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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ANT vs ANT - Aragon or ANTScoin? on: January 25, 2018, 05:27:12 PM
I found a third version now...just ANT coin without the S and uses ANC???  This is getting insane quickly.

edit: just found that ANC (ANT Coin) is actually now rebranded as NEO
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / ANT vs ANT - Aragon or ANTScoin? on: January 25, 2018, 05:25:30 PM
Ok just wanted to seek some clarity as I had wondered if there was some official governing body that chooses coin/token acronyms to ensure there are no identical/crossover names.  I know there has been some controversy specifically in regard to which fork might retain or take over the bitcoin / btc name but one has to be really careful these days when trading between exchanges.

For example, today I was looking at trading pairs and saw that both HitBTC and Stocks.Exchange both have a BTC/ANT pair but the diff in satoshis currently trading was a huge gap and almost looked too good to be true.  Luckily before I jumped in I had a funny feeling because on Stocks.Exchange next to the ANT/BTC was also ANTScoin instead of Aragon as I expected.

Doing some research I see Aragon is always referred to as ANT but ANTScoin is sometimes ANT and sometimes ANN.  One is a coin and the other is a token but with the same acronym I just have to wonder how many people fell victim to what they thought was a great buy (and maybe it still was, who knows) but then couldn't trade it elsewhere as expected because it was the wrong coin/token.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]🔥OKO — blockchain VR platform for anonymous 18+ content distribution on: January 23, 2018, 05:22:38 PM
Nice, can't wait to see it all in action.  Curious, is there something of a demo anywhere?  Can we see prototypes or video logs of production stages?  Would be cool to watch and follow along as you make progress.  Best of success to you!
4  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: hashflare.io best mining pool setting on: January 10, 2018, 04:04:36 AM
2017.12.14: 0.00015274 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.15: 0.00016215 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.16: 0.00015657 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.17: 0.00014935 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.18: 0.00015026 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.19: 0.00014398 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.20: 0.00012560 - 34% Antpool / 33% F2Pool / 33% Slush
2017.12.21: 0.00013179 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.22: 0.00013496 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.23: 0.00012280 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.24: 0.00012809 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.25: 0.00012465 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.26: 0.00012443 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.27: 0.00012870 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.28: 0.00013183 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.29: 0.00013153 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.30: 0.00013900 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.31: 0.00014293 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.01: 0.00012509 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.02: 0.00013657 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.03: 0.00015025 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.04: 0.00014109 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.05: 0.00015890 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.06: 0.00015134 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.07: 0.00015580 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.08: 0.00015151 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.09: 0.00014305 - 100% Antpool

Final report - no need to post these anymore thanks to minerlytics!

Website link is: https://www.minerlytics.com/
5  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: hashflare.io best mining pool setting on: January 09, 2018, 10:50:38 PM
@minerlytics, just saw the changes with the hover tool tip showing the real daily numbers on the bar graphs, thank you!
6  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: hashflare.io best mining pool setting on: January 09, 2018, 02:48:07 AM
SHA256
BW (±33%)
BC (±33%)
SL (±33%)
0.000014458 BTC per 1 TH/s
7 Jan 2018

AP (±50%)
F2 (±50%)
0.00015635 BTC per 1 TH/s
8 Jan 2018

Thanks for the share!  I like that 50/50 result, was thinking going 50/50 ant/slush myself Grin
7  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: hashflare.io best mining pool setting on: January 09, 2018, 02:37:13 AM
That's what I get for not refreshing...just like what Doug E. Dee said, maybe next to or underneath the name of the pool you can put that actual per 1 TH/s hash results (or inside the graphs bars...i.e. white text/blue bkg).

From my understanding, these should all match up provided we are also 100% on one of your chosen 5 pools (even though yes I see your advice on your website where you suggest not putting all your mining power into a single pool). If you're ok with showing the numbers I can go back to a mixed ratio again  Grin...I was only set 100% to provide accurate results on what appears to be the most profitable path but is also a moral dilemma as I mentioned previously.
8  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: hashflare.io best mining pool setting on: January 09, 2018, 01:33:15 AM
Hi guys,

if you are mining BTC on Hashflare (SHA-256), check out the best mining pool settings on our website.
We recently created a page that monitoring Hashflare pool profitability.

How does it work?
We have registered 5 separate accounts on Hashflare. Each account has only one specific mining pool set up. We compare the BTC revenue per 1 TH/s of each account every day and analyze it on our website. A history and maintenance fee charts are available.





Please check it out and let us know your feedback.
Website link is: https://www.minerlytics.com/

Thanks!

Would be cool if you showed the actual numbers on the graph but I can see at least for ant, it looks to be right where it should be for .00015151 for 1/8/17 - thx for the share!
9  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: hashflare.io best mining pool setting on: January 07, 2018, 07:41:33 PM
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2018.01.06: 0.00015134 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.07: 0.00015580 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.08: 0.00015151 - 100% Antpool
10  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fee Issues on: January 05, 2018, 10:54:46 PM
Use alts to shift btc around, there are still many exchanges that do not charge fees to move btc.  Many exchanges charge minimal fractions of a % to trade coins instantly and then transfer elsewhere.  For example, one could convert btc to ltc and transfer to a popular exchange for only a small fee like .001 ltc, then use one of the many popular exchanges to withdraw btc (some with zero fees, you just gotta look around)
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: USI-Tech coin / MLM / Ponzi scam just bit the dust... on: January 05, 2018, 10:40:47 PM
Only their ponzi operation has been shut down for US/CA investors. The trading/mining part of the biz is still operating as normal it appears.  Time will tell if the whole thing is a scam.
12  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: hashflare.io best mining pool setting on: January 05, 2018, 07:07:39 AM
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2018.01.03: 0.00015025 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.04: 0.00014109 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.05: 0.00015890 - 100% Antpool
13  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: hashflare.io best mining pool setting on: January 03, 2018, 04:17:13 AM
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2018.01.01: 0.00012509 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.02: 0.00013657 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.03: 0.00015025 - 100% Antpool
14  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: hashflare.io best mining pool setting on: January 02, 2018, 11:43:54 PM
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2017.12.31: 0.00014293 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.01: 0.00012509 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.02: 0.00013657 - 100% Antpool
15  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: hashflare.io best mining pool setting on: January 01, 2018, 09:19:11 PM
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2017.12.30: 0.00013900 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.31: 0.00014293 - 100% Antpool
2018.01.01: 0.00012509 - 100% Antpool

I was looking at ViaBTC's PPS+ stats for BTC and they state an average .000169 per 1TH/s daily profit after pool fees which is fairly in line with what I am getting from HashFlare using Antpool if you deduct 20% for maint, .000169 * .8 = .0001352

ref: https://pool.viabtc.com/help/pricing/ (see Pool fees tab PPS+ Profit)

Remember though, with HF you are also required to pay a fee to withdraw whereas with mining direct at the pool the profits are deposited directly into your wallet address.  The conundrum is it's best not to withdraw too often when cloud mining w/ HF because it's expensive to withdraw but at the same time this requires a certain level of trust to keep your bitcoin on their platform.
16  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: hashflare.io best mining pool setting on: December 31, 2017, 09:56:38 PM
2017.12.14: 0.00015274 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.15: 0.00016215 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.16: 0.00015657 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.17: 0.00014935 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.18: 0.00015026 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.19: 0.00014398 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.20: 0.00012560 - 34% Antpool / 33% F2Pool / 33% Slush
2017.12.21: 0.00013179 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.22: 0.00013496 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.23: 0.00012280 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.24: 0.00012809 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.25: 0.00012465 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.26: 0.00012443 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.27: 0.00012870 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.28: 0.00013183 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.29: 0.00013153 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.30: 0.00013900 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.31: 0.00014293 - 100% Antpool

I wanted to change to slush based on the transaction fees being shared among the miners and antpool having too much "weight" in the faith system but realized we don't know enough details about HF as to what pay structure within slush that it chooses to use, (might also not pay transaction fees).  Also I think someone mentioned it already but I also recall reading on the HF website that the daily payout is also based on some kind of averaging system across all of it's users mining operations but clearly that's not the case otherwise one would expect our daily per TH/s metrics to be the same across the board.  The fact that they are very close is reassuring to say the least from one perspective, just still really curious about the extra profits from the blockchain saturation.
17  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: hashflare.io best mining pool setting on: December 29, 2017, 04:59:17 PM
Anyone know where to find something like this that is up to date?  Looks like this might have been last updated in 2015.

Taking the data as if it was current (again, not 100% sure):

AntPool - PPLNS & PPS - fees kept by pool - PPS fee 2.5% - other fee 0%
BTC.com - FPPS - fees shared w/ miners - PPS fee 0% - other fee 4%
Slush - Score - fees shared w/ miners - PPS fee 0% - other fee 2%
F2Pool - PPS - fees kept by pool - PPS fee 3% - other fee 0%

At quick glance it would seem Slush is the best paying depending on how that "other" 2% of fees are applied but based on our payouts (the last few weeks at least) we have NOT been getting any of the transaction fees on top of the block reward and is being kept by Hashflare.

Their website says this:  "After the system calculates your hashrate's input and the total payout from that pool you will be given your share of the mined BTC"

Since it says "total payout" from that pool one would deduce that actually means "total" which would include the fees if said pool pays fees to miners...but then again, there is the part about "given your share of the mined BTC" of which "fees" themselves are not mined.

So yeah, we're not getting paid the fees and I'm not so sure we have anything to complain about and might just have to chalk this up as one of the caveats of mining with Hashflare..
18  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: hashflare.io best mining pool setting on: December 28, 2017, 11:56:02 PM
Minergate.com is a better choise since their cloud mining price is lower and the same go for their fees.

Hashflare pays you according to how much you have bought of the total hashrate in their system. I guess this means that you can't hit a good block and keep it to yourself.

"Next, all mined cryptocurrency is distributed among all customers of HashFlare depending on their share of hashrate in the whole system."

Minergate is a little cheaper and fees look much, much lower but I haven't seen what people are getting back on returns.

I assume there is a finite amount of Hash Rate at Hashflare, so buying a bigger contract I would hope I would receive a lager percentage from the pool.

And hence your mining in a pool you have to share good blocks..

One thing I like about the minergate client is that you don't even have to use Minergate's mining service, you can enable custom pools and connect to any freely accessible pool you like.  For example, I do this with BCN and Minergate takes zero profit.
19  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: hashflare.io best mining pool setting on: December 28, 2017, 11:44:49 PM
.68 TH/s   ( BW / SL / BC )


2017.12.23 .00008161 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.24 .00008512 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.25 .00008284 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.26 .00008270 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.27 .00008554 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33
2017.12.28 .00008761 BW 33% / SL 34% / BC %33

This is after +-19% fee

Just an FYI, these numbers look like what you are actually being paid out.  We are posting the numbers from when you hover the blue bars in the "Revenue per 1 TH/s" section of the dashboard.  The consensus is that we should be able to compare our results amongst each other here and the results should be relatively the same, especially if same pool(s), keeping the mining service honest so-to-speak.
20  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: hashflare.io best mining pool setting on: December 28, 2017, 01:08:19 PM
2017.12.14: 0.00015274 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.15: 0.00016215 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.16: 0.00015657 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.17: 0.00014935 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.18: 0.00015026 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.19: 0.00014398 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.20: 0.00012560 - 34% Antpool / 33% F2Pool / 33% Slush
2017.12.21: 0.00013179 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.22: 0.00013496 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.23: 0.00012280 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.24: 0.00012809 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.25: 0.00012465 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.26: 0.00012443 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.27: 0.00012870 - 100% Antpool
2017.12.28: 0.00013183 - 100% Antpool
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