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1  Bitcoin / Legal / The Anonymity concept is holding back the Revolution on: August 15, 2013, 10:50:30 AM

Many BitCoiners are holding the idea that the Bitcoin system will help men to
stay Anonymous in front of the BigBrother. The idea was right and beautiful but
it is a dead idea in reality.

These days No One is really anonymous for the BigBrother.

News about the Prism systems revealed what was a known secret, governments
are surveilling their citizens and all other real or fake enemies. The BigBrother has
the best tools to do so and this advantage will always remain against  the normal
citizens. (only really good hackers can stay Anonymous and only for a while).

Understanding and accepting this should not stop the Bitcoin revolution.

This understanding will enable us to look at all the advantages that Bitcoin
can bring to mankind.

- Worldwide commerce free of banks.
- Third nation people will be free from dictators that control the banks and will
  be able to conduct parallel economies.
- Governments will not be able to sequestrate your money (they can jail you
   but if you hide the key it’s untouchable).

By accepting the idea of "Verified ID Wallet"  we gain a door to worldwide
market of individuals  and firms  that can trade and connect above the banking
system. Instead of wasting time and be on the run from the law we can make
a real commercial revolution.

For some Bitcoiners it will feel like aiming lower but I believe it’s great,
it’s the real gospel.

Mori.S
Colored  BitCoin

2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitCoin vs BigBrother - fighting or containing on: August 13, 2013, 09:31:10 AM
Fuck paying taxes with bitcoin. Most of the older financial institutions (JP Morgan, Barclays etc) gained their early wealth from the profit of the slave trade, even today you have HSBC laundering money for Mexican cartels. None of the 1% pay their fair share in taxes so why should the average man in the street? I'm fine with my taxes going on education/healthcare/job creation, but I'm not happy with propping up failed greedy banks who have been ripping off (and bankrupting) their customers with dodgy mortgages/loans etc.

This is why applying the global commercial rules will enable us to free our money from the grip of the banks.
we need to supply with alternative under the low solution.

Containing and not Rejecting

3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitCoin vs BigBrother - fighting or containing on: August 13, 2013, 09:23:24 AM
A UID for bitcoin, thats kind of against the point of bitcoin.

With the correct low understanding we can free the bitcoin from the grip of the banks and the governments without
becoming outlaws. This is a bigger revolution then to just be manor anarchist men solution.
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitCoin vs BigBrother - fighting or containing on: August 13, 2013, 09:15:15 AM
It just occurred to me that the sooner "BigBrother" actually stamps 666 on the foreheads of all the morons who think this way, the easier it will be for me to avoid them.  It's really sad that this includes the majority of the Bitcoin community at this point.

Seriously, though, you sound Asian, so there's likely a genetic or, at the very least, a deep cultural reason for you to want to appease the mandarins, but you should consider studying the way that free and independent people behave in the face of despots, and emulating that instead.

This passive-aggressive nonsense might have made sense when the mountains were high and the emperor was far away, but it doesn't work against an omnipresent "democratic" police state.  The ponzi scheme doesn't have to confiscate your Bitcoins in order for them to lose value.  They can take physical resources, and will.

Well Benjo, You are talking as the guardian of freedom but you are mistaken. Their is an old saying in Hebrew (חז"ל):

Pray for the sack of the kingdom as without the fear of it people will eat etch other alive.

You are able to write these words because you have the safety of the the "democratic police countries" with out them you
would be speaking your mind in a dark jail...

We have a lot to improve in our democratic countries but it's the best system man had found until now (unless you have a better idea).
So if we are looking for improvement we have to make a change with out killing the system.  As we are aware the we must limit the power
of the governments we also need to make our bitcoin system apply with the global economic and low rules.
This will enable the bitcoin system becoming a mainstream tool.

Applying with the rules can be hard for your freedom image but will help the community to profit from bitcoin.

As to your genetic and cultural understanding abilities... they sucks and need to be improved....

Mori.S








 
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitCoin vs BigBrother - fighting or containing on: August 13, 2013, 08:36:50 AM
It sounds like a deal with the devil.
 Grin Grin Grin
Governments never had so much control than today but they want more and more.
Crimes should be fighted more directly and not with intimidation of innocent citizens.
The governments should exist for the citizens and not the citizens for the governments.

Remember Al Capone , with violent and fear no one could put his hands on him. To take him down the government had
to find tax offense and jail him. In this manner the government has a good reason to get the info.
But they have to let the people do their staff freely.
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / BitCoin vs BigBrother - fighting or containing on: August 05, 2013, 09:27:04 AM
As more news of the surveillance of the BigBrother are published daily and as
we understand that privacy is gone for 99.9% of the web users. We need to ask

how can we still protect our freedom?

We are demanding freedom in the constitution, free thinking and free acting as
ong as we do not harm the other. I would like to focus on the freedom to act.  as
in our modern world acting means using money to buy or change things around us.

But now we find that our money is not free ... and we are not sure that it is ours anymore.

Today keeping large amounts of money means using banks. Money that seats in the bank
is yours under condition. The BigBrother is the real owner of the money in the bank. He can
boycott it or freeze it he can decide to tax it or charge you for using it.

This power of the BigBrother is dangerous for our freedom as we know from our history
that the BigBrother can go bad.

Free people must take action to limit the power of the BigBrother in legal way while keeping
and protecting the valuable aspects of the democratic system. ( Anarchy is the worst thing
for freedom, as in anarchy the strong and violent will prevail and personal freedom
will be gone).

Bitcoin can limit  BigBrother's power as nobody can take it from you. they can hunt
you and imprison you but you can still hold your key and hold to your money. That makes
BitCoin a real alternative for our Dollars and Euros.

How can we make it a real alternative for real life trade and commercial use?

To answer that we have to understand what makes the BigBrother and the banks so afraid.
Let us start with the banks, they are going to loose billions in lost commissions they hate the
idea of free banking. This is why banks worldwide deliberately make problems in transferring
money to BitCoin projects.

The second is the BigBrother, well they have a stronger reason. Stopping Mafia and Terror money.
 Most people will agree with this idea (well I do). To protect our democratic nations we need
to fight crime and terror.

So does this reason kills BitCoin?

No it does not if we make the right steps toward global economy rules.
What are the rules that will make BitCoin more acceptable to the BigBrother? 

User ID is the answer!!!

User ID will make the BitCoin an acceptable alternative the governments and we will be
able to approve it use in world parliaments.If your wallet has a User ID it's can be
acceptable by the tax authorities. It can also be used for invoicing when working with
commercial partners.It can be used in courts to prove payments.

As the BigBrother have Prism in one hand and User ID in the other every transaction of
BitCoin is traceable the BigBrother will have it's security  requirements and the people
will have their free currency.

BitCoiners,  add the wallets with an User ID and make a major move into mainstream trade.

Mori.S


7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Banks are Killing cash money - BitCoin to the rescue on: July 29, 2013, 10:11:32 AM

Banks and credit cards companies all over the western world are promoting the idea of canceling the Cash money. The idea is being promoted with a noble reason, this will stop the undeclared cash trade and will gain two goals:
Crime money can not be used in large scales.
The government taxes revenue  will be higher, the government will have more money and will be able to lower the taxes to all.

It is a nice story to tell the people but it is only part of the story. Let's look at the advantages the banks and the government will gain on the back of the simple citizen.

1. Citizens will have to use banking services that will charge them for every action they make with their  own money. Charge them for credit line and more. meaning it will cost us to use our money.
2. The government will be able to take your money from the bank, tax it or freeze it. You are not in control or the owner of your own money.
3. Every action or purchase will be known to the BigBrother, so personal privacy is a dead idea.

Well, the BigBrother wishes to keep you under his hand, controlled and disciplined in a way  mankind has never been before. From the dawn of history man used gold, silver and commodities for trade. men could use or hide gold.  In bad times or if the government acted against the citizens, they had the capital to run away with or to finance uprising. In a way man was the owner of his money.

Today the governments and banks are declaring that citizens money can be used only if it fits their rules and ideas (most of them are good and most mankind agree with them).  You will not be able to buy things the BigBrother doesn't  approve (gambling,buying cuban cigars, buying bitcoins and so). most people say this is reasonable and bearable price to fight crime.

But what will happen if the BigBrother goes bad. We will not be able do anything about it. Look at Sirya,  will somebody dare to finance or support the rebels using credit cards ?
How long will it take the BigBrother to close his account and find him?

The American constitution grants citizens the right to bare arms, why? well this is the American way to make sure civilians can stand against the government if it goes bad and act's against man's freedom and rights. In present economy, money is impotent as weapons to be able to stand for your rights on public opinion in courts and in politics.  Taking cash money out of the system will weaken the citizens against the government.

It is important that free people will have the ability to act without the government's control. This is what makes the free world free. We have to guard our right for cash money. It is one of the signs of free society.

Today it looks like BitCoin and colored BitCoin in special can protect free men worldwide from the BigBrother control.

Mori.S
8  Bitcoin / Legal / Prism surveillance program will help BitCoin on: July 25, 2013, 12:43:59 PM

How Prism surveillance program will help BitCoin  become a mainstream currency

Now that we know that every country makes cyber surveillance on it's enemies and on it's own citizens
(Iran, China, Israel and the USA) and we understand that this ability of the BigBrother is here to stay and
will  even grow as every smartphone is a personal surveillance and tracking device and all our actions are
revealed and traceable.

Now we can choose  between the two options:
 1. Leave the cyber world to protect out privacy (Can you imagine that?)
 2. Accept that the cyber world is an open poker card game and  find how to enjoy it's benefits and beware of it's risks.

BitCoin transaction history is always open to the community and We can trace every BitCoin to it's
day of creation. Services who try to hide the history can not prevail against the power of the BigBrother,
if you are a target he will trace you.

The Question we need to ask is how this benefits BitCoin trade?

Today the image of BitCoin trade is of anarchism and crime, Mafia money and going against the system.
Well BitCoiners, Prism faded away the glamor of rebelling against the system. BitCoin trade is not an hiding
place for black money. Accept that and we can move the the next evolution stage.


Now the true power of the BitCoin system can be reviled. It is an amazing system form of payments and
handling your money by yourself free from the world banking system. It is reasonable to believe that in the
future countries will issue their own currency based on the BitCoin technology and  will fit it to the world
trade by implementing rules and regulation of tax reporting and personal authentication.

BitCoin leaders, Do It Now. you can make it become a main stream system by making the wallets match the
regulator rules. Brake the resistance of the law and banks by making the system a real alternative for legal
commerce and trade.

 Mori.S
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