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1  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Entangled Chains for Scalability on: January 22, 2018, 08:30:15 AM
With sharding each chain gets less hashing power (for PoW) or less stake (for PoS), and hence easier to attack..

But can they now? I'm not sure we have a problem that needs solving.
2  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Entangled Chains for Scalability on: January 22, 2018, 08:23:44 AM
Ya especially for sharded chains where each chain has smaller set of miner/validators..

But this is an effective way to harden data structure so miners can't play dirty tricks with chains easily.
3  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Entangled Chains for Scalability on: January 09, 2018, 11:19:03 AM
Just wondering whether similar proposals have been discussed..

The idea has some similarity with side-chain and sharding, but there are differences. The following figure shows the basic structure of the "Entangled Chains". Each block header has two hash pointers, one pointing to the previous block in the same chain, the other points to the tailing block in the longest branch of the "neighboring chain". The chains can grow in parallel so it has higher throughput than a single chain. The entangled chain concept also bears some similarity with IOTA, but the hash pointers in our proposal are more structured, i.e. the hash point of a block on chain i can only points to the blocks on the same chain, or a block on chain (i + 1 mod N), where N is the total number of chains. Also different from many other sidechain and sharding proposals, all the entangled chains share the same token.



The cross chain hash pointers help improve the security of the system (against double spending). As shown in the figure below, the fan-in tree of the bottom left corner block contains blocks in different chains (shown in red color). Hence if an attacker wants to create an double spending transaction, he/she needs to create the entire fan-in tree across multiple chains, and need to create those faster than the honest miners/validators.



To handle ever increasing throughput, the chain can split as shown in the figure below. We can introduce voting mechanisms so the community can vote whether to split (or even merge) the chains depending on the need. With this the throughput of network can scale linearly with the number of new users.



The entangled chain structure also helps reduce the storage requirement. A miner/validator for a chain only needs to store the transaction data on its own chain, and the headers of other chains for cross chain transaction verification. In the example shown in the figure below, the miners/validators on chain #2 only stores the transaction data for chain #2. This could greatly reduce the amount of storage space needed as the users grow.



Transactions within the same chain will be processed the same way as in Bitcoin. Cross-chain transactions need to have special treatment to ensure safety and liveness. We propose to carry out a cross-chain transaction in two steps:

Step 1: generate a special transaction tx_id = lockin(source_chain_id, source_addr, target_chain_id, target_addr, amount). The only valid next operation for lockin is to commit a cross chain transfer. After this type of lockin transaction got written into a block, honest validators/miners will automatically generate and propagate a corresponding commit_xchain_transfer transaction as follows.

Step 2: commit_xchain_transfer(tx_id), along with the lockin transaction, its merkle siblings also need to be sent to the validators of the target chain. The miners/validators use SPV to verify that the lockin transaction has been included in the source chain. The initiator of the lockin transaction can also initiate the commit_xchain_transfer if the auto generated commit_xchain_transfer failed for some reason. Eventually the cross chain transaction will be executed successfully.

Double spending is not possible since the lockin step has specified the target chain, the amount of token is already deducted from the sender’s balance, and can only be transferred to the target chain.

This approach seems to work with different consensus mechanisms, including PoW and PoS.

Thoughts?  Shocked  Huh  Roll Eyes  Tongue

4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TOKEN SALE] Theta Network - Next generation video delivery powered by you on: December 06, 2017, 06:55:34 PM
Thanks! Let us know if you have any question on the whitepaper Smiley

Advertising for this project is doing very well.
I'm going to read the whitepaper, but it looks really promising!!

Can't wait for the bounty campaign, it can be a huge success!
Good luck, guys!
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TOKEN SALE] Theta Network - Next generation video delivery powered by you on: November 28, 2017, 06:59:57 PM
We're work on it. Will have more info regarding on the bounty program soon!

DO you have a plan to open bounty campaign dev? i never read information about bounty, but i think bounty campaign are needed
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TOKEN SALE] Theta Network - Next generation video delivery powered by you on: November 27, 2017, 08:11:38 AM
Ya will update once we have more info on that Smiley

any bounty campaign or airdrop sir?
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TOKEN SALE] Theta Network - Next generation video delivery powered by you on: November 26, 2017, 10:34:38 PM
Ya good suggestion!

Waiting for news bounty champainnya if any. This project is good but better supported by good promotion.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TOKEN SALE] Theta Network - Next generation video delivery powered by you on: November 26, 2017, 06:27:06 PM
Good question! First, Theta network encourages viewers to sharing their computers as caching relay nodes (somewhat similar to BitTorrent). In return they get Theta tokens as rewards. Viewers then can gift the theta tokens to the content creators. Advertising can also use Theta tokens to reward content creators. All these token transactions are direct transactions, video platforms in the middle don't take cuts. See the intro video below:

See intro video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5-TsO1aMm8

theta network is video sharing like other platform or different ?
we can contributed with make video content and share it to other user to get Theta token ?
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TOKEN SALE] Theta Network - Next generation video delivery powered by you on: November 26, 2017, 07:20:31 AM
Ya we'll strive to achieve that!

I see great investors on your list. It will be good for the consumer if your project is successful
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TOKEN SALE] Theta Network - Next generation video delivery powered by you on: November 26, 2017, 04:39:50 AM
Good question! In our proposal, in the first phase we plan to combine peer-to-peer and CDN to accelerate video delivery. Viewer can pull stream from either peers or CDN edge servers depending on which one has better quality. Hence more peering nodes will always lead to higher quality.

Yes blockchain plays the central role in our architecture -- the peering caching nodes acts similar to miners in Bitcoin/Ethereum. However, the block reward is not a constant. It depends on how much video relay work the caching node conducted. If a caching node relayed more video streams, when it mines a new block, it will get higher reward. This encourages the caching nodes to perform useful works (relaying video) besides mining new blocks.

For more details, please see our whitepaper and tech overview slides:
Whitepaper: https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/assets.thetatoken.org/Theta-white-paper-latest.pdf
Tech overview: https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/assets.thetatoken.org/Theta-tech-overview-latest.pdf

good afternoon, and how does the "theta" want to work on it? how can the peer-to-peer process help deliver high-quality video? Do you intend to use the blockchain in any way on the project? If so, how?
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TOKEN SALE] Theta Network - Next generation video delivery powered by you on: November 25, 2017, 08:02:29 PM
Thanks!

idea is good . the team is very strong , i think that is good project worth to invest. good luck for your project
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TOKEN SALE] Theta Network - Next generation video delivery powered by you on: November 25, 2017, 06:15:02 PM
Ya real for sure, please see the news articles on Forbs and HuffingtonPost:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2017/11/21/new-vr-streaming-service-bittorrent-meets-blockchain-meets-youtube-meets-twitch
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/theta-reinventing-streaming-video_us_5a143dfae4b08b00ba673414

Is the line-up you guys have to offer here real? Cheesy I mean you are real superstars in the tech space, that would be just awesome! Any verification?
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TOKEN SALE] Theta Network - Next generation video delivery powered by you on: November 25, 2017, 09:13:19 AM
Great question! BTW this is Jieyi. I am the CTO of Theta/SLIVER.tv

The main purpose of using blockchain is to encourage viewers to share their redundant bandwidth resource to relay the video stream. In return they'll get Theta tokens as rewards.

The viewers that share their bandwidth resource are called caching nodes. They relay video streams while mining new blocks just as Bitcoin miners. Yet in Theta, the reward for a block is NOT a constant. The more video stream the caching node relayed, the higher block reward it would get. Here is how it works -- when a caching node mines a new Theta block it calculates a reputation score for itself. The reputation score is a measure of the amount of video stream data it relayed in a recent time window. A high reputation score increases the block reward, and in turn encourages the caching node to relay more video. Furthermore, when a new block is mined, all caching nodes must verify the reputation score of the caching node that mined the block, and thus form a global consensus on the block reward.

The calculation of the reputation score is based on the "service certificates" the caching node collected from its downstream viewers while relaying the video streams. The "service certificates" requires hashing power to generate and therefore hard to fake. Yet the "service certificates" are easy for other miners to verify, which makes the global consensus on the block reward possible. To get more details, please look at our whitepaper and the technical overview:

Whitepaper: https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/assets.thetatoken.org/Theta-white-paper-latest.pdf
Technical overview: https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/assets.thetatoken.org/Theta-tech-overview-latest.pdf

a simple question...
buy why do you need blockchain for that busines?

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