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As it says on the HOME PAGE "Do not use a symbol that has an <ALGO> added. Such as XVG-blake2s or AUR-sha or DGB-skein, these are ALL WRONG. " RTFM... look,what wrong !? -o stratum+tcp://x17.mine.zpool.ca:3737 -u my wallet -p c=XVG-x17 -i 22 what the f*ck wrong  ? |
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You have the wrong end of the stick... the pool does NOT 'auto exchange mining proceeds to coins I didn't specify in the "password" field' as it says on the FAQ - you mine an ALGORITHM, the pool picks the 'best' coins to mine in that algo. These appear in the web interface, these coins are then EXCHANGED (internally for non-BTC / via an Exchange for BTC) to the coin YOU specify in the PASSWORD field with c=COINID. Your USERNAME shoudl be a CORRECT wallet address for whatever coin you specify in the password. If you pick a non-BTC coin then the pool can only pay you if that coin is mined, if the coin is not the 'best' coin it WILL NOT be mined so you won't get paid. TL:DR If you want to MINE a SPECIFIC coin you are on the wrong pool, if you want to get PAID in a specific (non BTC) coin then you take the risk that you may not get paid quickly or at all if the pool doesn't mine the coin. Hey there, I have a problem, I used 0.15 btc to mine neoscrypt coin GBX, of course I set the password c=GBX, yet I received nothing, as far as I see, coins were mined as GBX and then auto exchanged to bunch of other coins, and I dont know where they are paid, or what happened in general? here is the address: https://www.zpool.ca/?address=GVtcgeFuSFyTS242FcQzSq1ZNndMZFty2SI tried it again, different address and same thing happened, wth? This is explained in the pool frontpage: Non-BTC payouts depend on that coin being mined as your BTC balance is traded internally by our system to your currency of choice. If we have not or are not mining that currency your payouts will be delayed until the pool has mined the blocks for you to get paid.
If you notice in the pools status that the currency is red, it means there is not sufficient amount of the currency to pay miner(s). It's recommended to use BTC as any other coin could be removed at anytime and payouts will not occur. Addresses that are older than 6 months without any mining are considered inactive. Inactive accounts are purged after 6 months and any remaining balances are forfeited. If a coin is NOT listed on the pool (except BTC) and you still choose to mine with that address, you risk not getting any payments.
BTC is the only guaranteed payout currency.GBX IS MINED on zpool. I'd be perfectly fine with waiting until GBX block is found by miners on the pool (even if it takes days), but I AM NOT FINE with my mining proceeds being auto exchanged to coins I didn't specify in the "password" field. What can be done to fix this? Check your wallet - you got paid 15 minutes ago. Pls check the zpool interface, I got paid just 25 gbx, that is a payment for a very short mining period (my second attempt), yet the first mining period isn't paid. I should at least 100 gbx for that, if not more. Anyways, I contacted the admin, so we'll see what happens. Let it go, if you want to mine GBX use the official pool, no need to worry about exchanges and what not + lower fee ( 0.5% vs 2%) https://us1.gobyte.network/It doesn't make any sense to mine here. I guess you're right. I'll still update you guys if I get a response from admin. |
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There are enough dedicated LTC pools that I doubt we would get enough Hashrate to make it work. I think the long block times cause several issues, we either end up with a large number of miners 'stuck' on LTC until we get a block or miners drop in and out and we never get a block, plus it only takes a couple of invalid blocks to drop the returns right off, and (as you say) the pool works on short term profitability which only really works if we get a block in the same sort of timescale as the profitability is worked out over. Hi Crackfoo
Can you check LTC again - over 24h since we got a block and it has killed scrypt profitability again! I really think we should drop it from the pool, it does give a nice uptick on returns when we do get a block but they take soooo long...
Thanks
the problem is you can't base short term profitability on high diff coins when pool TTF is rather high..... Its a tough decision to make for sure... Maybe on coins like LTC, add a port specifically for that coin? Might be an interesting idea... but i fear it would not get enough users if configured that way. |
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Hi Crackfoo
Can you check LTC again - over 24h since we got a block and it has killed scrypt profitability again! I really think we should drop it from the pool, it does give a nice uptick on returns when we do get a block but they take soooo long...
Thanks
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The POOL 'Guesses' at your hash rate by looking at the rate you submit valid shares. It can't see the hashrate your miner reports from the software. The rate you submit shares can vary according to your 'luck' in finding them so the hashrate the pool shows will ALWAYS go up and down. In addition the pool may reject your shares for various reasons, most of which are to do with your miner config (EG overclocking can cause invalid shares) or internet (EG slow internet means that your shares may be stale), intermittent internet means your miner may be finding shares but unable to submit them - somewhere it says that difficulty is varied so you submit 5 - 15 shares / minute so it is quite possible for your miner to getwork but not be able to submit the share a few seconds later. (EDIT: apologies - misread the post chain and you HAVE shown your share values...) S/A/T for all my miners:
Miners 1: 0/1820/1822
Miners 2: 0/14262/14282
Miners 3: 0/15012/15029
Miners 4: 0/2260/2260
Miners 5: 0/2315/2315
Miners 6: 0/1860/1861
Those are very short uptimes on all but two, like half a day only..... so it seems the miners have rebooted, or something else going on... As you can see in my graphs, you can only see the dips of the frontend going offline, or the time I rebooted my miners when I got home from a long trip last night. There have been pool problems with some coinboxes having corrupted drives as crackfoo has mentioned not long ago.... keep that in mind as well. Is it still exhibiting this behavior today, or is the graph leveled out looking like my link above? and what could be the problem? overclocking cards? can it matter in Miner from alexis 1.0? Today's schedule is also not particularly happy, the link is a picture of him. http://s018.radikal.ru/i516/1712/08/2fd09feb6145.png |
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Looks like LTC is working now - good jumps in unpaid when we find an LTC block! Crackfoo TBH I would suggest dropping LTC in any case because of the long block times - it would seem to make sense not to mine any coin where you won't get a block reasonably often (say 1 in 10 or 1 in 20 blocks?) I am pretty sure the returns had an uptick while you had LTC disabled but now most of the hashpower is back on LTC again... It occurred to me - could you 'piggy back' the LTC mining onto another (bigger) pool - or is that not possible or ethical? You're probaly right on LTC dragging down the profitability. It's doubled in diff since BCC went POS and now needs another 1Th pool speed to make it consistent.
I'll drop it for a few days and see how it does.
So that is the explanation why even mining the most profitable algos with MultiPoolMiner I get half or 1/3 the expected income over 24 hours? I'm no expert but wouldn't make sense to adjust profitability by taking into account the time needed to find a block or simply multiply the profitability with poolhash/networkhash ratio? I discovered several rejected LTC blocks, so we should have had better profitability. Unsure why they were rejected but I've updated LTC to the latest code and I'm going to try it for today. If I see another reject I'll have to take it off and dig further. |
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Crackfoo TBH I would suggest dropping LTC in any case because of the long block times - it would seem to make sense not to mine any coin where you won't get a block reasonably often (say 1 in 10 or 1 in 20 blocks?) I am pretty sure the returns had an uptick while you had LTC disabled but now most of the hashpower is back on LTC again... It occurred to me - could you 'piggy back' the LTC mining onto another (bigger) pool - or is that not possible or ethical? You're probaly right on LTC dragging down the profitability. It's doubled in diff since BCC went POS and now needs another 1Th pool speed to make it consistent.
I'll drop it for a few days and see how it does.
So that is the explanation why even mining the most profitable algos with MultiPoolMiner I get half or 1/3 the expected income over 24 hours? I'm no expert but wouldn't make sense to adjust profitability by taking into account the time needed to find a block or simply multiply the profitability with poolhash/networkhash ratio? I discovered several rejected LTC blocks, so we should have had better profitability. Unsure why they were rejected but I've updated LTC to the latest code and I'm going to try it for today. If I see another reject I'll have to take it off and dig further. |
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Re: profitability
I am looking at Scrypt only - my concern isn't that I was earning X last week and I am earning Y this week, but the actual last 24h earnings are barely 1/2 of the current estimate - I know there can be variation but it is usually about right, Also the individual coins are all showing between 2 and 3 mBTC/GH/Day
With 500Mhs I should be getting about 0.08 LTC (whattomine and manual calcs), which is currently at 0.016 BTC (current @ Bittrex) so this should come come out around 0.00128 BTC/24h.
Over the last 26 hours I have made 0.00055 BTC which is less than 1/2 what I could get by mining LTC straight.
I don't know what the issue is but there seems to be one. it MAY be that the pool keeps dropping large amounts of hash onto LTC, but not enough to get a block (last LTC block was 30h), so it would seem sensible to drop LTC from the coin list as we don't have enough hash to mine it effectively.
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No - in the passwordfield where you have put the c=BTC value, ZPool uses the Password field to pass this information so as far as the miner software it IS the password! Do you know if this would be typed under "Command line parameters (optional)" on awesomeminer? Thanks a lot as per the web site http://zpool.ca/site/diffyou add a parameter d=xxx to your password, so it will (probably) look like c=BTC,d=512 Does anyone know how to set a specific difficulty for neoscrypt through Awesomeminer? It keeps pushing my difficulty to 2186 and then my estimated hash rate plummets, then it drops down to 256 and starts the cycle of working back up over again. If anyone has a suggested difficulty recommendation, I'm getting about 7.2-7.3 MH/s. Thanks!
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as per the web site http://zpool.ca/site/diffyou add a parameter d=xxx to your password, so it will (probably) look like c=BTC,d=512 Does anyone know how to set a specific difficulty for neoscrypt through Awesomeminer? It keeps pushing my difficulty to 2186 and then my estimated hash rate plummets, then it drops down to 256 and starts the cycle of working back up over again. If anyone has a suggested difficulty recommendation, I'm getting about 7.2-7.3 MH/s. Thanks!
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Is there someting up with the Scrypt pool - last 24 hour profitability is barely half the current (projected is completely wacky...) and has been consistently low since the major issues.
I was willing to think it was purely a display issue but have switched my miner back (I needed to get to a withdrawal threshold on another pool) and it does look like my current rate of return is in line with the 'last 24' figure.
With my L3+ (500Mh/s) over 24h I can get 0.08 - 0.1 LTC on an LTC pool which is roughly 0.001 BTC , Here I have got about 0.0002 BTC (from 0.00146 up to 0.00168) over 10 hours or so which is around 0.0005 BTC over 24 hours (and in line with the displayed 1.2 mBTC/GH).
All the coins show profitability of 2-3 mBTC/GH so it is difficult to see why the pool is only making 1.2mBTC/GH...
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Hi Crackfoo
Looking at the block times for litecoin (4hours and above) would it be better to take that out of the Scrypt coin pool - As I understand it once miners go onto a coin they stay on it until a block is found? If so this means that most of the pool will be 'stuck' on Litecoin for several hours...
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Why not say 'support in forum only' - or create a separate forum thread for support issues...
I get +100 emails daily. This is why I'm late and hard to read whole thread.
I'm tired these days answering all email questions.
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This account is 100% Trolling - waste of space to be sure... This thread is 90% the MPG owner posting on other accounts so obviously its cringeworthy. some shadiness happening here for sure.
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Yes you're right - I don't use multi algo so was going on the description of how to set it up and didn't spot that each line had a different port number, that does make more senses than trying to detect what algo is being used!
The Multi-algo port detects which algo you are using and routes you to the correct pool.
each algo have their own port btw. This is how I see it: The pool "kicks you" out (by not giving you work) until you start mining the "most profitable" algo from this list (its a loop): :start EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us-east.ethash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:12020 -ewal username.workername -eworker username.workername -esm 3 -epsw x -allcoins 1 -retrydelay -1 #ethminer --farm-retries 0 -G -S us-east.ethash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:12020 -O username.workername:x -FS exit ccminer -r 0 -a groestl -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12004 -u username.workername -p x ccminer -r 0 -a myr-gr -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12005 -u username.workername -p x ccminer -r 0 -a x11 -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12007 -u username.workername -p x ccminer -r 0 -a x13 -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12008 -u username.workername -p x ccminer -r 0 -a x15 -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12009 -u username.workername -p x ccminer -r 0 -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12012 -u username.workername -p x ccminer -r 0 -a qubit -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12014 -u username.workername -p x ccminer -r 0 -a quark -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12015 -u username.workername -p x ccminer -r 0 -a skein -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12016 -u username.workername -p x ccminer -r 0 -a lyra2v2 -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12018 -u username.workername -p x ccminer -r 0 -a vanilla -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12019 -u username.workername -p x timeout 1 goto start |
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I think Awesomeminer or MPM try and do this algo switching within the software so they should (probably) be set up with the specific Algo ports in their config not the multi-algo ports. Only use the multi-algo ports if you WANT the POOL to decide which algo to mine as any connections to the non-optimal algo will be closed.....
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FWIW I think the multi algo works like this.
You set your miner software up with either multiple pools or multiple calls to the miner software in a batch file where each call runs a different algo. All the pools/calls use the SAME multi algo port and id details.
The Multi-algo port detects which algo you are using and routes you to the correct pool. IF the algo is not the most profitable of the set then the Multia-algo port closes the connection, this then makes the miner move onto the next pool (needs failover-only set) or causes the miner command line to exit and run the next one in the batch file.
So you configure the miner software to loop round trying each algo in turn against the multialgo port, the port will reject/close the connection if that is not the most profitable algo of the set. your miner MUST support all of the possible algo's which is why there are different ports for different algo sets.
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You DID follow the instructions on the OTP page.. Keep below OTP key offline at safe place to prevent from loss. Miningpoolhub does not permit you to disable OTP except OTP verification code because of account hijacking attempts. (e.g. Email or passport verification can't disable OTP)
OTP key : KOFMUOOXK2Z4SN,,,,,,,,Install authenticator on another device and enter the OTP key.... |
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HI Crackfoo
have you culled some of the Scrypt coins - there seem to be less in the list than previously?
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Take the tinfoil hat off... I am not a stooge - I am mining with L3+ and have worked across zpool, nicehash, litecoinpool and this one - there are other pools and NONE of the autoexchange pools give that detail. If you think you can build a better pool then feel free to do so, otherwise don't auto exchange and trade the coins yourself... I DO work in It so have a certain level of sympathy with the pool OP when he gets hammered by a mass influx from nicehash of users who need hand holding, ask basic questions and throw allegations of misfeasance around and then complain when he doesn't respond instantly. Hardly MPH fault that BITTREX lost your coin? Got email from admin telling me that my siacoin sent to bittrex is gone cause of their wallet.
4days of mining gone. just left MPH for good.
no, its MPH fault for providing zero transparency as to the transfer backend of the "auto exchange" why cant we know the tx details ? why cant we know the rate he got? why wont he answer these questions? why did it take 3 days and 5 emails before he finally responded that my coin is gone? why is no one getting the same hash as other pools? why are people missing bitcoin? why am i responding to an account clearly created to just post good things about this pool. Dude it is like 3 days there is a big warning at the top of the first page of Miningpoolhub regarding Siacoin and bittrex exchange not working. i really dont understand why you even go through the trouble of making other accounts, i mean your profile says registered 3 days ago and youve posted 10 times, each being passive agressive defending this pool. also the warning was put up just today and these questions remain. why cant we know the tx details ? why cant we know the rate he got? why wont he answer these questions? why did it take 3 days and 5 emails before he finally responded that my coin is gone? why is no one getting the same hash as other pools? why are people missing bitcoin? |
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