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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] ォEnvionサ Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure on: December 09, 2017, 09:40:54 PM
I really appreciate the effort.Everyone should go through your finding before Investing.

We would actually appreciate a bit more of an effort before people start making accusations. 

The OP did not do a simple Google search on incorporating a company in Switzerland before insinuating that we are operating dishonestly.

Here's the first Google result for me: https://startups.ch/en/inform/foreignentrepreneurs/faq/

You will see that CHF 150,000 were invested because that's the amount required for a public limited company.  The ICO cost is estimated at $1.5 million which has mostly been raised already. Details in the WP.

Our CEO was indeed a journalist and has since had a two-decade career in the energy industry and runs an energy investment firm: http://www.quadrat-capital.com/management/

He has a very public profile and has helped lead many startups to success in the energy industry.

We have filed for a patent for our high-efficiency air cooling system. Our legal team estimates that it will be processed and available for your confirmation on the DPMA registration site in the next week or two. Patent filing number: 102017125540.0.  We did not develop this technology in one month, but over the course of many months of R&D.

Operating in stealth mode during R&D and product development is a normal process容specially in the hardware business葉o protect the intellectual property of the company and the negotiations with suppliers and customers until they are finalized.  Envion was made public when it made business sense to do so and our website, LinkedIn profiles, etc reflect that.  We know that anyone knowledgeable about startups and business understands how secrecy during the incubation period can be essential to success.

Now that we are public, we are operating with full transparency and we would encourage everyone to investigate and question our business.  However, we would also like the opportunity to engage directly with everyone so that we can answer questions before any accusations of dishonesty.  The OP has shown a complete unwillingness to engage in dialogue with us.  I hope you do your research and see how we have responded and go through ALL the public information on envion.  Please also do us the courtesy of informing yourself on the normal requirements and practices for businesses in our industry.

Lastly, envion's success is dependent on contracts with major energy industry customers.  Regulation is the norm in that industry and it is certainly normal for our team.  We operate transparently and in full compliance with financial and business regulations, not just because those are our values and we should do so to protect the investments of ICO participants, but also because one cannot operate in the energy industry if one is not in full compliance. 

We don't know how ICO scams operate and we have no interest in it.  We are offering a security token that is already complaint with SEC and Swiss financial authority regulations.  Envion is working to be traded on regulated exchanges.  We have outside auditors and partnerships with public research institutions.  It's shameful that unknown people with no social proof of identity can make accusations and threats about our business and that their claims are accepted with no scrutiny.  Please do your due diligence before amplifying their message.
 

hi envion (or AzakeB or Sparky71),

i'm just catching up on all the information about envion...in your above post from about a month ago...you mentioned that "We have filed for a patent for our high-efficiency air cooling system. Our legal team estimates that it will be processed and available for your confirmation on the DPMA registration site in the next week or two. Patent filing number: 102017125540.0.  We did not develop this technology in one month, but over the course of many months of R&D."...

i tried going to the DPMA registration site to find out more about this but perhaps i wasn't doing it right...i was unable to find the relevant information...

is this the right place to go to https://depatisnet.dpma.de/DepatisNet/depatisnet?action=einsteiger?

it will be great if you can advise how i can search for the Patent filing number: 102017125540.0.

thanks,
tommy
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] ォEnvionサ Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure on: December 04, 2017, 06:12:46 AM


Mark, I'm sorry you had to be removed because your conduct violated the channel's rules.  You were warned repeatedly and many people asked for you to be removed.

I answered your questions on Telegram and I will answer them AGAIN here.

1. Are you SCAM?
No.  But we encourage you to do your due diligence and find out for yourself.  That means you have to look at our website and whitepaper at the very least.

You can learn all about what Envion does on our website, but if you want to be sure we're not a scam, I suggest you take a look at our team. 

You can also see that we are in partnership with the Frauenhofer Institute, one of the premier science research institutes in Europe: http://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/envion-ag-envion-and-fraunhofer-to-start-research-cooperation-20171109-00299

2. Where are founders and co-founders? Where are no info about founders on website!
All the info on our team is on the Team page, visible from the top navigation: https://www.envion.org/en/team/

The entire Envion team have been working on public projects in the German business community for years謡e are entrepreneurs with easily-accessible public profiles.

3. Where do you mine? NO INFO about your minig!!!
We have a Mobile Mining Unit in operation not far from our Berlin offices.  We will have a second unit coming online in the next two weeks. Info about it and a view of the operating dashboard is available here: https://www.envion.org/en/mobile-mining-unit/

4. Website was open 1 month ago!!!
It's normal for a company to work in stealth until they are ready with their product.  We are no different. Learn about stealth mode here: https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/229461

Furthermore, we couldn't possibly have developed our IP, written our whitepaper, gotten lawyers, secured deals, etc. in in one month. 

Now that we are public, we will also be announcing our external auditor from one of the Big Four auditing firms who will oversee our ICO and business operations for full transparency and accountability.

5. Where is technical characteristics for power ?
I don't know what this means and you refused to clarify in our discussion on Telegram.

6. Where is info about mining power per container&
There is considerable information on the technical specifications of our mining units in our 60-page whitepaper: https://www.envion.org/en/whitepaper/

In addition to that information, we are coming out with supplementary data that shows more detail on our projections and different operating scenarios. That is a need that arose from user requests here and on Telegram and we are responding to it.

7. Where do you locate&
We are a Swiss company with operations in Berlin, which is where our mining unit is.  This information is on our website and has been confirmed by DigiCert to get our SSL license: https://www.envion.org/en/imprint/

8. To color a container is it your real technology?
As for what our innovation is, there are many: from using Industry 4.0 controls, to the mining software that dynamically chooses coin, algo, etc. from real-time market data, to the patent-pending cooling system.

If it were just throwing some ASICs in a box we wouldn't have one of the world's premier research institutions working with us, the Frauenhofer Institute (they invented MP3s too!).

MORE OF YOUR 'QUESTIONS':

1. Your company was created October, 5, 2017! (Info from Zug, Switzerland register -  we can provide a paper).
Again, we were working in stealth mode.  A lot of companies incorporate new entities in their ICO jurisdiction when they decide they will use an ICO to fund their project.

2. Website was created in October, 2017!
We hope you are not using our website to determine if we are legit用lease do more research.  Yes, it went public when envion went public with our company and project.

3. In White Paper you told about  Envion technologies GmbH what will cooperate with you, but no any info about this company! Please, send me a link to this company!
Here is the text from the whitepaper: "After the ICO, we will found a 100% subsidiary for R&D and the management of container production: envion technologies GmbH, located in the German blockchain capital of Berlin."

I'm not sure how we can make the word AFTER more clear or to better describe the purpose of creating that subsidiary.

4. Account in Linked In was opened 1 week ago!
Stealth mode, dude. Not sure what else to say.

5. Your CEO is journalist and  was hired in October, 2017 like all their team!
Our CEO has spent two decades in the energy industry after his career as a journalist, leading an energy investment fund in Berlin and advising many energy startups: http://www.quadrat-capital.com/management/


Mark, please stop the harassment.  I've answered your questions many times over now.  I welcome hard questions and don't even mind a bit of conflict, but you are scaring away other people from asking their important questions.  I hope this suffices.


hi,

in your above post, you mentioned that "Now that we are public, we will also be announcing our external auditor from one of the Big Four auditing firms who will oversee our ICO and business operations for full transparency and accountability."...i have done some research but was unfortunately unable to locate the relevant information...would you mind sharing more information about the external auditor that you are working with?

thanks,
tommy
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ATTENTION INVESTORS!! ICO Envion project is not workable!!!do not answer,delete on: December 04, 2017, 04:14:38 AM
I really appreciate the effort.Everyone should go through your finding before Investing.

We would actually appreciate a bit more of an effort before people start making accusations.  

The OP did not do a simple Google search on incorporating a company in Switzerland before insinuating that we are operating dishonestly.

Here's the first Google result for me: https://startups.ch/en/inform/foreignentrepreneurs/faq/

You will see that CHF 150,000 were invested because that's the amount required for a public limited company.  The ICO cost is estimated at $1.5 million which has mostly been raised already. Details in the WP.

Our CEO was indeed a journalist and has since had a two-decade career in the energy industry and runs an energy investment firm: http://www.quadrat-capital.com/management/

He has a very public profile and has helped lead many startups to success in the energy industry.

We have filed for a patent for our high-efficiency air cooling system. Our legal team estimates that it will be processed and available for your confirmation on the DPMA registration site in the next week or two. Patent filing number: 102017125540.0.  We did not develop this technology in one month, but over the course of many months of R&D.

Operating in stealth mode during R&D and product development is a normal process容specially in the hardware business葉o protect the intellectual property of the company and the negotiations with suppliers and customers until they are finalized.  Envion was made public when it made business sense to do so and our website, LinkedIn profiles, etc reflect that.  We know that anyone knowledgeable about startups and business understands how secrecy during the incubation period can be essential to success.

Now that we are public, we are operating with full transparency and we would encourage everyone to investigate and question our business.  However, we would also like the opportunity to engage directly with everyone so that we can answer questions before any accusations of dishonesty.  The OP has shown a complete unwillingness to engage in dialogue with us.  I hope you do your research and see how we have responded and go through ALL the public information on envion.  Please also do us the courtesy of informing yourself on the normal requirements and practices for businesses in our industry.

Lastly, envion's success is dependent on contracts with major energy industry customers.  Regulation is the norm in that industry and it is certainly normal for our team.  We operate transparently and in full compliance with financial and business regulations, not just because those are our values and we should do so to protect the investments of ICO participants, but also because one cannot operate in the energy industry if one is not in full compliance.  

We don't know how ICO scams operate and we have no interest in it.  We are offering a security token that is already complaint with SEC and Swiss financial authority regulations.  Envion is working to be traded on regulated exchanges.  We have outside auditors and partnerships with public research institutions.  It's shameful that unknown people with no social proof of identity can make accusations and threats about our business and that their claims are accepted with no scrutiny.  Please do your due diligence before amplifying their message.
  

hi,

i'm just catching up on all the information about envion...in your above post from about a month ago...you mentioned that "We have filed for a patent for our high-efficiency air cooling system. Our legal team estimates that it will be processed and available for your confirmation on the DPMA registration site in the next week or two. Patent filing number: 102017125540.0.  We did not develop this technology in one month, but over the course of many months of R&D."...

i tried going to the DPMA registration site to find out more about this but perhaps i wasn't doing it right...i was unable to find the relevant information...

is this the right place to go to https://depatisnet.dpma.de/DepatisNet/depatisnet?action=einsteiger?

it will be great if you can advise how i can search for the Patent filing number: 102017125540.0.

thanks,
tommy
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