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1  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What difficulty does it become impossible to make ROI? on: July 22, 2013, 06:55:04 PM
@ 400 million difficulty after 6 months your ROI @$100 per coin and no power cost is $1215
@ 300 million $1621

with a 0.61 Profitability decline per year

http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/

The big question is when will we see these difficulties?
2  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What difficulty does it become impossible to make ROI? on: July 22, 2013, 06:41:35 PM
According to http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit, I can make $1,320 in 6 months at a difficulty of 370 million, with 60 GH/s, so I guess 370 million is the answer?


Anyone want to guess when we'll have 300+ million difficulty?
3  Other / Beginners & Help / What difficulty does it become impossible to make ROI? on: July 22, 2013, 06:32:48 PM
Assuming you paid $1,333 for a 60 GH miner, and assuming BTC is worth $100, what difficulty would you have to receive the miner to make a full Return on Investment in under 6 months?

200 million difficulty?  300 million ?  400 million?

edit:  forgot to mention, assume free electricity
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: July 21, 2013, 08:17:00 PM
I put in a paypal dispute because they're not shipping singles and I'm pissed

Of course they haven't replied to the dispute or refunded me yet and have a week to do so

I emailed BFL asking them if I cancelled the dispute would I be able to keep my position in queue

This was their response:




I was half expecting them to beg me to cancel the dispute and offer to bump me up in the queue or something, instead I get them stating that they "can not comment" on it.


I'm guessing if I cancel the dispute, I won't be seeing a refund and my order and position in queue will "accidentally" get lost


Anyone think i'll retain my position in queue if I cancel the dispute?

Interesting how the order page says refunded: 1 when I haven't gotten anything back in paypal yet:






I put in a paypal dispute because they're not shipping singles and I'm pissed

Of course they haven't replied to the dispute or refunded me yet and have a week to do so

I emailed BFL asking them if I cancelled the dispute would I be able to keep my position in queue

This was their response:




I was half expecting them to beg me to cancel the dispute and offer to bump me up in the queue or something, instead I get them stating that they "can not comment" on it.


I'm guessing if I cancel the dispute, I won't be seeing a refund and my order and position in queue will "accidentally" get lost


Anyone think i'll retain my position in queue if I cancel the dispute?

Interesting how the order page says refunded: 1 when I haven't gotten anything back in paypal yet:






So nobodies put in a paypal dispute and then decided to cancel it?  I'm wondering if I cancel the dispute will l still retain my position in queue?  BFL hasn't refunded me yet.
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: July 20, 2013, 03:49:04 PM
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That's silly. Why would you think you'd be rewarded (given a higher spot in the order queue) for causing them a headache? Especially these boards being the way they are (18,000 sign ups on digital ocean for primecoin miners after a single post with a referral link), if you succeeded and posted about your e pertinence, the next thing you know everyone would open disputes hoping to get bumped up as well. In which case everyone would be right back where they started.

I was half expecting
I was half
half


For Causing Them a Headache.  gr8 b8 m8
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: July 20, 2013, 05:12:46 AM
I put in a paypal dispute because they're not shipping singles and I'm pissed

Of course they haven't replied to the dispute or refunded me yet and have a week to do so

I emailed BFL asking them if I cancelled the dispute would I be able to keep my position in queue

This was their response:




I was half expecting them to beg me to cancel the dispute and offer to bump me up in the queue or something, instead I get them stating that they "can not comment" on it.


I'm guessing if I cancel the dispute, I won't be seeing a refund and my order and position in queue will "accidentally" get lost


Anyone think i'll retain my position in queue if I cancel the dispute?

Interesting how the order page says refunded: 1 when I haven't gotten anything back in paypal yet:



7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: July 19, 2013, 08:21:02 PM
If you had a February order for a Single with BFL and didn't have to pay for your electricity, would you keep your order?  Or do everything possible to get a refund?

Will these guys ever end up shipping 2013 orders? 
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