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1  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 如果有一天,比特币突然倒下了 on: December 11, 2017, 11:23:12 AM
比特币倒下只有一种可能:被其它加密货币取代。
2  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 【求扩散】HitBTC假AMM事件:放假币圈钱跑路,反诬用户是骗子 on: December 11, 2017, 05:35:16 AM
今天HitBTC上居然重新出现了AMM交易,是准备再坑一次么?

https://hitbtc.com/exchange/AMM-to-BTC
https://hitbtc.com/exchange/AMM-to-ETH
3  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 【求扩散】HitBTC假AMM事件:放假币圈钱跑路,反诬用户是骗子 on: December 11, 2017, 05:27:47 AM
回楼上:

此事是真的,具体经过可见
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2110/amm-issue-full-refund-requested/pl
以及https://forum.hitbtc.com里的其它帖子。

包括此事发生的同时HitBTC上的种种怪象也是真的,其论坛有大量相关帖描述了这些怪象。

被骗用户建了个群:
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2356/amm%E5%8F%97%E5%AE%B3%E8%80%85%E8%AF%B7%E5%8A%A0%E7%BE%A4
4  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / 【求扩散】HitBTC假AMM事件:放假币圈钱跑路,反诬用户是骗子 on: December 10, 2017, 12:40:33 PM
转自巴比特论坛(8btc.com)

原帖地址:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2551767.msg26072517#msg26072517

揭露全球Top5交易平台HitBTC的无耻嘴脸!!!

12月2日,HitBTC上的Micromoney代币AMM市场突然崩盘,一周后HitBTC发布官方说明称该AMM为涉诈骗的假币,用户购买该AMM的行为不合法,故没收了所有用户持有的AMM币并将该币种下架,同时拒绝退还用户投入的资金。HitBTC公告中甚至声称购买了该假AMM的用户也卷入了诈骗行为。

HitBTC自11月14日上架AMM至事发,一直未能向用户告知该AMM为假币,诱骗用户进行交易,同时收取交易手续费,事发后,第一时间没收用户资产拒绝返还,同时甩锅给用户。

此事好比大家去商店买东西时,店家明知是假货却不告知买主,被查后强行没收买主的货物,并以是假货为由拒绝退款,反过来甩锅给买主,诬告买主是骗子。

在此次假AMM事件中,用户显然是完全无辜的,我们更担心的是以后在HitBTC上买入任何币种,是否都要承担该币种是假币从而最终血本无归且无端被加上诈骗罪名的风险?

该事件发生的同时,HitBTC就出现了我昨天这个帖子里讲到的种种怪象:充值提现长时间不到账、用户资产莫名消失、提现被提到陌生地址或其它平台地址等:
http://8btc.com/thread-107645-1-1.html

看到此帖的朋友们,请尽力将此事扩散开来,大家齐心协力抵制此类恶劣行为!!!

bitcointalk讨论地址:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2556342.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2551767

Hitbtc论坛讨论帖:
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2110/amm-issue-full-refund-requested/pl

转发推特:
https://twitter.com/iDebabrataSamal/status/939722601592586243

起诉HitBTC的Telegram群:
https://t.me/joinchat/FUetyEVdFxMixCH6i2-pZQ

转发推特:
https://twitter.com/jeanduj48730511/status/939795228365647872

注:目前我们已向全球加密货币市场信息汇总网站coinmarketcap反映此事,部分媒体也在帮助我们收集相关证据。我们下一步会将此事在BBC曝光(HitBTC公司位于英国),并发布更多的帖子讨论此事。

5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: HitBTC AMM fraud on: December 10, 2017, 12:18:58 PM

Please read me!!!!!

You mst have been aware that hitbtc put up a fake amm on their site to swindle traders to buy unknownly, upon traders buying this coins, hitbtc came up with the news that  this coins are fake, even after collecting money for trading fees and taking btc/eth/usdt in exchange for this coins... On 9/12/2017 hitbtc wake up and took all this coins he sold to us, clear transactions history and withdraw this coins out of all those who bought this coins without official news or what so ever.. They in turn said that those who bought this token they sold are fraud and are illegal and as such they will not refund, ask yourself simple question you paid for a good from a shop the seller came back and forceful took the goods and refuse to refund, who is the fraud is it you that paid money for the goods or he who sold the fake goods, still came back took the goods and refused to give you your money back... How can someone who paid for a goods, he didn't break into the shop but paid for the good now become a fraud...

Hitbtc admitted that they made this mistake hence I have the prove of them admitting, if you actually admitted that you made a mistake, so who is then the fraud, is that not you, if you had made a mistake then refund to the buyers, that you goods and start over again and set things right ...hitbtc has said that they will not refund our money and we have promised to fight till the end, he who is already 5-0 at 89mins in football lose nothing so he is ready to attack...

Here is our campaign link help your follow traders as we are completely innocent, if this can happen to us it can happen to you, what this mean if you buy any token in hitbtc you are bound to buy hitbtc fake coin and no refund..

Let's us join hand and stop this bad act, in as much as you have not seen us, you are are follow trader we buy and sell to, don't let anyone exchange after collecting fees now claim, they will not pay back.

Please comment here in bitcointalk

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2556342.0

Comment here on hitbtc forum

https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2110/amm-issue-full-refund-requested/p1

Retweet here

https://twitter.com/iDebabrataSamal/status/939722601592586243

We are already in talk with coinmarketcap cmc

Also some media is also ready to help us provided we have evidence and we have alot already..

Our members are already pressing for bbc and others to buy our news..

We will post more link  soon...

Incidentally, I'm Chinese. And I've translated this into Chinese and reported it on China's largest blockchain and cryptocurrency forum 8btc.com:
http://8btc.com/thread-107828-1-1.html
6  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HitBTC is suspected of defrauding users' assets on: December 10, 2017, 12:11:47 PM
Please read me!!!!!

You mst have been aware that hitbtc put up a fake amm on their site to swindle traders to buy unknownly, upon traders buying this coins, hitbtc came up with the news that  this coins are fake, even after collecting money for trading fees and taking btc/eth/usdt in exchange for this coins... On 9/12/2017 hitbtc wake up and took all this coins he sold to us, clear transactions history and withdraw this coins out of all those who bought this coins without official news or what so ever.. They in turn said that those who bought this token they sold are fraud and are illegal and as such they will not refund, ask yourself simple question you paid for a good from a shop the seller came back and forceful took the goods and refuse to refund, who is the fraud is it you that paid money for the goods or he who sold the fake goods, still came back took the goods and refused to give you your money back... How can someone who paid for a goods, he didn't break into the shop but paid for the good now become a fraud...

Hitbtc admitted that they made this mistake hence I have the prove of them admitting, if you actually admitted that you made a mistake, so who is then the fraud, is that not you, if you had made a mistake then refund to the buyers, that you goods and start over again and set things right ...hitbtc has said that they will not refund our money and we have promised to fight till the end, he who is already 5-0 at 89mins in football lose nothing so he is ready to attack...

Here is our campaign link help your follow traders as we are completely innocent, if this can happen to us it can happen to you, what this mean if you buy any token in hitbtc you are bound to buy hitbtc fake coin and no refund..

Let's us join hand and stop this bad act, in as much as you have not seen us, you are are follow trader we buy and sell to, don't let anyone exchange after collecting fees now claim, they will not pay back.

Please comment here in bitcointalk

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2556342.0

Comment here on hitbtc forum

https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2110/amm-issue-full-refund-requested/p1

Retweet here

https://twitter.com/iDebabrataSamal/status/939722601592586243

Our telegram

https://t.me/joinchat/FUetyEVdFxMixCH6i2-pZQ

Retweet
https://twitter.com/jeanduj48730511/status/939795228365647872


Please we will need Chinese translators and other country translator..

We will need to push...

Join out telegram, all bloggers we will provide you with all evidence you need..


We are already in talk with coinmarketcap cmc

Also some media is also ready to help us provided we have evidence and we have alot already..

Our members are already pressing for bbc and others to buy our news..

We will see if cointelegram with love our news, I believe they will be interested if we have evidence as we do, guys guy contact cointelegram and other bitcoin news media..

We will post more link  soon...

Incidentally, I'm Chinese. And I've translated this into Chinese and reported it on China's largest blockchain and cryptocurrency forum 8btc.com:
http://8btc.com/thread-107828-1-1.html
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: HitBTC AMM fraud on: December 10, 2017, 03:20:30 AM
IT'S NOT ONLY AMM!!!
IT'S NOT ONLY AMM!!!
IT'S NOT ONLY AMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In fact the defrauding happens at all kinds of coins and tokens of HitBTC, including which are not based on or related with Ethereum!!!

This is my examine result:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2551767.0
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / HitBTC is suspected of defrauding users' assets on: December 09, 2017, 06:40:44 AM
[#Against HitBTC]

This Thursday, I deposited some SC(Siacoin) from other exchange platform to my "wallet address" of HitBTC. However, it hasn't arrived yet.
And I found that my SC wallet address was changed secretly while the transaction's ongoing. After I refresh the page, the wallet address changed again!
It means that I deposited my coin to an isolated address and I may lost my coin forever! It's caused by HitBTC secretly! I'm scammed by it!!!!

The transaction ID: 58391e66a6af9d6a3ebe367b5da0cdf3836f81895c1a068c7216e23efea88557
Old SC wallet address which I deposited my coin to: 1c75fd49c89ad9964c4383e73c1f239ca54a8fe3ed76511537533b70600f08364781c7c26ff8
Now my SC wallet address has been changed to: c91085412d56db556ed651020bb94fb9513fd5939dabdd70380c606053065a6d23680e906d47

I turned to HitBTC support for help, but I've not got any response. So I entered the forum of HitBTC: https://forum.hitbtc.com/

It's shocking that there are hundreds of topics about the same condition--deposit and withdrawal requests are delayed for several days or even weeks with no response:
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2125/12-days-of-waiting
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2156/xrp-has-not-been-deposited-for-3weeks
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2123/xvg-withdraw-5-days-still-not-receive-my-xvg-please-help-me
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/1478/nem-deposit-delayed-finally-credited-now-delayed-withdrawal
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2023/nem-withdrawal-delayed-for-17-days
And above-mentioned topics are only a few of these topics.

Some people even said that their assets disappeared mysteriously, and may be stolen:
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/1666/i-lost-my-hvn-after-move-it-to-main-account
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2086/stole-btc-from-my-main-account

And their assets were transferred out to a strange address, which may related with other platforms such as BITTREX:
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/comment/6452

In these topics, HitBTC support appears for some time. However, it's useless, no problems have been solved.

It should be noted that this problem cannot be blamed on Ethereum network congestion these days because the same condition happens at other coins which are not based on or related with Ethereum, such as SC, XRP, XEM, XVG and even BTC.

Now I can suspect that HitBTC is defrauding users' assets! I think we should launch a lawsuit against HitBTC, and retrieve our money!
Please help to up this topic:
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2210/lose-your-coin-token-somewhere-the-txid-hash-is-not-even-on-blockexplorer-or-etherscan-read-this
9  Economy / Service Discussion / HitBTC is suspected of defrauding users' assets on: December 09, 2017, 06:19:58 AM
[Updated]
Preliminary enquiries showed that the problem may be caused by the "AMM Fraud Event" of HitBTC, which happened a month ago.
View this topic to get more information:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2556342.0

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This Thursday, I deposited some SC(Siacoin) from other exchange platform to my "wallet address" of HitBTC. However, it hasn't arrived yet.
And I found that my SC wallet address was changed secretly while the transaction's ongoing. After I refresh the page, the wallet address changed again!
It means that I deposited my coin to an isolated address and I may lost my coin forever! It's caused by HitBTC secretly! I'm scammed by it!!!!

The transaction ID: 58391e66a6af9d6a3ebe367b5da0cdf3836f81895c1a068c7216e23efea88557
Old SC wallet address which I deposited my coin to: 1c75fd49c89ad9964c4383e73c1f239ca54a8fe3ed76511537533b70600f08364781c7c26ff8
Now my SC wallet address has been changed to: c91085412d56db556ed651020bb94fb9513fd5939dabdd70380c606053065a6d23680e906d47

I turned to HitBTC support for help, but I've not got any response. So I entered the forum of HitBTC: https://forum.hitbtc.com/

It's shocking that there are hundreds of topics about the same condition--deposit and withdrawal requests are delayed for several days or even weeks with no response:
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2125/12-days-of-waiting
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2156/xrp-has-not-been-deposited-for-3weeks
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2123/xvg-withdraw-5-days-still-not-receive-my-xvg-please-help-me
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/1478/nem-deposit-delayed-finally-credited-now-delayed-withdrawal
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2023/nem-withdrawal-delayed-for-17-days
And above-mentioned topics are only a few of these topics.

Some people even said that their assets disappeared mysteriously, and may be stolen:
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/1666/i-lost-my-hvn-after-move-it-to-main-account
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2086/stole-btc-from-my-main-account

And their assets were transferred out to a strange address, which may related with other platforms such as BITTREX:
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/comment/6452

In these topics, HitBTC support appears for some time. However, it's useless, no problems have been solved.

It should be noted that this problem cannot be blamed on Ethereum network congestion these days because the same condition happens at other coins which are not based on or related with Ethereum, such as SC, XRP, XEM, XVG and even BTC.

Now I can suspect that HitBTC is defrauding users' assets! I think we should launch a lawsuit against HitBTC, and retrieve our money!
Please help to up this topic:
https://forum.hitbtc.com/discussion/2210/lose-your-coin-token-somewhere-the-txid-hash-is-not-even-on-blockexplorer-or-etherscan-read-this
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