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I have 1 question for this coin, what is the planed PoW PoS Ratio i have found nothing about that.
To the point that the coin value is crashing down, its not a wonder couse much peoples have mined the coin to buy miners and now they have spend there coins and fibonaci has to make the coins to dollars so there is a big ammount of coins that needs to get into $. The question is can the coin get back to old highs after this phase or is it stick to the low rates then.
And maybe i have a nice solution for the to big pools problem: Maybe it is possible to allow to get only 1 PoW out of 5 or so. Then its not longer the biggest pool that counts couse a smaller pool in the top 5 gets the same pool earnings and the miners get more for mining on a smaller pool in the top 5. That reduces the overall hash rate a bit but makes the coin even more Multipool secure. Couse even if a multipool puts in 100 Mhs it can only get 1 out of 5 so the lowest hash rate out of the top 5 counts.
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I just looked at the hash rates of PoW dedicatedpool has about 153 from 169 mhs maybe its a good idea to put in a system that didnt allow any pool to mine 2 blocks in a row. over night it was more extrem with about 153 from 154 mhs. is it possible to put in a such a system? otherwise the hash rates are centralized to much.
and for all the guys that want to have configs i have 2 for my 7850:
day config that allows me to use the computer while mining(50khs pc full usable):
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
cgminer.exe --scrypt-jane --sj-nfmin 4 --sj-nfmax 30 --sj-time 1388949883 -o pool -u user -p password -I 10 -g 2 --lookup-gap 1 -w 256 --auto-fan --thread-concurrency 4096 --gpu-engine 1050 --gpu-fan 25-80 --gpu-memclock 1167 --gpu-powertune 20 --gpu-vddc 1.18 --net-delay
and night config when i sleep (73khs but pc unusable):
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
cgminer.exe --scrypt-jane --sj-nfmin 4 --sj-nfmax 30 --sj-time 1388949883 -o pool -u user -p password -I 19 -g 1 --lookup-gap 2 -w 256 --auto-fan --thread-concurrency 16384 --gpu-engine 1050 --gpu-fan 25-80 --gpu-memclock 1167 --gpu-powertune 20 --gpu-vddc 1.18 --net-delay
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I cant speak for quark, keccak,.. i have read a bit about scrypt-Jane and so on but i have to say i dont realy understand why all the coins increase the NFactor and not the rFactor. The N Factor makes Scrypt need more Memory and more Processing Power, its a bit like just reducing the kh/s value. Why not simple increase the rFactor wich only increase the Memory needed. In my Theory that would make it realy hard to make an Asic Couse if you have lets say 1 GByte Memory needed per processing unit, then it would be a question of free Memory and not of parallel Processes anymore. I think there must be a Reason i just dont understand it  But back to the Point of the new Coins. Most new Coins are Pump and Dump. So if the Peoples have there Original to create the new Coins from, its just an easy Process to get the new Coin. Things like Asic resitance and so on are not importand for a Pump and Dump Coin. To get this things in the Coin is only a waste of time for this kind of Coins. But with time more and more Coins will have the new Methods. |
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Wanna sell 1 Air just write me a Massage with your offer  How much do you want ?  hehe I don`t know if I have enought 0.00115 in that Range |
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Wanna sell 1 Air just write me a Massage with your offer |
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Ein guter Schritt. Vor gar nicht so langer Zeit hatte ich auch so ein Gedankenspiel und mich einfach mal aus Neugierde schlau gemacht was zu so einer Bank nötig währe. Das Resultat war in DE ist sowas wohl derzeit noch nicht machbar. Eventuell wenn man Multimillionär ist aber sonnst keine Chance.
Gut das nun jemand den Anfang gemacht hat da kann man nur hoffen das es klappt. Immerhin hätte das das Potential das Bankensystem zu revolutionieren.
Die große Gefahr bei deren Konzept sind halt Kurseinbrüche beim Bitcoin. Also toi toi toi das es funktioniert.
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Auch wenn es mir teilweise leid tut für die Leute die durch eine MTGox pleite Geld verloren haben, kann man im großen und ganzen doch eigentlich froh sein das das ganze hin und her ein Ende hat. Wenn die Gerüchte stimmen und es wirklich einfach nur ein reBranding gibt hoffe ich das die Leute nicht wieder dort hin rennen. Die Schuld für das ganze sehe ich an 2 Stellen. MTGox weil die einfach nicht in der Lage waren trotz permanenter Reduzierung der Reserven statt ausbau dieser entweder das Problem zu beheben oder ihr Model für Gescheitert zu erklären ohne das großer Schaden entsteht. Aber genauso bei den Usern, da es grade den Großanlegern schon lange hätte klar sein müssen das dort eine große Gefahr besteht alles zu verlieren. Entweder man war bereit diese Gefahr einzugehen dann sollte man nun auch nicht über den Verlust klagen, oder eben nicht dann hätte man schon lange die Gelder dort herrausziehen müssen.
Zumindest gibt es nun eine "finale" News die die ganze Geschichte beendet und die Bitcoinwelt kann bald wieder ohne diese dauernden MTGox negativ News vorrangehen. Ich sehe darin keinen wirklichen dauerhaften Schaden für den BTC. Allerdings sollte das ganze dem ein oder anderen vielleicht die Augen öffnen. Nicht was den BTC selbst angeht sondern eher was die Gesellschaftsformen der Anbieter angeht denen man sein Geld anvertraut. Wenn die Zahlen stimmen und der Chef des Haufens 300kBTC schwer ist währe bei einer Gesellschaftsform mit privater Haftung er der Einzigste der das Geld verspielt hat. Aber bei einer GmbH, Limited usw sollte jedem Kunden klar sein das es nach hinten losgehen kann dort sein Geld zu bunkern egal ob als BTC oder als Fiat.
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i looked at bridgewalker and have seen its based on the mtgox api. Couse there is no other information on the website i think they use MTGox as exchange. Not realy a good solution at this time.
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Its a simple System you just have to understand 2 Types of Orders. 1. the Limit Order: You put a buy order at a price where at the moment nobody wants to sell for and in the moment someone wants to sell for that price you buy. 2. a market Order: You put a buy order on the price someone want to sell, so you instantly buy from him. with sell orders its the same thing. A little example: Person A wants to sell 1 BTC for a price of 500USD but in that moment the price is at 450 USD so noone buys it now. He put a Limit order at 500 USD and his coins are in the order book from that moment. Person B later wants to buy 1 BTC. At this moment Person As order is the cheapest in the Order Book and B decides to buy for the 500USD. Then he makes a market Order and the trade is perfect. Person A gets 500USD and Person B gets 1BTC. If Person B wants to buy 2 BTC then he buys 1 BTC from Person A for the price of 500 and lets say the next in the order book sells 20BTC for 501 then he buys the other 1 BTC for 501. I hope that helps you |
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you guy forget 2 Things. First of all he only said that Paypal is able to use multiple Currencys not that paypall is planing to implement anything. And 2nd just look at the Paypall AGB then you see Paypal dont allow to buy bitcoins with Paypal. Why should Paypal change that? That makes no sense. The only reason to hold this dream up is that he has not sayd "We dont want Bitcoin to kill Paypal, so we dont stop fighting agains Bitcoin."
There will be a time for Bitcoin to get in this markets but thats somewhere in the future and not now.
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I had a few thoughts about the thing in time But first of all I dont like the idea that any State can give out there own proof to the Peoples in it. Couse there are states out there wich I dont think would give real Data or would you want to let a state like North Korea to have the right to say how much money they get to there Peoples from the global System. I think that would make trouble. So the authority has to be a real neutral thing. Best would be an automated System. Something like a fingerprint that is used for authentication, and if a new fingerprint is detected its getting added automaticaly. But something that is not exploitable. To find something there needs a bit more abstract thinking I think. But in the end it will possible not work without an authority. Maybe there is a way to decentralise the authority but this is a realy hard task too. But the last But Big Things mostly needs to handle big Problems first. |
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Mir wäre wichtig, dass meine private Keys niemals in fremde Hände geraten und ich meine BTC immer selbst verwalten kann. 1. Ist die Karte weg ist das Guthaben weg. Würde mir eine Bank so eine EC Karte anbieten würde ich die auslachen.
Frag doch bei deiner Bank mal nach einer Geldkarte. Bei der Postbank ist die karte standartmäßig auch als Geldkarte zu nutzen. Sie ist genau das was du hier anprangerst. 2. 300 Meter reichweite. Was ist mit den Leuten die weit weit draussen auf dem Land leben.
Dazu kommt das die Karte das perfekte mittel zur Überwachung darstellt.
Es darf einfach keine kontaktlosen bzw nicht optische Übertragungsmechamismen geben. Nur bei kontakt oder direktem optischen ablesen (wie bei barcodes etc.) darf erkannt werden dass da etwas ist, sonst würde ich nichtmal dran denken mir sowas zuzulegen Der Chip der als Geldkarte dient ist aber auch nur für Kleinbeträge gedacht. Zum Zigaretten holen usw. Aber wenn es um das eigentliche Konto geht, also das wo das Gehalt drauf überwiesen wird usw. dann sieht die Welt anders aus. Im Bereich der Pre Paid Cards ists dann halt wieder eine frage der Akzeptanz, ich glaub kaum das (um mal beim Beispiel der Zigaretten zu bleiben) Zigarettenautomaten bald eine Internetanbindung kriegen nur um Bitcoin Kurse abfragen zu können. Was die Kontaktlosen nicht optischen Übertragungswege angeht muss ich dir Recht geben ausser es gibt einen Knopf oder ähnliches den man zur Übertragung gedrückt halten muss. Aber optimal sind optische Methoden. Aber ich denke da wir hier ein extrem weites Feld haben was die Benutzergruppe angeht sollte erst einmal klar sein welchen Teil davon ein System bedienen soll. Solange die Menschen in der großen Masse nicht in Bitcoin rechnen sondern in Euro Dollar etc. wird die Masse auch weiterhin die klassischen Währungen für ihre normalen Einkäufe(Lebensmittel usw) nutzen. |
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Mal abgesehen vom fehlenden Impressum hat die Bitcoin Card auch ein paar grundlegende Probleme.
1. Ist die Karte weg ist das Guthaben weg. Würde mir eine Bank so eine EC Karte anbieten würde ich die auslachen.
2. 300 Meter reichweite. Was ist mit den Leuten die weit weit draussen auf dem Land leben.
Dazu kommt das die Karte das perfekte mittel zur Überwachung darstellt.
Aber mal zum eigentlichen Thema.
Das einfachste um Coins auch für den normalen Zahlungsverkehr zugänglich zu machen währe eine art EC/Maestro/Visa Karte die auf ein in Bitcoin geführtes Konto zugreift und beim Bezahlen automatisch wechselt. Auch die Umsetzung währe in der Theorie gar nicht so kompliziert, aber in der Praxis sind Bitcoins leider noch zu extremen Schwankungen ausgesetzt um von der Masse als normale Kontowährung genutzt zu werden. Dazu kommt das wenn man mal den Umsatz der Tauschbörsen betrachtet und das bei einer relativ breiten Verbreitung dazukommende Transfervolumen grade zum Monatsanfang und zur Monatsmitte(Lohnzahlungen), dann kann dies sich sehr schnell so auswirken das durch die Massenkäufe zu dieser Zeit der Kurs extrem steigt nur um dann in der Zeit zwischen diesen beiden Zeiten in denen das Geld hauptsächlich ausgegeben wird stark zu fallen. Am Ende hätte die Nutzer dieses Systems dadurch permanente Verluste was ja auch nicht der Sinn der Sache sein kann. Das würde also erst Sinn machen wenn auch die Supermärkte etc( alle stellen bei denen bezahlt wird) ihre Konten in Bitcoins führen würden. Aber wenn es soweit ist ist die Umrechnung in Euro/Dollar usw auch wieder sinnlos.
Aber mal ganz abgesehen davon ist das Bezahlen in Bitcoins im Supermarkt auch nicht wirklich massentauglich. Einfach weil die Coins zuviel Wert sind. Der Normalbürger bezahlt lieber 1,99 als 0,0013412 wobei es bei einer weiteren bis zur Alltagsmassenwährung noch ein paar 0en mehr werden dürften die erstmal gezählt werden müssen.
Fazit: Als Onlinewährung und um den Banken etwas Feuer unterm Hintern zu machen ist der Bitcoin genial, aber als Massenwährung für alle von der Omi bis zum Grundschuljungen der an am Kiosk mal eben für 20 Cent etwas kauft ist er derzeit leider noch ungeeignet.
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What you are proposing is called "Basic income" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income). It's a nice idea and I had the same to implement in a crypto-currency. But indeed the problem to solve is how to implement the Proof Of Unique Human (POUH), so that you can send the money to that account. There is no simple solution that would not involve the state collaboration. If you have the state collaboration, then you could just issue a citizen coin address with every ID paper. That way you have a one to one relation between citizens and those special address. So in the crypto-currency you will have normal address like today that can be created at will, and citizen address that the authority can create with a special master key. Before someone scream "state control", the only power the state would have, is to say if someone is citizen or not, the rest is automatically handled by the crypto network. About anonymity : of course the citizen address will be not anonymous. But once you receive your money, you can send it to normal address and then make it anonymous by using some system like zerocoin. Maybe I have an idea how to fix that passes problem. With an autority that handles this, this authority can give out a kind of own passport. Nothing big its just for the Coin things. The Users then would send theyr Name+State+Adress and receive there personal hash on the Postal way. The problem is that postal thing costs a bit, but it cant be the world. The Problem is to have that you need an Database to check if an user is registering twice. And this Database have to be realy safe. Does anybody here now a way to crypt any field in a safety that a check for double is possible but not a direkt read out? i have to read a bit more about that. |
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the crash of the money system we know is only a question of time. couse of the higher and higher interests on interests. We would need to have growing of the economy that is as high as the growing of the interests of banks to prefent that. but thats impossible, couse economy growing needs physical place on earth and we dont have unlimited of it. the interests grow unlimited. anytime the economic growing isnt as high as the interests growing a bigger part of the economic earning is taken by the interests. Mathematicaly in about 45 years the interests are that high, that even if we would have had the economic growing taken to the maximum possible there would be a higher amount of interests then economic earnings. or to say it in a more clear way there is more money to be paid to not get bankrupt for anyone then is available.
And to explain why money for everyone is so importand to have a fair world. economic is helpt out more and more by technology, robots and so on. A faculty wich needed 5000 workers 20 years ago, can only have 3-4 today and the rest amount of work is done by robots. the faculty dont earn less money couse of that, it earns more couse robots are cheaper then workers. and these robotic workers take place in more work places. so the needed amount of workers becomes less and less. lets stay at the faculty example. to give all these 500 peoples a work in facultys that only needs 5 peoples and produce same amount. we would need to buld 1000 facultis and have the amount of product multiplied by 1000. that would mean that any product has to have a price amount of 1/1000 of the original price to be possible to be sold. and that makes the facultis not profitable anymore. so to give the faculties a profit there must be peoples without work. If the 5000 peoples now fight for one of these 5 jobs, couse they need it fo buy food and so on. The faculty can give out earning rates and working conditions that are real bad, the peoples have to accept to get food. But if all these peoples have a solid ground earning that pays food and so on. The faculty has to get higher earning rates and better work conditions to to 5 persons couse otherwise they dont have workers. the next point is instead of these 5 full time workers with lets say 9 work hours a day, there can be 15 workers with 3 hours a day too or 45 with 1 hour days or 315 with 1 hour per week. for the faculty the result in the end is nearly the same. doesnt it sound nice to you when all the 5000 profite from the technology instead of only the faculty owner. and have more free time couse of the robots. more time for family, for thinks they like to do (for example playing with the kids, or making musics or arts) That brings the humanity to a much higher cultural level then peoples that work and sleep like robots and allways fear to loose the job. the only ones that realy loose on that are the peoples wich today where born extremly rich and just life from the interests from birth on. couse they dont have the privileg to have more then all the others without doing something anymore.
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Kiliz lets make an example in dollar just couse coins values are realy abstract as long as there is no coint.
lets say everybody gets 1000 dollars a month. Then you as a worker get these 1000 and the money from work lets just say 2000 from work. then you have 3000 a month if you go and just let it wait until the year is over you still have 2400 from that. but if you work with that coins and spend them for anything you want you have more. and if you realy just wanna hold that value you can buy gold or whatever with it. so the money flows in the system is given and you have your money in gold ready to make money again when you need it. or you can put it into an investment and earn with it. but what you better not do is just let it be out of the system couse that is what brings deflation to a system. and deflation normaly end with higher deflation in the normal market that brings productions to produce less couse less peoples buy things. that brings more workless peoples. and so on and so on and in the end you have not enough products for the peoples couse noone buys and the system crashs.
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Hello
Crypto Currencies are on there way to get there fixed place in the world. But this brings us to a few problems. Couse of the anonym charakter of coins there is no tax for the states and the normal currencies (dollar,euro,..) are on there way to a system crash. So that can be a point where crypto coins can get real big in the world.
But what do we have then? A financial System without taxes, that means no state. No Police, no Streetbuilding, no social care, simple and clear pure Anarchie. I think thats the last thing peoples like to have.
So here is the Plan:
Lets discuss together of how a coin has to be to realy work as a big world leading curency with all the things that it needs, a pool to pay states taxes, a social system to bring the more and more mechanical done work to a benefit to all not to a few, a max coin value that increases with the users and so on.
Everybody who is interrested in such a discussion is invited to come to socialcoin.freeforums.org.
The main Problem to solve at the moment is: How to become a worldwide working 1 social coins getting account for 1 user authentication, mutliple accounts for normal use have to be possible. So if someone has an idea on that it would be nice to share
There is one big point that is being missed here. Money isn't taxed! It is the goods, services, wages of the workers etc, that are taxed. Even if lets say a cryptocurrency is adopted in the future to replace a nations fiat currency. It will, and can be taxed in some way. You will go to work to earn this currency and be taxed. You will buy things in the store and be taxed. You will still pay tax on fuel, cigarettes, alcohol. This won't change. These currencies only give back power to the people over their own wealth. Governments may fall, banks may end up being, well...bankrupt, and the nation where you live may well be overthrown by anarchy for a while, if it isn't already. But eventually you will be taxed someday, somehow by somebody. Edit: P.S. We already have what you are proposing, its called 'the current fiat monetary system', what are you? A banker? A President? A King? A Queen? Are you realising you may be about to fall off the ladder? You can't beat us, so come join us  Thanks for the statement there is much truth in it, the point that is not taxed is the money itself. That is a problem couse I want the System work for the masses, I think every person should have the same right to make work for a better life or even not. So i dont like the concept of born rich stay rich, born poor stay poor. What is also not taxable with coins is speculations with coins. Thats same we have today. Couse of more and more technologie killing working places and the difference beetween born in a rich land or poor land, a system needs something like a money for everyone thats why i need a way for an authentication to have 1 account per person to get that money. But dont worry I dont want everybody to have the same amount all the time, that cant work. Everybody must be able to become more if he works more. But just couse a grand grand Father worked more, no everybody has to work for his own status. I dont want peoples to stay rich over generations couse they are rich one time. Equal chances for everybody. I know the most peoples think if you pay free money to anyone noone want to work, but the point is most peoples dont want to stay at home all day. They want to make something, some produce Musik, others Arts, others like Programming, the next ones like to work on cars. with free money to everyone noone has to have a bad paid work that makes him ill. Everyone can decide if he wants to make what he is good in or if he dont find something in that buisnes something where he can say hey I earn enough so i like to do. That is realy good for the cultural healthy and has the effekt that the peoples in more poor countries get the same standart the peoples in rich countries have. 1% of each coin mined gets sold and donated to a charity automatically
sound nice but the problem there is what kind of charity to choose. Ok and a small update about an interresting chat talk about that: 1. Clients can mine automaticaly in a small way so the 51% problem is not that big. 2. all coins paid out instantly and a fixed amount of coins for every new athented account comes to the pool. not to that account directly, it will be added to the decreased coins and this value goes for a big part to the masses. So the System has more coins in it with more users. 3. an % transaktion fee brings the spekulation tax to the users. most users make + with that, only the big fishs give parts of there winnings to the masses that way. at the moment the idea is like that 20-40% degree per year and about 2% transaction fee. Payout like that: the to the masses part has to give monthly the rate of the initial added ammount. Then a part goes to a foundation this foundation in the start is for helping the coin growing, and then after it reached a good size, for making votes for giving away coins. no ok of the masses no coints paid. (thats where charity projekts could get something from, or open source research, thinks that help the humanity) and then a small part to the miners as a king of thank you from the masses. There are enough coins for mining buisness, noone needs a new one for that. As anyone can see that idea is not for making money, with that degree the money on nearly all accounts is on an even level if noone does anything from the beginning to the moment the coin is tradeable. its just a little social help for the world. just something I can do to try to make the world a bit better.( I know i am crazy sometimes ) Ok don't think that I am trolling you because I am not. What you are basically saying is, you want to create a communist currency, where everyone gets the same share, whether they are rich or poor. Sorry, but who is going to mine it if say X has 1Gh of mining power, and Y has 1Mh but they both get the same share. Will all the coins be premined, and handed out accordingly? If everyone has the same share, then no-one will want to spend any as they will be poorer than the person they gave them to. This will only end up with there being Rich people who were more carefull with their coins, and poor people who weren't. These people will go on to have families in which their children will be born into, Rich families and Poor families, and there you have it, back at square one. See what I am saying? Oh I think you have to reread 1.st there is a part that goes to the miners 2.nd if you just hold your coins and dont want to spent them then the decrease makes your amount smaler until you are back to the point where you get the same coins + that you get decreased. There are 3 ways to get more from the curency 1st is mining and get extra coins that way 2nd is getting them from other users 3rd spend coins to fall under the limit where you get more + then decrease the limit is not planed to be that high and there will be peoples in it with more coins and peoples that have only the limit line coins but the peoples wich want to have more have to do something for it permanently, and not just do somthing and let them be coins for years. In the moment you stop doing something for having more, you start to get more and more to the limit over the time. The exact values for decrease and everything else have to be discussed to find the right ones the values in the example where just 1st thoughts about the highs not final values like nearly anything in that idea. Thats why it is an Idea discusion thread not a promotion of a finished coin. And trust me or not It will not be a communist curency, couse that system dont work. Peoples need to have the possibility to earn to have more then others, but peoples also need a secure base to be free in decision if they want to earn more or not. thanks for adding in your news. But the most importand question for me is still open, what possibility is there to get a auth for 1 natural person 1 getting account, about a way to implement that in a as anonym as possible way we can think after we have found something that works. So feel free to bring in any Idea on that. |
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Hello
Crypto Currencies are on there way to get there fixed place in the world. But this brings us to a few problems. Couse of the anonym charakter of coins there is no tax for the states and the normal currencies (dollar,euro,..) are on there way to a system crash. So that can be a point where crypto coins can get real big in the world.
But what do we have then? A financial System without taxes, that means no state. No Police, no Streetbuilding, no social care, simple and clear pure Anarchie. I think thats the last thing peoples like to have.
So here is the Plan:
Lets discuss together of how a coin has to be to realy work as a big world leading curency with all the things that it needs, a pool to pay states taxes, a social system to bring the more and more mechanical done work to a benefit to all not to a few, a max coin value that increases with the users and so on.
Everybody who is interrested in such a discussion is invited to come to socialcoin.freeforums.org.
The main Problem to solve at the moment is: How to become a worldwide working 1 social coins getting account for 1 user authentication, mutliple accounts for normal use have to be possible. So if someone has an idea on that it would be nice to share
There is one big point that is being missed here. Money isn't taxed! It is the goods, services, wages of the workers etc, that are taxed. Even if lets say a cryptocurrency is adopted in the future to replace a nations fiat currency. It will, and can be taxed in some way. You will go to work to earn this currency and be taxed. You will buy things in the store and be taxed. You will still pay tax on fuel, cigarettes, alcohol. This won't change. These currencies only give back power to the people over their own wealth. Governments may fall, banks may end up being, well...bankrupt, and the nation where you live may well be overthrown by anarchy for a while, if it isn't already. But eventually you will be taxed someday, somehow by somebody. Edit: P.S. We already have what you are proposing, its called 'the current fiat monetary system', what are you? A banker? A President? A King? A Queen? Are you realising you may be about to fall off the ladder? You can't beat us, so come join us Thanks for the statement there is much truth in it, the point that is not taxed is the money itself. That is a problem couse I want the System work for the masses, I think every person should have the same right to make work for a better life or even not. So i dont like the concept of born rich stay rich, born poor stay poor. What is also not taxable with coins is speculations with coins. Thats same we have today. Couse of more and more technologie killing working places and the difference beetween born in a rich land or poor land, a system needs something like a money for everyone thats why i need a way for an authentication to have 1 account per person to get that money. But dont worry I dont want everybody to have the same amount all the time, that cant work. Everybody must be able to become more if he works more. But just couse a grand grand Father worked more, no everybody has to work for his own status. I dont want peoples to stay rich over generations couse they are rich one time. Equal chances for everybody. I know the most peoples think if you pay free money to anyone noone want to work, but the point is most peoples dont want to stay at home all day. They want to make something, some produce Musik, others Arts, others like Programming, the next ones like to work on cars. with free money to everyone noone has to have a bad paid work that makes him ill. Everyone can decide if he wants to make what he is good in or if he dont find something in that buisnes something where he can say hey I earn enough so i like to do. That is realy good for the cultural healthy and has the effekt that the peoples in more poor countries get the same standart the peoples in rich countries have. 1% of each coin mined gets sold and donated to a charity automatically
sound nice but the problem there is what kind of charity to choose. Ok and a small update about an interresting chat talk about that: 1. Clients can mine automaticaly in a small way so the 51% problem is not that big. 2. all coins paid out instantly and a fixed amount of coins for every new athented account comes to the pool. not to that account directly, it will be added to the decreased coins and this value goes for a big part to the masses. So the System has more coins in it with more users. 3. an % transaktion fee brings the spekulation tax to the users. most users make + with that, only the big fishs give parts of there winnings to the masses that way. at the moment the idea is like that 20-40% degree per year and about 2% transaction fee. Payout like that: the to the masses part has to give monthly the rate of the initial added ammount. Then a part goes to a foundation this foundation in the start is for helping the coin growing, and then after it reached a good size, for making votes for giving away coins. no ok of the masses no coints paid. (thats where charity projekts could get something from, or open source research, thinks that help the humanity) and then a small part to the miners as a king of thank you from the masses. There are enough coins for mining buisness, noone needs a new one for that. As anyone can see that idea is not for making money, with that degree the money on nearly all accounts is on an even level if noone does anything from the beginning to the moment the coin is tradeable. its just a little social help for the world. just something I can do to try to make the world a bit better.( I know i am crazy sometimes ) |
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Ok, let's name it BETTERCoin.
30 sec per block.
a name change and change of block rate does not solve any problem. I dont want a concept for a money making coin. I want discuss ideas. You can still find a way to tax miners or I don't know, every transactions.
Governments control the internet, it's not because it is decentralized that they can't do shit about it
We pay taxes on the electricity we use and on the computer parts that we buy so in a way it is already taxated.. Thats right. But Energy is more and more possible to get in home devices in future. So that Tax is going then. The big Problem I see with taxing the miners is, the real big miners are in China where energy and building new Systems is cheapest. So for the USA and Europe no Tax |
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on the first day a plane was to be patented the patent agency workers sayd: "Only Birds can fly" and rejected. So the plane fly home without having the patend. Think about that Taxation on BTC would not be possible in a fair way. |
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