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I still own 101 LTC-ATF.B2 contracts on btct.co. Any chance I can get my money back for those? Or are they worthless now?
I paid out full face value on them by dividend days ago - check your dividend history. You'll have a dividend there of .01 BTC each. I did it by dividend rather than buyback to save you (and me) the transaction fee. Understood. Thanks.
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I still own 101 LTC-ATF.B2 contracts on btct.co. Any chance I can get my money back for those? Or are they worthless now?
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I still have 573 BTC-BONDs but now trading is frozen and I can't internally transfer to the issuer to get my money back.
What am I supposed to do?
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Hi,
I'm looking to start a non-profit "Journal of crypto-finance" which would publish technical papers on crypto-currencies, from various perspectives:
- economics - quantitative finance - legal issues - information technology - cryptography
If anyone is interested in submitting papers (for the first issue, I think papers that are already published on your website/blog is fine, as long as it's not too old) or in reviewing submitted articles in your area of expertise, please let me know.
when would be the first publication? Basically, whenever I end up with about 4 or 5 submitted articles... If you're asking this because you would like to submit an article and you want to know the timeline that you have, think of it this way: even if you don't finish the paper by the first issue, it'll be published in the second issue. Or alternatively you can let me know how much time you need, and if it's a reasonable amount I can withhold the first issue's publication until then. I am asking because I plan to write my masters thesis which will be completed in June of 2014. So I will submit after then. Nice. May I ask what the thesis is about? Just curious
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This is a good idea ... I think you should include Satoshi's whitepaper as the first (foundation) article in your inaugural issue ... it hasn't been published in another journal afaik, except on the web obviously.
I agree with the above. Regarding your journal, what exists as far as certifications (does it need to be?), is there a place where the journal can be peer reviewed for academia? How do we get it into Google Scholar as a citation source? What other printed/online journals of this kind already exist, that we as a community should help try and get the attention of for marketing/pr purposes? Somebody suggested we eventually (I think we need to get going with at least one issue first) get it included in http://cabells.com/review.aspx so that university researchers could publish in it and have it count toward tenure. But that's later down the road. I'm not aware of any other crypto-currencies related technical publications -- everything that exists seems to be more "pop magazine" style. But do let me know if anybody is aware of anything else.
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Hi,
I'm looking to start a non-profit "Journal of crypto-finance" which would publish technical papers on crypto-currencies, from various perspectives:
- economics - quantitative finance - legal issues - information technology - cryptography
If anyone is interested in submitting papers (for the first issue, I think papers that are already published on your website/blog is fine, as long as it's not too old) or in reviewing submitted articles in your area of expertise, please let me know.
I really like this idea. When do you plan to have a blog /website for it? When I have the first issue ready for publication. I'm planning for the url to be crypto-finance.com/journal/ (but it's not set up right now).
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Hi,
I'm looking to start a non-profit "Journal of crypto-finance" which would publish technical papers on crypto-currencies, from various perspectives:
- economics - quantitative finance - legal issues - information technology - cryptography
If anyone is interested in submitting papers (for the first issue, I think papers that are already published on your website/blog is fine, as long as it's not too old) or in reviewing submitted articles in your area of expertise, please let me know.
when would be the first publication? Basically, whenever I end up with about 4 or 5 submitted articles... If you're asking this because you would like to submit an article and you want to know the timeline that you have, think of it this way: even if you don't finish the paper by the first issue, it'll be published in the second issue. Or alternatively you can let me know how much time you need, and if it's a reasonable amount I can withhold the first issue's publication until then.
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Hi,
I'm looking to start a non-profit "Journal of crypto-finance" which would publish technical papers on crypto-currencies, from various perspectives:
- economics - quantitative finance - legal issues - information technology - cryptography
If anyone is interested in submitting papers (for the first issue, I think papers that are already published on your website/blog is fine, as long as it's not too old) or in reviewing submitted articles in your area of expertise, please let me know.
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Very interesting, thanks for your work. Most of the math is beyond my skills, hence someone else has to check.
One question though: How is the difficulty of 77,000,000 calculated at icbit.se? With the latest difficulty increase of about 10% it has to rise ~29% per jump for the next 5 times until September 16. This is far beyond the numbers that are discussed on the forums currently...
I have no clue. The futures market on that exchange decided it... they may very well be wrong. And in case it wasn't clear, the idea is that the hedge I discuss in my article will be profiting even if they're wrong. i.e. whether DMS.SELLING pricing is wrong (in terms of expected difficulty) or these futures contracts' pricing is wrong, profit is made.
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I wrote a first draft of an article explaining what I believe to be an arbitrage situation with DMS.SELLING and mining difficulty futures on icbit.se (hence my previous questions about the cashflow of DMS.SELLING). http://www.crypto-finance.com/difficulty_arbitrage.pdfI'm hoping that financially/mathematically skilled people can let me know about any mistakes. I hope you guys enjoy the read. One problem is that it will remain a theoretical arbitrage rather than a practical one. For it to be useful in practice you'd have to rely on the market correctly pricing SELLING at the settlement on icbit.se. A second issue is that if you assume the icbit.se projected difficulty rise is correct then you could almost certainly make significantly more money by just buying PURCHASE, splitting it and selling MINING - as their projection is a LOT worse than the one the market appears to be using in its current valuation. I haven't, however, looked at icbit - and it may well be that their projection is just what they're using when selling futures - and so is nowhere near what even they believe (but rather a projection sufficiently high that they're confident of profit). That's in the same way that if you go to a bookie and they offer you an even money bet they do NOT believe you'll win half the time. Regarding the first issue: that is totally correct. I mention it in the conclusion of this paper. It makes it more of a "statistical arbitrage" than a strictly risk-free one. If the market is irrational about it`s valuation of DMS.SELLING, then there may be unexpected losses. Regarding the second issue: that is the fact with hedging in general. The idea is that you sacrifice profit to reduce risk, or eliminate a particular source of risk (in this case, error in the estimation of difficulty on September 16th). By not hedging, I would essentially be making a bet that the futures contracts are correctly priced. I could also take the position that the futures contracts are wrong, and DMS.SELLING prices are correct, and instead short the futures... so why one over the other? I'm (personally) not willing to make any of those 2 bets, and would rather pay a little more to set up a hedge that "guarantees" (barring issue #1) profit, albeit a smaller one. Also, these futures contracts are quite cheap, so I don't really mind.
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I wrote a first draft of an article explaining what I believe to be an arbitrage situation with DMS.SELLING and mining difficulty futures on icbit.se (hence my previous questions about the cashflow of DMS.SELLING). http://www.crypto-finance.com/difficulty_arbitrage.pdfI'm hoping that financially/mathematically skilled people can let me know about any mistakes. I hope you guys enjoy the read. I didn't read the paper in detail, but I am curious why you chose DMS.SELLING instead of DMS.MINING (or TAT.VIRTURALMINE, or any other PMB for that matter). SELLING is effectively a short position and it seems to me that using MINING would result in a more straightforward analysis. I guess the choice depends on which expected difficulty is higher. If the difficulty expected by the futures market were lower than the difficulty expected by DMS, you would sell the futures and buy MINING. In addition, since P = M + S, and S >> M, a change in the difficulty will have a more profound effect on the price of MINING. I'm not sure if I understand your comment. But to be able to perform this hedge with DMS.MINING, I would have to be able to short it. I don't see how this hedge could work with a long position in DMS.MINING? DMS.MINING loses money if the difficulty goes up to the currently set level on icbit.se, hence I don't see any possible arbitrage scenario with DMS.MINING. But maybe I'm not seeing what you mean. But you're correct (I think -- didn't do the math) that if the predicted difficulty were lower than the current DMS.MINING valuation, then I would buy DMS.MINING.
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Very interesting, thanks for your work. Most of the math is beyond my skills, hence someone else has to check.
One question though: How is the difficulty of 77,000,000 calculated at icbit.se? With the latest difficulty increase of about 10% it has to rise ~29% per jump for the next 5 times until September 16. This is far beyond the numbers that are discussed on the forums currently...
I have no clue. The futures market on that exchange decided it... they may very well be wrong.
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I wrote a first draft of an article explaining what I believe to be an arbitrage situation with DMS.SELLING and mining difficulty futures on icbit.se (hence my previous questions about the cashflow of DMS.SELLING). http://www.crypto-finance.com/difficulty_arbitrage.pdfI'm hoping that financially/mathematically skilled people can let me know about any mistakes. I hope you guys enjoy the read.
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Sold 150 Swapped 0 Total 150 Price 0.054412 Total 8.1618 Less Fee 8.1454764 Man Fee 0.244364292
BTC Balance (BTC-TC) 961.23784813 12500 LTC-ATF.B1 125.00000000 TOTAL ASSETS 1,086.23784813 Outstanding MINING 20608 Outstanding SELLING 20608 Outstanding PURCHASE 351 Effective Units 20959 Block reward 25 Difficulty 19,339,258 Hashes per MINING 5000000 Daily Dividend 0.00013002 50 days (Min Liquid) 0.00650111 100 days (Forced Close) 0.01300222 365 days (Buyback) 0.04745810 405 days (IPO) 0.05265898 400 days (Post SELLING div) 0.05200887 410 days (Pre SELLING div) 0.05330910 NAV Post MINING Div 1,083.51271315 NAV/U Post MINING Div 0.05169678 Days Dividend Post Div 397.60 SELLING Dividend - NAV Post SELLING Div 1,083.51271315 NAV/U Post Selling Div 0.05169678 PURCHASE selling price 0.05428161 PURCHASE buy-back price 0.05066284
Regarding the NAV/U, am I right in thinking that the only things that can affect it are: a) dividends from LTC-ATF.B1 (positively only, this cannot subtract from the BTC balance) b) paying out DMS.MINING dividends (subtracts from it) c) paying out DMS.SELLING dividends (subtracts from it) Just trying to make sure I understand the cashflow correctly...
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I'm surprised people are still so bullish on SELLING when difficulty is currently scheduled for a measly 0.6% increase, which is far below the threshold required for selling to receive a dividend.
Most difficulty predictions are based on the average hashrate for the period since the last adjustment. For most of that timeperiod, ASICMiner has been running with significantly less hashing power and they've only recently recovered. Consequently, the average hashrate since the last adjustment is relatively low and will rise if there are no other hashrate-drops. Alright that's a pretty good point so I redid some calculations: After ASICMiner recovered, total network power is at 146.13 TH/s At last difficulty readjustment, total network power was at 138.43 TH/s If we ignore the period over the last day and a half where total network power was hovering between 120-130 TH/s and just suppose it was at 146.13 the entire time, then we come up with a difficulty increase of 5.7%, which would receive a dividend of .0029 BTC/Share or so. (Using numbers from the previous day: TotalAssets/(EffectiveUnits*(Dividend*.943)) = 423.7108705177327560934408247899 (Days of dividends remaining) (DaysRemaining-400) *(EffectiveUnits*(Dividend*.943)) = 23.7108705177327 * 2.55136776774 = 60.495150784 (BTC to be paid out in dividends to SELLING) 60.495150784/EffectiveUnits = 60.495150784/20809 = 0.00290716 BTC/share of DMS.SELLING paid out in dividends Using infinite series calculations supposing difficulty readjusts every 12 days (CurrentDividend * 12 /(1-DifficultyIncrease)), DMS.MINING will pay out a total of .0312 if difficulty increases 5% each time .0208 if difficulty increases 7.5% each time .0156 if difficulty increases 10% each time .0078 if difficulty increases 20% each time How do you calculate "TotalAssets" (which I assume means net asset value)? EDIT: Ignore me, I just saw Deprived balance sheet post... Is "EffectiveUnits" the number of shares outstanding, or the number of shares issued?
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"Okay, lets not start sucking each other's dick just yet." -- The Wolf, "Pulp fiction"
In the meantime, let's actually build the Bitcoin economy please.
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There's this thing called Litecoin...
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I wonder if OP realizes the irony of being pro-Bitcoin AND of being in favor or more taxes/government regulation, at the same time.
If he does - this might be the best trolling we've yet soon on bitcointalk.org. I vote troll Voting troll might be overestimating the average person's intelligence. I vote idiot.
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