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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO vs ICD on: July 13, 2018, 09:22:43 PM
I D which means Initial Coin Distribution is just a form of bounty that reward you after you must have done some task. Fresco did not give out tokens for free, they asked us to do some online test which you would be paid in fres if only you pass.

In Fresco's case the question really boils down to: Is it more scam free to do an online test and get tokens, or is it safer to just send some ETH/BTC to earn those coins.

It probably depends on how much you value your time or the information you give away for online test? Perhaps in some cases its cheaper to just give some dust amount of ETH/BTC after all.

2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO vs ICD on: July 13, 2018, 09:08:30 PM
We all have heard about ICO's for a time now. This month i have been hearing more about ICD's. I belive Fresco is the first token to implement that.

What else is there?

For people who dont know:
ICO: Initial Coin Offering
ICD: Initial Coin Distribution

This is the first time i heard about ICD in 3 years . Whats the difference between two of them ? Or its just a name change for project not to follow regulations ? Probably will come something new soon . People like to find loopholes not to follow regulations

It might be a loophole for regulations, but it is a valid one.

In ICD tokens are given away without asking any crypto currency or fiat currency in return.

Perhaps a signup is required to earn the token, or some task which requires a little time or effort.
Perhaps another way to look at it is a Government can do an ICD and say its basicly universal basic income for citizens.
Perhaps a coin foundation can do the same and give away coins for free as universal basic income for new comers (new citizens of that coins network)


These are all valid points, specially giving away coins for new comers will be a second chance for people that miss the opportunity. This is especially good for POS coins.
3  Local / Servisler / Re: BTCTurk.com Ana Konu on: July 11, 2018, 09:21:59 PM
şu son güncellemeden dolayı yoruyor artık siteniz . Tasarım olarak değişimler güzeldir ama keşke öncesinde bir anket tarzı birşey yapsaydınız milletin görüşünü de önemsediğiniz belli olurdu.

Yorumunu paylaştığım yazar bakın daha önce ne paylaşmış:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384546.msg41409518#msg41409518

Hem rakip olup, hem de tarafsızmış gibi gelip başka borsanın başlığını kötülemek hoş değil. Çık aslanlar gibi, bizim borsa daha iyi de, ona lafım olmaz. Ama bu şekilde ortaya çıkmak olmaz...

Bir de şu post var:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4629953.msg41839450#msg41839450
Burada da powered by "kendi borsası" olan başka bir borsa sitesinin(Ekoin.net) fiyatını soruyor numaradan.
Aynı posttaki başlığı açan hesap da başka bir olay, powered by "......" malum borsa demiş. Başka bir sürü postta sanki yeni ortaya çıkan borsaya denk gelmiş gibi postlar mı ararsın, rakip postlarında karalamalar mı ararsın hepsi var.

Bu arada sadece BTCTurk değil, başka yeni borsaların da başlıklarında karalama çalışmaları yapıyor.
4  Local / Servisler / Re: Paribu.com - Türkiye'nin Bitcoin Borsası on: July 06, 2018, 05:37:47 AM
Paribu'ya yapılan bazı eleştiriler haklı ama bazı eleştiriler komedi ötesi, kimi yorumları da Türkiye'nin uluslararası teknolojik konumunu göz önüne alarak değerlendirmek gerekiyor.

Matching engine daha iyi olsun, emirler niye 5 dk dondu vs gibi şikayetler, Türkiye neden mikroçip, nükleer teknoloji, uçak vs üretemiyor demekle aynı kapıya çıkıyor. Genel olarak

teknolojik olarak geri kalmış ülkedeki bir borsada işlem yaparken, alt yapı, execution vs gibi konulardaki beklentilerinizi daha mütevazi tutmalısınız...

Kesinlikle katılmıyorum. Bu tamamen öğrenilmiş çaresizlik. Daha iyi matching engine istemek herkesin hakkı ve Turkiye’de bunu yapabilecek ekipler var, hatta yapılmışi da var ama bu post’u hijack etmemek icin yazmıyorum.
5  Local / Türkçe (Turkish) / Re: nakamotofamilyfoundation.org Satoshi Nakamoto Geri Mi Döndü on: June 30, 2018, 07:53:07 PM
Bir düzeltme yapayım kitap henüz yayında değil, yayında olan PDF yayınlanacak kitaptan bir alıntı.
6  Local / Türkçe (Turkish) / nakamotofamilyfoundation.org Satoshi Nakamoto Geri Mi Döndü on: June 30, 2018, 06:57:41 PM
nakamotofamilyfoundation.org sitesi ile Satoshi Nakamoto geri dönmüş gözüküyor. 26.06.2018'de private olarak register edilmiş ancak bazı bilgileri var:

OrganizationWhois Privacy Service
AddressP.O. Box 81226
CitySeattle
State / ProvinceWA
Postal Code98108-1226
CountryUS
Phone+1.2065771368

Kısaca yeni bir kitap yazmış. PDF olarak okuyabiliyorsunuz. Kitabın adını ise küçük bir bulmaca ile bulduruyor.

"HONNE AND TATAMAE"

Tahmin ettiğiniz gibi kitabın adı da Japonca anlamını tam anlamak için biraz Japon kültürünü anlamak gerekiyor sanırım, direkt karşılığı çok anlamlı olmayabilir.

Ne diyorsunuz, sizce Satoshi Nakamoto döndü mü?
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO vs ICD on: June 29, 2018, 06:44:32 PM
Both are both a bad thing what only spoil ICO is the level at which fake projects are increasing daily just to run with people ethereum and bitcoin. If a project is outstanding and decide to do ICO it's not a crime. But ICD is  risk free you only get the token or coin by doing specific tasks.

That's what i think too since ICD do not require you to invest with bitcoin or ethereum.

Is ICD really risk free in that regard? If you see an ICD and even if you do not understand what they are trying to solve... It seems like a good thing to get some, right?
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO vs ICD on: June 29, 2018, 03:05:49 PM
We all have heard about ICO's for a time now. This month i have been hearing more about ICD's. I belive Fresco is the first token to implement that.

What else is there?

For people who dont know:
ICO: Initial Coin Offering
ICD: Initial Coin Distribution

Whether Initial coin offering(ICO) or Initial coin distribution(ICD), these are just nomenclature that means almost the same thing in the cryptocurrency space. The most important issue is that coins or tokens are distributed evenly to the masses for adoption. I remember Mankind first project, implementing what it termed initial group offering(IGO).

Can you elaborate on IGO? What is the main difference?
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO vs ICD on: June 29, 2018, 02:45:56 PM
Oh, something new for me, I have never seen ICD. What is the main difference between them? And do you know about some recent ICD?
Thanks!

In ICO you need to invest fiat/crpto currency to earn the token. In ICD tokens are distributed for free. You can examine Fresco coin as an example.

I like the idea since there is not much possibility of scam.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO vs ICD on: June 29, 2018, 02:29:41 PM
I wonder what will be the difference in attracting coins and their distribution!

ICO are not free, but in ICD tokens are given away for free. No investment required, it's free an is free beer after all Smiley.

The deal is "is the beer" worth the effort? Well, that will depend on the whitepaper of the ICD i guess.


I will like to know what will be done before you can get the free token because atleast you should be able to put effort in something before you can get reward form it. If you do not do anything, than what does it offer in the crypto industry since there is no work to be done before you get the free coin

To earn ICD perhaps there are requirements like in air drops. For instance Fresco says in its web site that:

Details on what you should do to be eligible for the FRESCO ICD:
1. Fill out the form below using a valid frequently used email address

2. Enter your social media handles and follow FRESCO on those platforms,  we need your support to let more people know about us!
 
3. Pass the FRESCO Community Test, 100 questions (1 point each) about the art world and FRESCO's concepts. A passing grade is 80 points.

4.Provide your ERC-20 compatible Ethereum address – it should be an ERC-20 compatible wallet such as MyEtherWallet, MetaMask, Ethereum Wallet, Mist, etc. (Please note that we will NEVER ask you for your Private Key nor will we be asking for any donations from you in order to receive the Airdrop).

Every successful participation entry will receive 2,000 FRESCO Tokens.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO vs ICD on: June 29, 2018, 12:15:36 PM
so an ico i have to pay with Money or other cryptocurrencies to receive the token i want ti invest in. But whats then diference to an icd are Tokens for free ?
I think i did not get it 

Yes that's it, token are free in ICD. but off course like in ICO there is a whitepaper and a value proposition for the new token.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO vs ICD on: June 29, 2018, 12:04:43 PM
honestly I have never heard of ICD before. it's a platform about what and how to implement it I have not understood. but maybe thanks to your post I will find out a lot about ICD. I hope ICD can be a solution for ICO which lately contains a lot of scam. thanks.

In essence they are the same, but there is a huge difference which is in ICO you pay for token, in ICD you dont pay for tokens.

ICD feels safe because you are not actually investing with your money(Fiat or Crypto). Perhaps this will help to reduce scammers.

I only noticed that Fresco is using this approach. anyone know of another coin that's doing ICD?
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO vs ICD on: June 29, 2018, 11:45:21 AM
We all have heard about ICO's for a time now. This month i have been hearing more about ICD's. I belive Fresco is the first token to implement that.

What else is there?

For people who dont know:
ICO: Initial Coin Offering
ICD: Initial Coin Distribution
This is the first time I'm hearing about Initial Coin Distribution (ICD).

It looks to me like someone is trying to "clear the name" of ICOs just by introducing a synonym for Offering -> Distribution.  

I assume it's the same process as for ICOs or is it something different?

In ICO there is an offering from public to buy it. In ICD tokens are distributed without any charge.

So the main difference is you are not paying for the tokens its free.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO vs ICD on: June 29, 2018, 11:05:01 AM
We all have heard about ICO's for a time now. This month i have been hearing more about ICD's. I belive Fresco is the first token to implement that.

What else is there?

For people who dont know:
ICO: Initial Coin Offering
ICD: Initial Coin Distribution
At present, many people seem to be involved in ICDs, probably because of the proliferation of ICOs, and some waste projects flooding them, disrupting the market.

Are there any ICDs besides Fresco that is active? I see many ICO posts but not much ICD ones.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO vs ICD on: June 29, 2018, 09:34:40 AM
We all have heard about ICO's for a time now. This month i have been hearing more about ICD's. I belive Fresco is the first token to implement that.

What else is there?

For people who dont know:
ICO: Initial Coin Offering
ICD: Initial Coin Distribution

i didn't know that there are still ICD.
the problem is that it seems that develop a new coin/tokens require a lot of money, and it's an easy way find it with an ICO.

So you mean ICD will as attractive as ICO's for users? Also it is kinda scam proof since you are not investing anything, will that make the ICD more attractive then ICO's?
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO vs ICD on: June 29, 2018, 09:02:46 AM
I wonder what will be the difference in attracting coins and their distribution!

ICO are not free, but in ICD tokens are given away for free. No investment required, it's free an is free beer after all Smiley.

The deal is "is the beer" worth the effort? Well, that will depend on the whitepaper of the ICD i guess.

17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO vs ICD on: June 29, 2018, 08:45:39 AM
We all have heard about ICO's for a time now. This month i have been hearing more about ICD's. I belive Fresco is the first token to implement that.

What else is there?

For people who dont know:
ICO: Initial Coin Offering
ICD: Initial Coin Distribution

Bumping this, since i've posted on wrong topic before and that affected the visibility. I hope we can start a constructive thread about this.
18  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How to run seperate wallet on same server? on: June 28, 2018, 10:38:22 PM
You can decrypt the wallet data. That way if someone access to your machine can't use it.

I guess you mean to encrypt the wallet?



Hide the encryption key somewhere else and manually enter it whenever you run the wallet.

You would have to 'hide' the decryption key (either the same as the encryption key [symmetric encryption] or called private key [asymmetric encryption]).

Note that this is effictively not an option since the wallet has to run all the time on the server (depending on the application).
If automated transactions are made, the wallet has to be accessable to the node/software.

Sorry yes i meant encrypt there.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / ICO vs ICD on: June 28, 2018, 09:33:30 PM
We all have heard about ICO's for a time now. This month i have been hearing more about ICD's. I belive Fresco is the first token to implement that.

What else is there?

For people who dont know:
ICO: Initial Coin Offering
ICD: Initial Coin Distribution
20  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How to run seperate wallet on same server? on: June 13, 2018, 01:31:03 AM
You can decrypt the wallet data. That way if someone access to your machine can't use it. Hide the encryption key somewhere else and manually enter it whenever you run the wallet.
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