So i'm not sure, but i think i managed to screw up my situation again.
I saw on btc.com that my tx is no longer in mempool. So i "ran" to my wallet (before thinking to check other explorers), deleted local tx and broadcasted new one, with 47sats/byte with rbf active in case i need it tomorrow.
Some of the explorers see new transaction (218eaf4dbce7d50e20355c5ae29d5f4cc2a9f4abcb0158044926bf344ceb3878), some of them don't - still see previous one. One of them marked it even as double spend. https://www.smartbit.com.au/tx/87f45f4054eb12c8dcbc7e14ba71cca166ddc270640fdb8a11b5893a0f2ec634
What will happen if electrum catch that first transaction from network again?
Should i worry about it? Or i just have to wait for rest of them to drop old tx and accept new one?

hello,

can you assist me with this one?
218eaf4dbce7d50e20355c5ae29d5f4cc2a9f4abcb0158044926bf344ceb3878

So in other words i would have to sum fee that would be used for 3 transactions and divide that sum by total size of 3 tx's in vbyte and conclude if that would push my tx?

I have now 134, 222 and probably 323 vbyte transaction that gives me total sum of 679.
I would use 911, 22000 and around 27000 sats that is 49 911.
That would give me 49911/679 = 73,5 sats/vbyte. Not bad considering were i started.
Am i calculating this right?
The 323 number is taken from first tx that was generated from bitcoin atm, the sender is the same. This time it would be done by human so it might be lower than this.

Just called the guy from atm company and he said he'll do the transfer tomorrow, i'm so pissed.

Great, thanks.
I got another idea because i may come across another problem.
My new funds will be sent with 0.00022 (or just 2, cant get a hold of the sender) fee. So probably it will be confirmed in early morning i hope(in europe, when fees are low) or on sunday.
Would double cpfp be possible in that scenario?
I mean i would create tx with one output(myself) that would include both unconfirmed change from my original transaction and those unconfirmed funds from the transfer i'm waiting for.
As far as i understand all this i think it would, but please correct me if i'm wrong.
cheers

Hello guys,
I'm still waiting for additional money but i wonder if i can do transaction now with change i've got, and then (if it dosen't get confirmed) do a rbf with that new transactions when satoshis arrives. I see i can check that rbf box for new tx, but not sure if my thinking is right while doing cpfp. Or if these two operations work separatly and cpfp wont affect rbf in the future?
Other option is to do cpfp and leave 1 satoshi from that change, and do another cpfp when i get additional resources.
I don't like second option because it would add additional bytes to my tx, so i think if i would choose 2nd option i would rather wait for my satoshis.
But never done rbf, its just changing the fee or is there any catch to it? Does it change weight of the tx or am i thinking right to try confirm with light tx and then add via rbf if it doesn't confirm?

edit:
also should i take into account that the cpfp would be done from segwit address? Would it affect rbf in any way? I mean if it would be impossible for that type of btc address.

will do,thank you for that clarification

That is brilliant. Thank you guys so much.
Thank you o_e_l_e_o for that detailed response.
I see the CPFP option now.
I might be able to redirect the transfer to my segwit address so probably no need to import my wallets into one. But i'll do it anyway just to try that option.
You saved my day and i learned some new things today. Thanks a lot everybody!

I've imported into electrum as instructed and I see my change. Thanks for that.
Tommorow i'll have few more bucks in my account but it would appear in my legacy address, but maybe i can reroute that.

Bear with me for last question. Given that i have this change, how to create another tx that will bump my previous tx? Don't mind the amounts im spending, that it'll be too low. I want to know how to do it.

So i have to do another transaction that is somehow connected to original tx? But how to do that?
Don't get me wrong, because i know i'm the one that got myself into that mess, but all i read all over the internet is that i can do CPFP (as you and ranochigo stated) but no one really says how to do it
I already lost more then 20 hours trying to solved it past 48 hours so either i'm stupid or instructions aren't realy user/newbie friendly.


As i said i'm not too technical about all this stuff but i'll try to do my best to answer.
I'm not 100% sure about the leftover. I mean how it can be or not be unconfirmed? I see it in my mycelium wallet and also it appears in the tx. I don't get how that is possible.
https://btc.com/87f45f4054eb12c8dcbc7e14ba71cca166ddc270640fdb8a11b5893a0f2ec634
I see 2 outputs here, one is the receiver, second one should (that i'm not sure) be the change. I'm not sure about it for 2 reasons:
The change appear only in my mycelium wallet, electrum dosen't seem to see it - balance is 0.
I don't understand how my original tx took 0.00009 from my wallet, put 0.00000911 into a fee and rest into change. Why not just do 1 output and leave my change with my wallet?
Tx was sent 2 days and 6 hours ago.
There is one input and 2 outputs if I understand correctly the link i posted.
I know mempool get stuck, the low fee use wasn't on purpose.

Thank you for quick reply.

By doing CPFP did you meant that i should do it in my mycelium wallet or can i go elswhere with this? Is there any tutorial regarding this or this is strictly bound with wallet software?
Im asking because:
1. When i imported my wallet into electrum it shows 0 balance, but i see my tx's. Tried that with samourai, but balance was 0 with no history.
2. Mycelium says my balance is to low, which is strange if they allowed my to send tx with 44 cents and they say my leftover 4$ is too low. Support not responding isn't helpful in it that regard.
3. Because of this brodcasting problem, i deleted (locally) the tx for it not to appear in my wallet, and balance went from 4 $ to 0. I read that it might appear again. Not sure if that's an issue for me regarding doing CPFP.

From theoretical stand point, if I would ask receiver to do CPFP is it possible to do it with any wallet? And if they do, miners are obligated to confirm my tx to because they both connected?
How can one spend btc they don't have yet? Or if the network see unconfirmed transaction it takes it into account?

Hello guys,

I'm new to wallet business. I Already send multiple transactions in bitcoin network, but never had an issue like i'm having now.
First my tx is 87f45f4054eb12c8dcbc7e14ba71cca166ddc270640fdb8a11b5893a0f2ec634
There are 2 outputs, lower one is probably my change, because wallet showed me excalty that balance.
Most of the time I sent my btc was between exchanges and some android wallets. Never had issues because most of the time my fees were 0.0002 up to 0.001 btc. This time is different.
So i went to bitcoin atm to buy some bitcoin. It got stuck with my last bill. I could repeat the process but fee of the atm would consume 90% of the bill value so i didn't use it. That said that bill was for my fee to send bitcoin after i receive it.
So i did get 0.04209 btc. I thought it's not bad, not my usual fee, i can wait a little bit. So I'm using mycelium android wallet for this transfer, set up my fee to 34sats/byte which is low, but it should be confirmed in few hours. After i hit send button i saw there are some leftovers in my account and that tx fee was set for 4sats/byte. Don't know how this happened but here i am.
More than 2 days later i'm waiting for confirmation and not sure what to do.
Of course i read https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802212.0
Besides that i'm reading all over the internet and not sure if there is any help in there for me.
Tried to import my wallet into electrum, which i did successfully but couldn't do rbf on my transaction.
Mycelium gives me option to bump fee(cfbf) - but as i read cfbf is only helpful if i'm receiver, which i'm not. There's support not responding, there is no faq/help about wallet and it's options.
Many of you suggest to wait it out. Or is there any other possibility? Installing bitcoin-core and zaping my transaction would help? Or when i used wallet without rbf it's not an option for me and shouldn't waste time?
I read that there might be also double spend transaction not being processed by miners problem. Because i'm new and not to technical not sure if that would help me or hurt me.
Also, am I right thinking that logging into wallet is rebrodcasting my tx? Can't find straight answer for this one all over the internet.
If it does, how waiting tx out to be forgotten is any good for me if my wallet will brodcast it again anyway?
Or do i don't understand something here.
What can i do at this point? Someone is waiting for their payment and i don't know what to do.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Using viabtc with paid service is last resort for me, but don't want to go there because right now i can't afford it.

cheers,
Rafal

p.s. I know i've chosen poorly in wallet segment area so please do not instruct me to choose other one in future because i know that already

Yeah i know, it was due to series of unfortunate events. Im sure i chose 34 sat/byte, instead i end up with 4/byte, dont know how and when it got switched.
Service you're offering is accually accelerating or it's just brodcasting again? Hope it's not the second option. Anyway thanks for your time!

hello,
I accidenlty put very low fee on my tx and its stuck for 2 days now. Can you help me?

87f45f4054eb12c8dcbc7e14ba71cca166ddc270640fdb8a11b5893a0f2ec634

cheers

hi,

i accidently put very low fee (4sat/b) for my tx and its stuck for 48 hours now, can you help?
87f45f4054eb12c8dcbc7e14ba71cca166ddc270640fdb8a11b5893a0f2ec634

Totally agree with @EmptySD and @dieselfrank.

@Periphery as it was said before - if you think your project is good go for it. You said that you don't like to work for shitty people but I'm not sure if you understand the concept of this project. As you donate BTCZ (or other alts) to the project you donate your work to the project as well. But it's donation, you don't have to do it. It's voluntary.
There is no "boss" (at this point) or anyone who will tell you what to do. If you truly work for people you should just do that, complete what you started and see if it sticks or not.
If I understood rizzman correclty there is noone that would coordinate subprojects in general so I don't think you shouldn't have a grudge for him or anyone else in that matter for not taking the time to review your project. Of course it would be better if there was someone that would do it but unfortunately it would mean that project need more money. And it's not that kind of project. Time will determine if community project like btcz can withstand with all the big money alts.
Just do your job and wait for the community to appreciate your effort if you deliver good wallet.
Otherwise it's just talking and wasting everybodys time - including yours! Don't listen to people not worth your attention, especially internet people who trash talk without doing nothing (what rizzman said). Just do your job and hope for the best. Good luck to you even if you move to other project.

Why we considering coinrail if it doesn't support english language?

See I don't understand that. You're saying that everybody is fighting for better listings on good exchanges so please explain it to me what choice community has/had?
OK we had to start somewhere so there was trade satoshi with 700k 24h market volume then it was stock.exchange with 3M.
Earlier I asked about delays on stock exnchange, I dont now if there is issue with all currencies or just with btcz because it was pumping (normal growth should be similiar in all exchanges and on trade satoshi was 97 all day). I dont now if this is a scam. Same happend 2 days ago at yobit, they were pumping b3coin, of course you still can't deposit b3 funds there.
i don't think i will use that exchange in the future. And because of those "issues" which are happening on all small exchanges I dont think I'll use btc+open at all.

And now we can make a difference. I dont now who chose those exchanges for voting but I cannot find any reason to put open ledger+btc alpha in confrontation with cryptopia. At the moment cryptopia is only exchange which could do something good for BTCZ and its community. Look at the numbers:
Open ledger 2,4m 24 volume
Btc alpha 6m

Cryptopia 172m

Cryptopia has a lot of potential, I am trading there from time to time, never had any trobules. Ok it's not bittrex or binance but for now I think it's the best choice and opportunity for BTCZ (and small market coins in general). Especially if WE have to pay for it. I dont get why people vote (by donating) for btc alpha and open ledger. CRyptopia has 15 times bigger market than trade satoshi, stock exchange, open ladger and btc alpha combined.
Why tehre is even discussion if we should choose cryptopia or btc+open? Yeah I know, community coin and all that, but it doesn't make any sense. And choosing btc+open will not do the community any good, we only loose 5 BTC.

Anyone having trouble depositing btcz on stock.exchange? I sent some coins to check this exchange, already have around 110 confirmation (3 separate transactions) and nothing. Support not responding, I'm waiting few hours atm.

Hi guys,
it's my first post in this thread and forum.
at this point, if I sell, I'll loose about 40% of my btc money. it breaks my heart but I'm fine with it. it's the best way to learn. I would like to find what went wrong so I would like to ask some questiones:
1. is this project alive and real?
2. where do people get news about dev didn't communicate with team for 2 months and the marketing team quiting? (any official info) is it possible? with all the news and gaines of this coin - it happend maybe week ago? so why 2 months?
yes I know I could send them a message but if the're bunch of crooks such information would be useless
3. last but not least - why wraith protocol isn't mentioned in the road map on the official site? that's scares me most. or I'm seeing wrong or it's called different in the road map?

if anyone is so kind to reply please reply your information with it's source so I know yor not a troll and don't want to me to sell you cheap coin.
atm vere large amount of volume is bought cheaply so for now I'll HODL but anyone has some instight?
sorry about my grammar