our offers, bonuses, or promotions? No. We had several players that while looking at their activity, you could just feel the intent to defraud the system. Those very players accused us of being a scam on the outset. Were generally impolite and used the word "scam" loosely. Yes, they were immediately banned.

In the case of our dear poster Aronbarku (assuming he is who we think he is), instead of doing what any honest and decent player who would have nothing to fear would do, which is to write an email and ask about their withdrawal, he decided that opening a second account and starting a post about us being a scam was the way to go. And uhm, no.

We were able to somewhat identify around 20 players who we believe came from this forum, played honestly and won the bonus. Those players were paid on the first of July. Below is a list of the bitcoin transaction numbers which were paid out to that we believe came from this forum.

TX id	Address	Value
f1512b45aeebc43a4c5fc9d51f333a418a7fc325c44f2af43b84059c9bdfbfd9 f1512b45aeebc43a4c5fc9d51f333a418a7fc325c44f2af43b84059c9bdfbfd9 f1512b45aeebc43a4c5fc9d51f333a418a7fc325c44f2af43b84059c9bdfbfd9 f1512b45aeebc43a4c5fc9d51f333a418a7fc325c44f2af43b84059c9bdfbfd9 f1512b45aeebc43a4c5fc9d51f333a418a7fc325c44f2af43b84059c9bdfbfd9 f1512b45aeebc43a4c5fc9d51f333a418a7fc325c44f2af43b84059c9bdfbfd9 f1512b45aeebc43a4c5fc9d51f333a418a7fc325c44f2af43b84059c9bdfbfd9 f1512b45aeebc43a4c5fc9d51f333a418a7fc325c44f2af43b84059c9bdfbfd9 f1512b45aeebc43a4c5fc9d51f333a418a7fc325c44f2af43b84059c9bdfbfd9 f1512b45aeebc43a4c5fc9d51f333a418a7fc325c44f2af43b84059c9bdfbfd9 b8d9155f2514e9e1e3b0c9859bb63d498071f336cf8d20b33f76b0d03cdf9d60 b8d9155f2514e9e1e3b0c9859bb63d498071f336cf8d20b33f76b0d03cdf9d60 b8d9155f2514e9e1e3b0c9859bb63d498071f336cf8d20b33f76b0d03cdf9d60 b8d9155f2514e9e1e3b0c9859bb63d498071f336cf8d20b33f76b0d03cdf9d60 b8d9155f2514e9e1e3b0c9859bb63d498071f336cf8d20b33f76b0d03cdf9d60 b7b8f54a6a1d91c5b149a34cac42e5d5b55a8b5008c944cfecfd334ac1aea4d0 81a94fc542371501c196a9702277ee6bc856fb75593e1c3021eb454742c513c3 73dfe6cde88fdfbffb45bfaaa58c68127d36d9369279010dc5d5e90cfe84e4f1 714f0501391bdbdee3a39b319ec91ff819fe057bb231c25cc801bfe63ab2977c 6da8522a644e9ba69925b6350d45820dd264155d907f16203cdbeae0857c4043 63caa65d6fac25cff35afd59d1ca02d2d5dd50700935346cc5c4444bb8f945b3 3ace3dde8222ae4695aa1b14f973b1754877f3d6d80142a7d0f1ec1294558d2d	16jQVgwZDdVJc3vM1pjqREuHsmkg7JfgmH 18qQjfyVnjHgSSbqYGWNcBNBzQHF3A2odb 19eaPZrkTj8WjLafqANCHMNQiKgoQdnZc2 1CWmaULL1GgGxJoUV6L4379ZobrHmnULum 1FZscY4v9gS2maK3UJvMN7zkr8EA5UZELV 1GFaRMFnRZiBPSYbrDALRDitgVcvKpPz7k 1LxhBoxavPZ5XqvHXG8DYRraHgs4mt6SjM 1PkTfNYUCS6m9XEVbxXYnh7fGikHRTuys5 31h66VEQ2mPq6rbzk7KnpcCiCrEGaE7UZV 38yuRqw7MSEc83kysjG2Ma3JNsyzSt7Jc3 1ucyUSPWiKWzZ4mbFuTYSmnFAaUCtnMWZ 1CyGhMkJ6aS1oe5P1C3vTmVS9JokB21qfb 1G8yfk8sp1o45jsegBnBx5oAHCdfWeMfjG 1K9pEJUZ5rj4C4PoqMPLmujcfq53o1YBLf 1PpaX2Qj98B8wFSnEAriw3ViatTVb6v6HG 3DWxSPmSpP6NCBajXkvSRGMLbnqKyNqsLJ 14fcGEr7ZPLh9QDsFEnNgWL7kXDbsfUKvQ 1CqHbWj6qr8Dqdyv1gWizdnnmguWrW8Y4E 3L3bEAofGqYvwyDqtBJMri9VYBZHEcHDFF 1EBwDhUEXwNqVrpWD2QzBkqKFvmgoiAMdn 1QJ9cnUmqMHWGvFffALs72XBYvoKppVVVS 15LpYAcwDq1dT63cLDYT32bMoVCFvvNpzb	0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011 0.0011

If by any chance you are one of the players that came from this forum and are not on this list, it doesn't mean you were not paid, it simply means we did not detect you as coming from this forum.

As for Aronbarku, it may be a little late now, but for future reference, there is a link in the very top menu of most sites that provide a way to contact support. We offer a ticket system which is really easy to use and we also monitor it. It would be great if you were to use it, and yes, even copy and paste our replies in the conversation so that we can air this out and reply responsibly. Though I doubt that you ever even considered writing to us concerning your fears or you would have already pasted any proof you had here.

Did we drop the ball? Of course we did. We took a step back and fixed the issues we thought contributed to the problems we faced. Why were we quiet? That may be the biggest ball we dropped, simply put, we didn't think anything we would say would be worth anything until the issues were taken care of and everybody had been paid. To those who genuinely were distressed during the crisis time, we apologize. We certainly did not mean to disappoint and we hope getting paid is at least a step in the right direction.

Please check your bitcoin addresses and contact us if you have any questions.

I want to thank you for doing a great 30 second review of our site. Very helpful.

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Yes, I've read about what happened to duckdice. And I insist, it's all a matter of not handling things properly. I started working in online casinos in late 1999. You know 888casino today? Well, back then, they were known as CasinoOnline, and they had a scandal related to bonuses worth about $250k. They never paid those players, claiming bonus abuse. The scandal eventually quieted down and they went on to sponsor those famous tattoos in boxing I'm sure you've heard about. They handled it badly and went a couple years with red flags. But eventually made it huge. Duckdice will too if they do it right. Not making the players happy is not the way to go about it. But you can't make everybody happy, impossible. But you can make things just, and right.

I also once saw a casino where a player broke their bank. The owner called him up and they came to a payment arrangement which allowed the casino to continue and the player to collect. This was a $400k win. My point is that every situation can be fixed, it takes the will of both parties to achieve that. But it mostly takes the will of the casino to ensure that the player is tended to. Sometimes, it just takes the player being offered unhindered contact to upper management to make a huge difference in how things play out. After all, we're all just people. It's not hard, communication is always key.

As far as bonuses go, and from the research we've done on dice sites, there are no experienced operators that know the bonus structures that also know how to run the numbers. It's like they are pulling bonus structures out of their asses and no wonder they get bit, the numbers have to match. One of the very first things we built was a game simulator, so we could run millions of spins under different conditions and situations to see how the bonus structure and the actual game behaved. We have run billions of hands on our game, and I can tell you that yes, we may get wiped out by some lucky players, but we have no intention of going away if god forbid that ever happened, we will make every attempt to remain in business, and succeed. At least as long as I'm around.

I should mention also that the owners have been around about the same length of time as me, and we have many years of combined experience. i can't be sure, but to me, personally, this seems like a project that has a real good chance of success. Here's hoping that I'm right.

Hi rijaljun, the mobile site is available, please have a look and give us your opinions. We'd love some feedback!

You provide no mathematical basis for this statement. Not even generally. Not even anecdotal. I'm going to assume that what you're talking about is some sites who have tried giving out bonuses have failed miserably and then reneged on paying out the bonuses once their asses are handed to them because they failed to properly do the math. Players will naturally call it a scam and they would be correct in assuming that the site should bear those losses with class. Instead, they look for ways to blame the player for their losses instead of admitting they didn't do math.

I don't think you really understand the phrase "Provably Fair". This just means that the spins or the choosing of the numbers can be proven to be fair through an independent means because the method of obtaining these numbers is transparent, and that players don't have to rely on the site being honest. It has no other bearing on any game as the probabilities for rolling one set of numbers is the same as rolling any other set of numbers. If a site does not offer bonuses and gives the excuse that being "Provably Fair" is the reason, I offer that the real reason is, they have no idea how to run the numbers.

To make some very simple math here. Say a 1000 satoshi deposit. Times 50 times requirement = 50000 satoshis worth of total bets. The game has a 2% and not a 1% house edge. So 50000 times 2% = 1000 satoshis, which gives the house an expected total win of 1000 satoshis. A 50% bonus returns 500 satoshis to the player. So yeah, we saw no reason to make the requirements higher than what is mathematically possible considering the odds of a player reaching it are 50% in the long run of course. I should also mention that these figures apply to millions of spins and not the few hundred you might be thinking about. Meaning a house gambles on the long game whilst a player is gambling on the short one.

Will there be variations on this math? Of course there will. The percentage between wins and losses in short runs can cause deviations that some people may see as huge. An example is that a player has a run of wins and accumulates a bigger bankroll and is able to reach the requirement with much more than he deposited, collect his bonus and withdraw. Casinos deal with this all the time. And if the casino only had one client and this one client got lucky and hit a lucky run, and lucky again to know when to quit, then yeah, it's a win for the player and what may be considered a huge loss for the casino. What many people don't take into account is that for every player that runs into such a lucky streak, you have ten that don't, just a random number to indicate that winners account for a very small percentage of the overall action on any casino floor. Hell, there is very little mathematical deviation from a dice game and any online slot machine.

A new site is very vulnerable during it's initial opening because a few players can exact huge winnings in a very short time. This is the reason why funding is important in the beginning for any gaming endeavor. The 50% bonus is not a gimmick, or a scam, it just means that the house is actually operating on half of the expected deposits. It also simply means it will need to attract twice the players in order to have the same profits that it would have if there were no bonus.

And actually, limiting the bonus to about the equivalent of €50 is a very conservative bonus plan, as it is meant to limit losses in the initial opening stages of the project. It also encourages maximum €100 deposits as past that amount, you don't get a bonus. Not limiting the bonuses is in reality a very risky move that might put a house in dangerous territory were a few players to hit lucky streaks which are very likely in the short term. The scam is usually never in the game, it is always based on the house's inability to come up with the funds to pay the outliers who can come in at the wrong time and bankrupt the house.

Reeldice is well funded. But we're still taking a conservative approach to the launch. Which is also why we reserve the right, as any house, to limit the deposit amounts and may or may not accept larger deposits. No, we won't be looking for whales for the time being. We encourage players to gamble responsibly, and we also take our own advice.

This is a fair statement. What is unfair is calling it a scam without providing any reason for doing so. BTW, of course it's empty now, it just launched. But I don't ever remember seeing a gambling site launch full of players. That takes time.

Thank you Luck,
Everyone on this project is pretty much on the same page. We all know that we're going to have problems to solve. We're also aware that how we go about solving them is what is going to make or break the business. Admitting to a mistake can be brutal. But we pretty much all think that admitting to one, and then making an honest effort to fix it is worth more in the long run than to try and evade the responsibility. A site can recover from pretty much anything if it handles it properly.

Will we make mistakes? Of course we will. But we'll also own them and work on fixing it rather than playing the blame game.

Thank you. Pretty much all our guys are very aware that we're building this product so that people actually enjoy it. Management has consistently been drilling this into everyone's head since the first day of hiring. This is the main reason why we brought the site to you in what some may consider to be terrible shape. We all know that even though it's tough to listen to criticism, the only way to actually get it right is to listen to criticism. Even bad criticism is helpful if you take a step back and analyze it objectively. Maybe your FAQ needs rewording, maybe the message you're trying to get across is not understandable. There many reasons that prevent people from liking a site.
My experience has shown that taking it on the chin early will help you avoid problems later.

Thank you!

The gambling industry in general does not need to concern themselves with competition, or being huge.
Most times, it is enough to attract a certain number of players and this is usually enough to keep a site earning healthy profits.
Some past famous sites, as an example, UltimateBet, the poker site closed in 2012, were making in excess of 40 million per month on
deposits alone.

I'm going to answer this personally and based on my own experience. You would be surprised by how many gambling sites make huge amounts of money.
In the past, I have seen small niche casino sites for example, make hundreds of thousands of dollars per month with very few registered players. As well,
some of the bigger sites are raking in 10 figures each month. 100 bitcoins at today's prices is about $800,000 US, not a big float for a well travelled site.

Crypto, what do you mean by "adjust UI can't play without navigating the page."?

And may I add that comments like yours really make all this work worthwhile. We really appreciate it. This coming from everyone involved in the project. Your comment was shared by everyone in the office. Thank you, thank you very much, your words mean more than you know.

Hi, 100 Satoshis is the minimum because the game pays out in decimals. Paying out 1.96 on a 10 Satoshi bet is impossible unless we add more zeros to the Satoshi.
100 is the mathematically correct minimum for the game. 100 Satoshis is the equivalent of 0.0072 cents Euros now. 0.0082 in USD.

My apologies, but this specific game requires the 100 Satoshis minimum, as explained to me by the tech guys.

Thank you very much. This site is for the players, so it's only natural that we listen and make every attempt to give players what they want. Once again, thank you.

When you're right, you're right. We do not ask for KYC because the amounts that we are dealing with are small. As well, we are not in agreement with taking personally identifying information from people without a very valid reason. Our general policy will always be to avoid collecting KYC information unless our security team feels there may be foul play involved in a transaction.

Thank you for the heads up. Today, we will be reviewing the terms and conditions and making sure that these explanations are visible and clearly stated. Please keep the comments coming.

Hi Crypto,
For some reason, earlier, the system failed to enforce the minimum withdrawal amount. That error you are receiving is the correct behavior. Because this error was a rather simple error, the site manager has decided to allow your withdrawal to proceed. You will be receiving payment for the 0.0076915 during the day today.

For your next showers, make sure you exceed the 0.00137500 withdrawal minimum.

First thing I'd like to do is thank everyone for all your suggestions and opinions. You guys gave everyone in our team that extra boost of confidence with your very generous comments. So without further ado, I'd like to tell you guys what we have been doing since this post first hit, and what has happened during this time.

Because of all of your insistence on the mobile version, I was able to convince the owners to prioritize the development and am happy to say that it is ready and we are now waiting for your comments. We had to take the site offline for a few days in order to upgrade all the changes that, thanks to you guys, I was able to push through with high priority. Because, well, you know, having all these comments really helped me argue for a huge change in priorities.

1- Mobile Version is ready
2- We've added a Game History Search that is as extensive as you'd like to make it.
3- We beat our designer with a pretty big stick and had him redo some of the things that you guys most complained about. I think we've achieved a better look and feel now.
4- We've added a Tour in order to allow new players to understand the game better. We're only making it available on the PC version for now, the guys are working on the mobile version.
5- We've added sounds! Dorky sounds if you ask me, but sounds nonetheless. We also made it so the sounds are OFF by default. They have to be turned on if you want to hear them.
    The button to turn on the sounds are located just above the chat and to the left.
6- The site will be translated into Japanese and Chinese in the next few weeks. If anyone has suggestions for other languages, please feel free to discuss.
7- We decided to take the site out of BETA, specifically because what made us keep it in beta were some of the above points. So we're declaring it ready for prime time now.

After having said all of this, I want to once again thank you guys for the wonderful and warm welcome you gave us. We hope to continue improving on the site as we head into the future.
We have slot machines in the works, and maybe even blackjack and multi-player poker that we are looking to add in the near future.

Now here's a question for you guys. Affiliate Program or Player Referral Program? The general consensus around here is that it is better to always reward the players. We'll keep a keen
eye on your comments about this.

Once again, thank you, thank you.

Hi, the €50 is an example. But any amount deposited receives a 50% bonus. The reason I used €50 is because that is the maximum bonus awarded. So, deposit €50 -- get €25, €60 -- €30. Basically, deposits of over €100 are discouraged. This solves several problems, it serves as an incentive for players to pace themselves and not deposit more than they should. Which is good for everyone in the beginning.

We are very aware that trust is earned. Our strategy is to grow organically. Everyone likes explosive growth, we have a long term vision in place. By all means, everyone take your time. That is the reason for the showers, so people can come in and try the game and experiment. Obviously, we want people making deposits, but we also want everyone to feel safe when making them. In the mean time, everyone's opinion is valuable to us so please keep them coming. Good or bad, the good ones make us happy, the bad ones tell us which direction we need to go.

We're waiting for feedback too! We're working on pretty much every suggestion in this thread. We expect the mobile version to be in production by mid next week. Have made some adjustments to the color scheme as per some complaints, suggestions, and will continue to monitor thia board for anything else that we can use to make the site better. We appreciate all the support.

I agree. Though I have also seen large projects with very strong backing fail. Just as an example, Calvin was able to build his empire with $25,000 seed money. He also started in a pretty crowded market. The normal misconception is that the market is not big enough. But when the US passed the UIGEA in 2006, and Pokerstars had to exit the US, 10 million (Pokerstars) players lost their ability to play poker. Basically, this tells you that no one site will ever corner the gaming market. And any site, really only needs a few thousand players to be reasonably profitable. If the owners don't start living off of the player funds, it's pretty easy to develop a steady business operation. Gambling operations are very similar to banks, internal overspending is usually what kills them. And not losses. Gambling sites rarely take losses. Fortunately, the owners of Reel Dice have the funds to see it through to profitability. They have enough combined experience in the industry to ensure it can grow. Personally, and I started in the gaming industry in 1999, I like their chances. We can talk about the bonus as an example if you are interested.

The deposit is open in our development servers, of course for testing. The production server loads the production settings. We have to manually turn off deposits in the production site. Every time we update the specific area that contains the deposit, even on a small update, we have to remember to make sure it is turned off. Nobody thought to turn it off. The person who should have thought of it has received the standard 25 lashes. She's sorry. But we're still keeping an eye on her. We did make some changes to the settings structure and it should not happen again. No deposits were attempted or received. So we did not have to refund any BTC.