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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: SHIFT vs Substratum - battle to decentralize the web on: December 13, 2017, 06:42:59 PM
Unfair? Please. It's just speculation that he isn't working on anything else. Has anyone thought to ask him when his work contract runs out? Usually they buy these people on a yearly basis to run and operate these coin mills along with the NDA and everything.

Privacy is fine but evasiveness isn't. Why is shift the only crypto hiding behind a glass wall like ryver? Ever notice you don't see these people literally anywhere else?

The dodginess is pretty unparalleled. My money is on the hedge that these people haven't done a damn thing besides string an update or two into GitHub for months and they're just riding out their contract.

Soon as 2018 hits they're gonna drop this like a rock and ICO the whole thing. The real development probably left pre-Jan anyways.

That or the whole things fabricated to make it look like substratum has some competition.

It's easy to join the Ryver, there's no wall against going in and asking the team questions including Ralf himself. I don't understand what you mean by a contract running out. There's no CEO or company to have a contract with, it's an open source community project (they push from the private repo to Github at infrequent intervals so that competitor copying of the most current development is avoided). The fact that you think a contract is involved shows how little you know about the project. I am strongly convinced that Ralf has stuck by this project all this time because he has the skill and grit to finish it, and it will be extremely valuable. They're in this for the long haul, not for a cash grab, which is why they have not ICO'd.

Look it's like every time I say something about this project you roaches come out of the woodwork and tell me I don't know enough about it.

So put up some info maybe? If it isn't one deflection it's another. Like one of them even shot back at me about calling them out on the 20% premine when they changed to the lisk codebase. They go and say "oh I can't believe you spinned that into a bad thing" when the reality is they probably don't even have access to the private key of that wallet. Then to top it off one nerd even posts a public link to the website like they werent IP baiting me. Like if there's no plan for it and they do have the key why aren't they using it to get more shift?

Really ryver is a Java infested crapground, the devs are transient at best, and they keep telling you people "yeah we're working real hard guize" all while never even giving back anything substantial like nobodys ever seen that trick before.

There's really not much to go on here, besides the smarter holders of shift dumping on the dumber holders of shift while they exit. That's pretty apparent just looking at bittrex.

Just because you don't think there isn't a work contract here doesn't mean there isn't one.

The open source hasn't had a meaningful change in months and the biggest thing that came out was someone updated the explorer page so it would have all the polo updates from lisk.

I don't think it's a cash grab in the sense of grabbing a pile of cash all at once, but I'll be damned if it isn't a cash grab in the sense of just being a medium income constant revenue generating stream being strung along and quiet enough that nobody ever realizes it.

2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: SHIFT vs Substratum - battle to decentralize the web on: December 12, 2017, 01:16:23 PM
Can you tell me where to find information on shifts leadership and team? This is important and they seem like they’re in the shadows.  Kinda shifty.



I heard they don't like to do that so that nobody can know all the other crypto currency projects they are working on, like a coin mill.

The last one that went public with his information, Jan, did exactly this and the price tanked.

That seems quite unfair. The lead dev of Shift, Ralf, is not working on anything else as far as I know, although they collaborate with Lisk sometimes since Shift is a Lisk fork. Jan has never been part of the Shift team since he left to create his own fork clones that he ICO'd and my understanding is that the Shift team strongly disapproved of this behavior. As far as a desire for privacy is concerned, I respect that; and while I do understand their privacy may deter investment before there's proven development progress in the form of a working prototype, I believe that when the team's progress is proven with the public launch of the Phantom dApp prototype on the testnet before the end of this month, their privacy will not matter anymore: ultimately what matters is delivering on the project with something valuable.

Unfair? Please. It's just speculation that he isn't working on anything else. Has anyone thought to ask him when his work contract runs out? Usually they buy these people on a yearly basis to run and operate these coin mills along with the NDA and everything.

Privacy is fine but evasiveness isn't. Why is shift the only crypto hiding behind a glass wall like ryver? Ever notice you don't see these people literally anywhere else?

The dodginess is pretty unparalleled. My money is on the hedge that these people haven't done a damn thing besides string an update or two into GitHub for months and they're just riding out their contract.

Soon as 2018 hits they're gonna drop this like a rock and ICO the whole thing. The real development probably left pre-Jan anyways.

That or the whole things fabricated to make it look like substratum has some competition.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: SHIFT vs Substratum - battle to decentralize the web on: December 11, 2017, 12:14:13 AM
Can you tell me where to find information on shifts leadership and team? This is important and they seem like they’re in the shadows.  Kinda shifty.



I heard they don't like to do that so that nobody can know all the other crypto currency projects they are working on, like a coin mill.

The last one that went public with his information, Jan, did exactly this and the price tanked.
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