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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Anyone heard of Firstcoin? on: November 14, 2018, 06:18:29 PM
Dear FirstCoin Club member,

It is with a heavy heart and strong regret that I come back to you with a message I did not want to send.
After the best of intentions and hundreds of hours of work and effort to try to build something that would have a chance of paying back the money we all lost in the First Coin project, I have reached a very sombre conclusion.
That, despite their promises, the former owners have no interest in assisting me to make that happen.
This leaves me no choice but to gave up and inform members how we been a subject of scam.
However, in the course of my journey of trying to make sense of the events of the last several months, I have come to learn a lot more about what actually happened.
I also feel it is my duty to share this with you so you can also see what appears to be the truth behind the lies and the greed.

Total Money Taken

According to the data until 13 Feb 2018 the original founders Mr Gyorgy Peresztegi-Nagy , Gabor Kisbenedek and bella kisbenedek made over $245m in sales of Firstcoin. This figure is derived from the following reports generated by the FirstCoin Club:

Total activated packages

Starter 37794
Basic 24448
Networker 25778
Business 20680
Trader 7372
Pro-Trader 3870
Pool 6153
VIP 3448.

Out of the $245m, approximately $146 million was paid back in commissions and mining rewards and overheads. Therefore the net profit made appears to be in the region of 98 million dollars.


Illegal Price Manipulation

More worryingly, it appears we have been scammed by the owners using what can only be described as ‘an invisible hand’ to continually change the satoshi-FRST This is something that is only available on a few exchanges such as LiveCoin and Yobit. They illegally manipulated the price, perpetuated a blatant Blockchain Fraud using the Firstcoin Club. Gabor Kisbenedek and his IT partner Daniel Kormendi together with Heisenberg used an ‘invisible hand’ on the public exchanges to trick you into thinking the price and value were higher than it really was.

Blockchain Fraud

If you recall, from December 2017 to Feb 2018 all withdrawals from the first coin club were blocked by the owners. The reason given for this was that they were implementing KYC and 2FA as part of industry compliance. While it is true that this technical upgrade was being done, it appears that during this time, the owners were illegally bypassing the blockchain and reselling the same coins that members believed they were holding. To explain this more, when a member bought coins from the exchange, that money was taken by the owners who then transferred the coins in a legitimate transaction. However, when the members then transferred their coins from the exchange and into the club wallets to purchase a package, the coins did not actually go into a secure ‘member wallet’ but instead went back to the owners to resell. The club software then created an entry that showed in your back-office as if the coins were there but this was simply a ledger and not reflective of the actual coins that were then sold to other members. In essence, we were left with ‘fake-coins’ that did not exist. This is another reason why the ‘circulating supply’ never changed from October and one of the reasons it appears that the coin removed from CoinMarketCap and later delisted from the LiveCoin exchange.

Missing $28m from LiveCoin

I had many meeting with Mr Gyorgy Peresztegi-Nagy to solve the issue, at the beginning, he was cooperative with me but always he changed his mind after talking to his partners. It has been revealed that at the time FirstCoin was delisted from the LiveCoin, the exchange was holding approximately $28m in sales revenue. Livecoin themselves have since confirmed that $14m has been realised to the solicitors representing a group of members. Mr Gyorgy Peresztegi-Nagy believed that the LDM management (present JAAG management) Mr Josip Bosnic CEO, Mr. Ghefari Dulapandan CIO, Mr. Andras Szekely CTO, Mr. Adrian Maximilian Necsoiu CMO walked away with S14m. Mr Nagy said he cannot make any firm claims however, some people have clearly become rich overnight.

Mr Nagy mentioned many time that a gentleman name Zoltan Toth is helping Gabor to make his entire move. I don’t know the truth who he was working for but I meet Mr Nagy via Mr Toth when I took over the firstcoin projects.

Uphill Battle I No Longer Think We Can Win

When I took over Firstcoin, I was 1000% sincere in my intention to use it as a platform to bring back value to us, the members. They promised me full funding and handover the paulownia plantation contract. They gave me 15BTC and part gift coin at the beginning to start building the club and the project. I spent all the fund to create the new platform and the club, I have invested a lot of my own time effort and resources over the last few months and one of the reasons I took this on with that belief, was that the owners promised me funding for the new project. At that time I also believed they had an interest in helping the members recover their loss. Fast forward a few short months later and not only have they never fulfilled their promises, but with the information I have now uncovered, it appears they were simply interested in looking for a new ‘front-person’ with which to divert the attention from themselves and use as a scapegoat. This would allow them to walk away with the $98 million they initially made.

I am aware there are several pending lawsuits against the former owners (both civil and criminal) and many people have expressed a strong desire to locate them and the former LDM.

If you wish to report the crime to INTERPOL you can visit to your own country National Central Bureau (NCB) office and report it.

For further information, see the profile page for the relevant member country.

https://www.interpol.int/Contact-INTERPOL

https://www.interpol.int/Member-countries/World

For further information, all the above-mentioned gang members are Hungarian citizen and the firstcoin project used to run under the company name of “Dynamic Global Marketing Ltd” registered address: Al Marjan island 550, Ras Al Khaimah, United Arab Emirates.

If you wish you can send your crime report to Hungary and Dubai Interpol team for further investigation, it’s a free service, you don’t have to pay for reporting the crime.

Best & Sincere Regards

Mohammed Kibria
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone heard of Firstcoin? on: July 06, 2018, 12:54:56 PM
WARNING

Firstcoin ex-leaders founded the JAAG Coin: http://jaagcoin.org/#team
Szekely Andras participated other SCAM, name Kairos.

Other leaders, ex-marketing director Molnar Gergely David and Istvan Seres founded the Now Coin Game: https://nowcoingame.com/. Whiet paper: https://nowcoingame.com/NowCoin-White-Paper.pdf
Istvan Seres participated in the Corion Coin, which has fallen. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/corion/

Istvan Seres and Pereszteghi Nagy Gyorgy (Firstcoin founder) was the owner/director the COIN MARKETING LTD. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10944148/officers


3  Other / Archival / Re: AltCoin discussion on: April 08, 2018, 11:42:35 PM
$0,05 FRST price = Full Goodbye Zone
Yes this is shitcoin... This is cheating and scam.
Pls everyone everywhere report them to the authority
4  Other / Archival / Re: AltCoin discussion on: February 21, 2018, 11:34:22 PM
Simplifying the Livecoin message = double entry bookkeeping.

1. Firstcoinproject
2. Firstcoinclub

This is cheating.
5  Other / Archival / Re: AltCoin discussion on: February 19, 2018, 01:41:57 PM
Where the money?

CEO in 2016: Gabor Kisbenedek - https://www.facebook.com/kisbenedek.gabor

Support in 2016: Molnár Gergely Dávid https://www.facebook.com/M0GEDA

Marketing Directo
r  in 2016: Árpád Bernula facebook.com/profile.php?id=100014161925637


Master Distributor - joined february 2017. february: Alexandru Saiu https://www.facebook.com/saiu.alexandru

Are they taxing after the income? Smiley
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone heard of Firstcoin? on: February 16, 2018, 11:19:41 PM
Created 14.02.2018 12:44

Dear clients, deposit/withdrawal for FRST has been closed due to permanent hard forks. We credit clients with transactions which aren’t exist anymore, we will not continue to do it.

There is one more reason, which we forwarded to developer, since we’re not eligible to disclose sensitive information.

Source: http://www.livecoin.net/en/news/view/607
7  Other / Archival / Re: AltCoin discussion on: February 16, 2018, 11:12:19 PM
Created 14.02.2018 12:44

Dear clients, deposit/withdrawal for FRST has been closed due to permanent hard forks. We credit clients with transactions which aren’t exist anymore, we will not continue to do it.

There is one more reason, which we forwarded to developer, since we’re not eligible to disclose sensitive information.

Source: http://www.livecoin.net/en/news/view/607
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone heard of Firstcoin? on: February 01, 2018, 01:07:41 PM
Frangipani FRST end is NOW!

Where is the credibility? You left the sinking ship!
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: (ANN) FIRSTCOIN on: February 01, 2018, 12:55:51 PM
Frangipani FRST end is NOW!

Where is the credibility? You left the sinking ship!
10  Other / Archival / Re: AltCoin discussion on: December 25, 2017, 11:02:47 PM
 FIRSTCOIN MODEL IS VERY SIMPLE, It's a SCAM and the end is coming Cheesy

PLS tell me:
- Where the ATM?
- Why change the blockchain?
- Where are the many coin the old blockchain?
- Where the real project?

Just say one thing that works Cheesy


 FIRSTCOIN MODEL IS VERY SIMPLE,
Let’s see where is the scam? And how this
Cryptocurrency community based affect the “ Real cryptocurrency “
FirstCoin with his business model educate more then 200.000 people about cryptocurrency.
To buy FirstCoin you buy it like any other cryptocurrency ( FROM PUBLIC EXCHANGE), First the member are trained about Bitcoin, how to buy Bitcoin and then on the exchange( Livecoin or Yobit) they buy FirstCoins.
( Till here people learner how to buy/sell Cryptocurrency)
Secound step:
After buying FirstCoin a person have 2 options:
1. To keep his coins on the exchange and sell/buy ( do  trading)
Many people bought on the exchange and keep the coins there( I was one of them) I bought at 2$ and I sold at 10$( 5 times Profit)
2. If you send your FirstCoins in the wallet that they provide in the CLUB then your coins will automatically will be blocked for 6 months, after 6 months your coins will un unlocked and you will be free to transfer them on any wallet( exchange, personal wallet, online wallet, windows wallet etc) YOU DONT BUY ANYTHING, YOU DONT SPEND YOUR COINS
In this 6 months when you keep you coins in the club, becouse you help the project to grow the company share some benefits with you.
1. They share with you,FirstCoins from the prmined coins( a fix amount, depends how many coins You locked in the club)
2. The Profit generate buy the ATM network will be shared with All the club members ( based on how many coins they keep in the club)
3. They invest in real projects (startups, environmental projects( tree plantation) that generate profit after a while and the same they share the profit with the club members
4. They invest in a ICO and they share the ICO tokens with the club members who keep the coins in the
Club)

After 6 months you are free to do whatever you want with your coins, if you keep you coins for another 6 months in the club you get the benefits from the company, if not you are just a trader and that’s all.

Where do you see a scam here? How Can a real coin based on sharing economy model( Uber) can be a scam ?


I like this project and and start to buy more and more Firscoins becouse a coin who is backed up with real things and sharing the profit with me, this can not be bad .... check UBER MODEL
11  Other / Archival / Re: AltCoin discussion on: December 13, 2017, 09:38:09 PM
PLS only one working ATM location... or anyone working the ecoshare program...
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone heard of Firstcoin? on: November 24, 2017, 07:55:18 PM
No Buyer No Business  Grin

Crash is coming... Days... Weeks... Months... but is coming...
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone heard of Firstcoin? on: November 18, 2017, 10:51:53 PM
What do they use it for firstcoin?
Every project coming soon...
FVPP (Firstcoin Value Protection Program) collapses when there are more sales than buying and the firstcoin loses its value.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone heard of Firstcoin? on: November 17, 2017, 07:57:51 PM
i didnt see that it is falling...tell me when. (dont count during fork when all atcoins were bleeding). About smartcontracts,  you have atm fee, cellphone paying, plane tickets buying... about ecoshares,you have big paulowinia tree plants (paulowinia is tree that has fastest growing and is valuable for wood industry) etc... next smartcontracts will be announced in Thailand meeting (hope that after meating value will be moooooning)...
look in club...you have link at ANN Firstcoin theme

Where can I find the ATM that works?
Where can I find the Plane tickets or cellphone?
comig soon... Smiley

and the Paulowinia project is a bullshit. https://www.paulownia-firstcoin.com/ This is not Firtscoin's property, this is rebrand product and coming soon. Cheesy
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone heard of Firstcoin? on: November 17, 2017, 07:41:03 PM
Nice thinking. Except that it is pyramid. If you dig little deaper you'll see that bonuses arent paid by pyramid. Money is made with ecoshares, smartcontacts, and premining.

Ecoshares? Smartcontacts? Premining? Please tell one of these which exists in a reality.

All premined coins are owned by firstcoin.club.

When people take out their money, the exchange rate start to fall.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: FirstCoin (FRST) Review Legit or Scam on: November 17, 2017, 07:32:55 PM
This is the scam coin and they created summer of 2016 in Hungary.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Should i invest to FirstCoin or not? on: November 15, 2017, 07:50:40 PM
Where the money?

CEO: https://www.facebook.com/kisbenedek.gabor
Support: https://www.facebook.com/M0GEDA
Marketing Director: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100014161925637
TOP Distributor: https://www.facebook.com/saiu.alexandru

!!!!!!!!!!!!
FIRSTCOIN CLUB RESERVES THE RIGHT TO MAKE CHANGES – IN PART OR WHOLE – TO, OR TERMINATE THE WEBSITE, ITS PAGES AT ANY TIME WITHOUT NOTIFICATION.

YOU ARE AWARE OF, ACCEPT, AND CONSENT THAT THESE CONDITIONS BETWEEN YOU AND WWW.FIRSTCOIN.CLUB (FIRSTCOIN CLUB) HAVE CREATED A LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT, AND BY USING WWW.FIRSTCOIN.CLUB YOU INDICATE THAT YOU HAVE ACCEPTED THIS CONTRACT.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: FirstCoin (FRST) Review Legit or Scam on: November 15, 2017, 05:48:26 PM
Where the money?

CEO: https://www.facebook.com/kisbenedek.gabor
Support: https://www.facebook.com/M0GEDA
Marketing Director: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100014161925637
TOP Distributor: https://www.facebook.com/saiu.alexandru

!!!!!!!!!!!!
FIRSTCOIN CLUB RESERVES THE RIGHT TO MAKE CHANGES – IN PART OR WHOLE – TO, OR TERMINATE THE WEBSITE, ITS PAGES AT ANY TIME WITHOUT NOTIFICATION.

YOU ARE AWARE OF, ACCEPT, AND CONSENT THAT THESE CONDITIONS BETWEEN YOU AND WWW.FIRSTCOIN.CLUB (FIRSTCOIN CLUB) HAVE CREATED A LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT, AND BY USING WWW.FIRSTCOIN.CLUB YOU INDICATE THAT YOU HAVE ACCEPTED THIS CONTRACT.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone heard of Firstcoin? on: November 15, 2017, 05:42:46 PM
Where the money?

CEO: https://www.facebook.com/kisbenedek.gabor
Support: https://www.facebook.com/M0GEDA
Marketing Director: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100014161925637
TOP Distributor: https://www.facebook.com/saiu.alexandru
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