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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: eBay DELETED my auction for Avalon Miners because I accept Bitcoin! on: April 04, 2014, 12:26:43 AM
Industro, Don't sweat the small stuff, just sell them here  Grin

Well, if anybody wants them from here and would rather pay with bitcoins, just win the auction and we can arrange a bitcoin payment in lieu of GayPal. I have 100% positive feedback on eBay, so I'm a trustworthy seller, and we can do escrow if you still want added security, but you have to pay the additional escrow fee.

The auction is only up to $200 on eBay (that's 160 GH/sec for $200 - you will ROI in a month). Somebody's gonna make out pretty well. Cool  All the others on eBay are being offered/sold for a LOT more.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-2-AVALON-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miners-160-GH-s-Mining-Machines-NO-RESERVE-/111315935934

I'm not making any money on these. I paid $5,000 for these Avalons and then lost all their earnings to Gox. I'm just trying to offload them to someone who wants to get into mining. My wife wants them out of the house. Roll Eyes

I see so many auctions on eBay that openly accept bitcoin payments (mostly for miners). I may try use a JPEG or GIF of an image that says "PayPal Accepted Here" to avoid the keyword filters in future auctions. Do you think that would work (unless the auction got manually reported?) I'm just not good a taking "No, you can't use bitcoins here" for an answer! I wouldn't last a day in China. Tongue
2  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: eBay DELETED my auction for Avalon Miners because I accept Bitcoin! on: April 01, 2014, 09:59:03 PM
In the "free" US of A this is possible

In Germany there was a court ruling years ago which basically said - a company has no right to tell customers which payment method to use to settle the outstanding debt between two individuals. Especially can a company not force customers to exclusively use a payment method operated by the same company (antitrust stuff).

Because you are NOT buying from ebay, you are buying from another person!

So, the result is that 90% of US ebay auctions are Painpal only while in Germany and some other countries you can use whatever you want

Post your auction on ebay.de and you should be fine (trouble is, most Americans don't search for international offers, they think USA is center of the world)

Cheers
Leo

You are right on the money with your logic. And so is Germany!
3  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [FOR SALE] Two (2) AVALON ASIC Bitcoin Miners (160 GH/s) - IN HAND on: April 01, 2014, 09:52:55 PM
Brings back memories...Good luck with the sale.  Smiley

Yeah… tell me about it. I remember opening my first Avalon and feeling like a new father. "You're gonna make me so proud someday…"

Then Gox happened, and killed everything me and my little Avy worked for. Cry

Selling these Avalons feels like the end of an era for me… it is quite bittersweet - more bitter than sweet.

Wish things would have ended differently, but at least someone can score these bad boys super-cheap and still make a decent ROI.
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: eBay DELETED my auction for Avalon Miners because I accept Bitcoin! on: April 01, 2014, 09:36:57 PM
ToS violation, cry me a river.

Guys, I'm not disputing that eBay doesn't allow Bitcoins, or that I was caught trying to accept them for payment. Guilty as charged. You got me.

My argument is simply the anticompetitive nature of the PayPal regime and how implementing a simple integrated bitcoin escrow service (with an escrow fee) would not only be beneficial to the bitcoin ecosystem, but it would be lucrative for the eBay empire as well. An integrated bitcoin escrow service woven into the eBay auction payment process could be accomplished with little effort, and the payments would be just as secure as any online escrow service, if not more so. It would remove the need for trust. Seller could provide tracking number to prove package was sent, buyer can prove they paid the escrow.

eBay's/PayPal's policies seem NARROW MINDED and anti-competitive, and everyone defending eBay's ToS fails to see the bigger picture that can come for eBay if they embraced this technology, not fought against it.

It is thinking like this that holds down widespread adoption.

Look, if you guys are all fine with big corporate conglomerates limiting consumer freedom of choice, de-neutralitizing your Internet, forcing you into antiquated pigeoned-holed financial fee-laiden commerce, then I'm sure you'd all be happy with living in a place like Communist China.

For the rest of us, there is BITCOIN.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: eBay DELETED my auction for Avalon Miners because I accept Bitcoin! on: April 01, 2014, 05:58:12 AM
You can also use bitcoin associated sites for auction. It will gove you more targeted audience and will help you sell faster without worries.

Can you recommend some?
6  Economy / Auctions / [FOR AUCTION] Two (2) AVALON ASIC Bitcoin Miners (160 GH/s) - IN HAND on: April 01, 2014, 05:49:47 AM
[FOR AUCTION] Two (2) AVALON ASIC Bitcoin Miners (160 GH/s) - IN HAND

I'm selling two (2) Avalon ASIC Miners that run at a combined average of 160 GH/s. At $500 per bitcoin, these machines are still bringing in about $200 per month at current difficulty.

Items are listed on eBay with NO RESERVE, and the auction starts at $0.01. Auction lasts for 5 days.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-2-AVALON-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miners-160-GH-s-Mining-Machines-NO-RESERVE-/111315935934

I lost everything I mined to Mt. Gox when they went bankrupt, so I'm just trying to recoup some of my epic loss as I try to bow out gracefully from the Bitcoin world. I'll take anything I can get for these. I'm pretty desperate to sell because I've lost so much.   Cry

Please note the shipping cost is PER BOX (there are 2 boxes, as I am selling these AVALON ASICS as a PAIR).

With no reserve and a 1 cent starting bid, someone is going to get a sweet deal.  Wink

I'll accept PayPal (or bitcoins, for those of you who hate PayPal).

I have 100% Positive Feedback on eBay, and I plan on keeping that record. Bid in confidence.

This is a great opportunity for new miners to get in with minimal investment.

Thanks for looking. Happy bidding.

P.S. - If you don't live in the U.S. and want these, contact me through eBay and we can arrange for you to pay the extra overseas shipping.
7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: eBay DELETED my action for Avalon Miners because I accept Bitcoin! on: April 01, 2014, 05:39:03 AM
EBay, and Apple thinks bitcoin as there rival and uses what ever they can to suppress it. And yours is just a case of the same,.
Mentioning alternative payment methods won't get your listing removed. But you'll have to talk outside the eBay personal messages. They might be watching it.

So do they have people screening every auction? Or is there some automated process that just sniffs out keywords that violate their payment terms?

How do they filter out stuff like this?
8  Economy / Service Discussion / eBay DELETED my auction for Avalon Miners because I accept Bitcoin! on: April 01, 2014, 05:30:24 AM
eBay DELETED my auction for Avalon Miners because I accept Bitcoin!

I only mentioned in the auction description that I accept bitcoins and they pulled my auction citing a "violation of payment policies."  They claimed that buyers and sellers "aren't protected" because transactions can't be proven.

I beg to differ! The blockchain is public proof hat a transaction occurred, and the buyer (or seller) can easily prove they own the address. In the event of a dispute, if eBay would just require sellers to post their receive address, a buyer can prove they own the address that sent funds to it.

I think this policy is simply an anticompetitive strong-arm approach to further secure PayPal's dominance in the payment processing industry.

If anyone is curious, the auction in question is here (I had to re-list it):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-2-AVALON-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miners-160-GH-s-Mining-Machines-NO-RESERVE-/111315935934

I mentioned in the revised auction description to contact me with questions about "alternate payment methods." Do you think they'll pull my auction for that too?
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / eBay DELETED my auction for Avalon Miners because I accept Bitcoin! on: April 01, 2014, 05:21:27 AM
eBay DELETED my auction for Avalon Miners because I accept Bitcoin!

I only mentioned in the auction description that I accept bitcoins and they pulled my auction citing a "violation of payment policies."  They claimed that buyers and sellers "aren't protected" because transactions can't be proven.

I beg to differ! The blockchain is public proof hat a transaction occurred, and the buyer (or seller) can easily prove they own the address. In the event of a dispute, if eBay would just require sellers to post their receive address, a buyer can prove they own the address that sent funds to it.

I think this policy is simply an anticompetitive strong-arm approach to further secure PayPal's dominance in the payment processing industry.

If anyone is curious, the auction in question is here (I had to re-list it):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-2-AVALON-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miners-160-GH-s-Mining-Machines-NO-RESERVE-/111315935934

I mentioned in the revised auction description to contact me with questions about "alternate payment methods." Do you think they'll pull my auction for that too?
10  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [FOR SALE] Two (2) AVALON ASIC Bitcoin Miners (160 GH/s) - IN HAND on: April 01, 2014, 05:05:04 AM
NOTE: I updated the URL in the above post...

eBay "DELETED" my previous auction (for these Avalon units) because I listed "bitcoins" as an acceptable payment method in the description (which is apparently a violation of their payment policy).  Roll Eyes

I had to revise the auction description, but I want to let you guys all know that I'll gladly accept bitcoins at Bitstamp exchange rate for the final auction close price (I can't post this on eBay).
11  Economy / Computer hardware / [FOR SALE] Two (2) AVALON ASIC Bitcoin Miners (160 GH/s) - IN HAND on: March 30, 2014, 11:32:34 PM
[FOR SALE] Two (2) AVALON ASIC Bitcoin Miners (160 GH/s) - IN HAND

I'm selling two (2) Avalon ASIC Miners that run at a combined average of 160 GH/s. At $500 per bitcoin, these machines are still bringing in about $200 per month at current difficulty.

Items are listed on eBay with NO RESERVE, and the auction starts at $0.01.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-2-AVALON-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miners-160-GH-s-Mining-Machines-NO-RESERVE-/111315935934

I lost everything I mined to Mt. Gox when they went bankrupt, so I'm just trying to recoup some of my epic loss as I try to bow out gracefully from the Bitcoin world. I'll take anything I can get for these. I'm pretty desperate to sell because I've lost so much.   Cry

Please note the shipping cost is PER BOX (there are 2 boxes, as I am selling these ASICS as a PAIR).

With no reserve and a 1 cent starting bid, someone is going to get a sweet deal.  Wink

I'll accept PayPal (or bitcoins, for those of you who hate PayPal).

I have 100% Positive Feedback on eBay, and I plan on keeping that record. Bid in confidence.

This is a great opportunity for new miners to get in with minimal investment.

Thanks for looking. Happy bidding.

P.S. - If you don't live in the U.S. and want these, contact me through eBay and we can arrange for you to pay the extra overseas shipping.

12  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is Gox really doing something? on: February 22, 2014, 11:27:27 PM
No, withdraws are not happening.

MTGox has continually thorough the shutdown made a small number of what appear to be dust-cleanup transactions. Thats all these appear to be...

Ironically, someone of them like TXID: ed7ffa58fef651adaf1281ad10e98a4399eb2be40950345c7ccb7c8f76f067e1 in their liast are spending immature coinbases  (45d45286bac04311684ab7716ab170b50781cde6b094d9a644fb89ca07ae6888:31 is a coinbase with 67 confirms as I write this) and so it's not a valid transaction.  So even after all this time and weeks of outages for fixes MTGox is still producing invalid transactions.

The ntxid field is somewhat new, I first noticed it there a week-ish ago.

THIS. ^  +1,000,000

I had BTC transactions stuck on Mt. Gox for almost 2 weeks before this whole "transaction malleability scapegoat" was first announced by Gox as being the cause of their transaction difficulties. The fact is, transaction malleability had nothing to do with my stuck transactions.

According to http://skanner.net/MtGox/mtgox_tx.php (back when Mt. Gox's API was providing useful information), my transactions were failing because the TX file size was too large ("TL") for the assessed fee, due mainly to the sheer vast number of dust inputs, many of which I'd wager were byproducts of addresses with immature coins.

It seems to me that spending mature coins, and/or assigning adequate TX fees for large transaction sizes would have solved this problem weeks ago. I really think that the folks at Gox are seriously incompetent, not necessarily scam artists. The whole "transaction malleability" scheme was simply a diversion to distract their angry customers from Gox's own ineptitude and/or negligence.

The fact that Mt. Gox's system is still producing invalid transactions that don't make it to the blockchain is indisputable evidence that the very problem that was preventing successful transactions weeks ago has NOT been fixed yet, despite the implementation of their beloved NXTID.  Roll Eyes

So, this is Mt. GOX's MISTAKE, and it has NOTHING to do with a problem with the BITCOIN PROTOCOL!!!

But, "Flaw in the Bitcoin System" makes a catchier CNN Money headline than "Mt. Gox Doesn't Know How to Code" and therein lies the diversion.

Mt. Gox - get your shit together an fix your broke-ass transaction problems. You are ruining people's lives because you are too smug to own up to your own shortcomings.
13  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: February 20, 2014, 07:01:23 PM
Mark needs to issue an official statement regarding Mt. Gox's solvency NOW.

There are just too many warning signs to ignore. We need to put pressure on the media to pressure Gox. We need to swarm Gox's IRC channel. We need to pursue legal recourse and demand a explanation and ETA for uninhibited withdrawals. If there is no BTC or fiat to withdrawal, then Mark needs to state such and explain where it all went.

These are people's lives and wellbeing that are at stake here. By remaining silent, Mt. Gox is doing more than just harming the public perception of Bitcoin, they are effectively causing undue hardship on people's lives. Things are going to turn violent soon.

I've been trying to pull my BTC out of Gox since well before all this "transaction malleability" crap even came up. Transactions repeatedly failed due to too many inputs and too low of a TX fee, NOT due to transaction malleability.

If Gox is insolvent (which seems more and more likely), then they owe us the Goddamn truth and stop docking us all around with this "we're moving to a virtual imaginary office" horse shit.

Mark - ARE YOU SOLVENT OR NOT?  PROVE IT. Show us the addresses that are under your control.
14  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Broken BTC Withdrawals on Gox -- 2230 EST, 28 JAN: 1654 broken TX!! on: February 04, 2014, 03:59:15 AM
Guys, after only 2 attempts by Mt. Gox to send my failed "large" bitcoin withdrawal from over 10 days ago, I can see that this TX problem is simply not a "priority" for Mt. Gox. After all, we only represent a "small number of users" and while some people's smaller withdrawals seem to trickle through after 6 or 7 days, the rest of us are watching the list of failed Mt. Gox transactions exceed 1,550 ($33.3 million USD @ Bitstamp). This is $1 million USD more than just this morning, even though the value per coin has dropped!  Shocked

The writing is on the wall. We aren't getting our money. I've waited 10 days, and all I get from support is generic boiler-plate responses.

So, we NEED to get legal representation to seek resolution on our behalf before Mt. Gox goes completely insolvent and we lose everything. My life's savings is tied up in my "final" Mt. Gox withdrawal (I was pulling out all my money because I don't trust them anymore) and here we are... with no one to turn to.

If you have any knowledge of, experience with, or contacts who can recommend an attorney based in Japan who (1) speaks english, (2) works with financial fraud cases, and (3) who is willing to take on a Bitcoin-related case, please post this information here.

I, for one, am willing to contribute a portion of my recovery for the services of a good lawyer if they can recoup our hostage coins. I have already contact my personal attorney, and he'll be drafting a letter on my behalf, but he is not based in Tokyo. We need someone LOCAL to Mt. Gox who can take this to court if need be.

Please post anything you can about identifying a lawyer to represent our interests...
15  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox (alleged) dust problem, solutions? on: February 04, 2014, 03:39:49 AM
and what about those marked LT?

LT = Large Transaction Size - The number of transactions on the input/outputs over 1662 may be far too many for the applied fee meaning they will never be processed. You may need to get MtGox to double spend this and create a smaller transaction size.



My transaction was listed as "LT" (Large Transaction) on the Skanner.net/mtgox too. Seems to me like large transactions can easily be remedied by increasing the transaction fee, am I correct? I'd happily pay a larger TX fee if it meant getting my damn coins to finally come through after 10 days of waiting!
16  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Broken BTC Withdrawals on Gox -- 2230 EST, 28 JAN: 1654 broken TX!! on: February 03, 2014, 02:24:03 PM
I contacted a lawyer in Japan about MtGox withdrawal "problems".

I was surprised he already knew the case because someone already contacted him about it Friday. He said he will be able to take the case. Also, customers grouping dramatically increases chances of success. If you are interested, please reply to this post or PM me.

We must act fast, as time flies, our chances of getting our monies back decreases significantly.

I have a "very sizable" bitcoin transaction that has been hung up in a failed Mt. Gox transaction for 10 days now. I was attempting to remove all my coins from Mt. Gox (because I have lost all my confidence in them) and the transaction never made it to the blockchain.

I have received several (3) generic "boiler-plate" responses from Mt. Gox Support (the same message they posted on their Support Forum about how "this is only affecting a small number of users," etc. But I am watching the total value of stuck transactions exceed 40,000 bitcoins (that's $32.3 million USD at Bitstamp prices) and 41,000 bad transactions.

We NEED legal action before Mt. Gox absconds with all our money. The problem is getting WORSE. not better.

btcinsight, can you please post the lawyer's contact information here so we may all send him/her the specific details of our individual cases? This could turn into a class-action situation very quickly if Mt. Gox doesn't reply to legal notification.

It the lawyer English-speaking?
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