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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure on: November 22, 2017, 05:42:45 PM

Hi envion,

Thanks very much for answering all my questions. I appreciate you reading them properly and answering everything fully.

I look forward to seeing the audit and then coming on board from Day One. Very exciting.

Thanks again,

KaiBosh

2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure on: November 19, 2017, 10:59:48 AM
It looks as though my questions were overlooked.

Envion would you care to address these please? Many thanks.




Good evening envion,

Thank you for taking the time to answer most of my questions, very useful. Please understand that if something SEEMS too good to be true, it usually is, so I have a couple more questions I need to be addressed before I can invest - and obviously with this rate of return I REALLY want to invest - I would appreciate your thoughts on the following:


1) The discounted token purchase price is US$0.70 - but the dividends will be paid in Ethereum. You do not know what the exchange rate from USD to Eth will be on December 1st, and certainly have no idea what the exchange rate will be each week from the end of January when dividends begin. You estimate 161% but when Eth changes in value against the dollar, this return could be far higher, or far lower. If my token holding entitles me to X number of ETH per week - and it's the same number of ETH each week - the value of this return is completely dependent upon the value of ETH at the time. For example if I invest $10,000 you anticipate a return of $16,100 in Year One, but you're paying in Eth which could be worth any amount.

How can you calculate what the rate of return will be?


2) You have only tested one MMU, in a warehouse in Berlin, with a reduced number of processors inside. Deployed MMUs will be in direct sunlight, at 100 degrees Farenheit, or zero degrees in snow, with rain, desert sand, dust, salty sea air, at very high or very low humidity, varying altitudes and air pressure, levels of pollution etc.

How do you know MMUs will perform OK in these conditions without testing?


3) Why is your prototype dashboard only showing a simulation? Where is the real data from actual testing?


4) You will be running Proprietary Operations and Third Party Operations. POs will pay 100% of revenues to token holders. TPOs will pay 35% of revenues to token holders.

What is the benefit of TPOs? Why not run all MMUs as POs?


5) The ICO closes end of December. Dividends begin end of January. This gives you ONE MONTH to clear funds, source components, contract out the manufacture of MMUs, find premises for assembly, purchase and transport containers and components to the factory, find staff and build the MMUs. Then you need to find suitable locations, negotiate and sign contracts with power suppliers, transport the completed MMUs to these locations around the world, test, configure them, complete diagnostics, remedy errors and solve problems which will occur and then begin mining currency and arrange for dividends from these to be paid. All in one month.

How is this possible?


If these questions are satisfied, then I look forward to visiting your operation in Berlin in a couple of weeks and will bring my wallet Smiley


Many thanks,

KaiBosh
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure on: November 17, 2017, 01:05:00 AM

Good evening envion,

Thank you for taking the time to answer most of my questions, very useful. Please understand that if something SEEMS too good to be true, it usually is, so I have a couple more questions I need to be addressed before I can invest - and obviously with this rate of return I REALLY want to invest - I would appreciate your thoughts on the following:


1) The discounted token purchase price is US$0.70 - but the dividends will be paid in Ethereum. You do not know what the exchange rate from USD to Eth will be on December 1st, and certainly have no idea what the exchange rate will be each week from the end of January when dividends begin. You estimate 161% but when Eth changes in value against the dollar, this return could be far higher, or far lower. If my token holding entitles me to X number of ETH per week - and it's the same number of ETH each week - the value of this return is completely dependent upon the value of ETH at the time. For example if I invest $10,000 you anticipate a return of $16,100 in Year One, but you're paying in Eth which could be worth any amount.

How can you calculate what the rate of return will be?


2) You have only tested one MMU, in a warehouse in Berlin, with a reduced number of processors inside. Deployed MMUs will be in direct sunlight, at 100 degrees Farenheit, or zero degrees in snow, with rain, desert sand, dust, salty sea air, at very high or very low humidity, varying altitudes and air pressure, levels of pollution etc.

How do you know MMUs will perform OK in these conditions without testing?


3) Why is your prototype dashboard only showing a simulation? Where is the real data from actual testing?


4) You will be running Proprietary Operations and Third Party Operations. POs will pay 100% of revenues to token holders. TPOs will pay 35% of revenues to token holders.

What is the benefit of TPOs? Why not run all MMUs as POs?


5) The ICO closes end of December. Dividends begin end of January. This gives you ONE MONTH to clear funds, source components, contract out the manufacture of MMUs, find premises for assembly, purchase and transport containers and components to the factory, find staff and build the MMUs. Then you need to find suitable locations, negotiate and sign contracts with power suppliers, transport the completed MMUs to these locations around the world, test, configure them, complete diagnostics, remedy errors and solve problems which will occur and then begin mining currency and arrange for dividends from these to be paid. All in one month.

How is this possible?


If these questions are satisfied, then I look forward to visiting your operation in Berlin in a couple of weeks and will bring my wallet Smiley


Many thanks,

KaiBosh
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure on: November 15, 2017, 10:29:04 PM
Good evening envion,

Firstly, congratulations for your hard work and accomplishments so far; this is certainly an interesting idea with potentially great returns for investors, and also very positive environmental benefits.

Congratulations also for your patience when dealing with the less polite/sane questions on this forum.

I have read your white paper but have some more questions I hope you can address.

1) Can you confirm you have only created and tested a single MMU so far, and this contains far fewer processors than your intended final product? Does this mean that your next few MMUs will basically still be prototypes? What design challenges and required alterations do you envisage when tested at full capacity, which will obviously require far greater cooling? Can you say how long testing will take before you are happy to deploy full MMUs in the field?

2) Will your published team members be working solely on this project full time, or will they work on other projects at the same time? Do they have ownership of or executive positions within companies that will be working with envion? Can you please tell me how much of the company is owned by the published team, and how many other people are involved and how much of the company they own? Are there other founders whose identities are not being published? If so, why is this?

3) I am having trouble finding references or reputable financial commentators giving opinions on your project. I realise this may be because it is a newly formed (or newly-revealed) company. Do you happen to have links to reviews or opinion pieces from independent sources? Any particular write-ups you are pleased with, or reviews you are not happy about?

4) There is little detail available regarding the financial structure of deployed MMUs. Am I right in saying you will be leasing the MMUs to third party companies, who will be paying your company 35% of the MMU's profits? Can you explain why you would give away 65% of the spoils of your units rather than own them 100%? Would the lease income be included in the profits calculated for token holders?

5) When will the first monthly dividends be paid out?

6) The dividends paid to token holders: how will this be calculated? A hypothetical example: on month 1, ETH is worth US$300 and envion pays me 1 ETH for my token holding. In month 2, ETH is worth $150. Will my dividend be 1 ETH or 2 ETH?

I have more questions but will leave it there for now.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Kind regards,

KaiBosh
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