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1  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BLOKFORGE- Official Canaan Distributor on: March 16, 2018, 04:45:09 AM
I didn't pay 3600 thankfully, it wasn't first batch, I tried to get one of those but the website didn't load. Still paid more for an 821 than what the 841s are going for. It's doubtful that I'll ROI my 821 with the difficulty increases.

Also I should be getting it soon my post wasn't about shipping, point is seeing the 841s priced that much cheaper is a slap in the face. It would have been better to buy bitcoin.
2  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BLOKFORGE- Official Canaan Distributor on: March 16, 2018, 01:26:27 AM
Am I seeing things or is the 841 priced much lower than the 821? 841 ships out in only a month too...

I'm still waiting for my 821 (which will likely never pay for itself now) and the 841s are that much cheaper and only a month away?! I should of just freaking bought bitcoin because this is ridiculous.
3  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 8 official specs released on: February 05, 2018, 03:18:48 PM
I cant help but wonder what is ppl thinking for paying 3500$ for a 11th miner? thats a 14 month to ROI without any diff increase.

I almost did but was one of those people who couldn't load the cart quick enough. Now I'm glad I didn't. Apart from the massive difficulty increase sure to happen in March when all the new miners arrive, there's also been rumors of new and more powerful miners coming out soon.

Seems best to just invest in bitcoin directly.
4  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Selling 1 Unit S9 13.5 from March 1st-10th batch on: January 26, 2018, 07:17:51 AM
I'm interested but can't message you because I'm still a board "newbie".
5  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BLOKFORGE- Official Canaan Distributor on: January 13, 2018, 04:28:10 AM
IMO, if it is going to be like this from here on out, they should set up a lottery system where you know a few days in advance if you're gonna get one or not.  Then, when they go on sale, give people like 10 minutes to check out.  If you don't check out in 10 minutes, the rest go back on the market and sell first come first serve.  I get rewarding people who get there first, but in this case we were all there within a second of each other.  They are either going to people using bots or it's just dumb luck.  If nothing else, it would make life easier for Blokforge if 10,000 people weren't constantly refreshing the page.

Well quantities will get larger from here on out, so it only gets buggy when there is 1-2 items left on the site, so wont be like that forever.  But honestly no matter which way we do it we will get upset people.  People will miss the lottery, say its rigged, ect..

Now this round paypal screwed up about 16 sales right now  by blocking transactions, caused people to not be able to checkout after they did that, so held inventory ect.. now cut us off and told us to refund people if we are not shipping them right away.  But in the end i guess that is why btc exists....


So... it was Paypal that stopped me?  In my case I kept clicking the 'proceed to paypal' button, but never made it to their site.

Seems that way, they called us and said they were blocking payments until we uploaded tracking for every item sold and submitted invoices from the factory, factory contacts to verify, two years financials. ect....   So needless to say we are no longer taking paypal unfortunately.

Are credit cards going to be accepted for the March batches?
6  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BLOKFORGE- Official Canaan Distributor on: January 13, 2018, 12:15:27 AM
So I got the site to load at 5 pm MST on the dot, added to cart and it was sold out in the few seconds it took the page to reload.

How does a batch of miners sell out in seconds? How do people check out that fast?!

Can one of those massive mining farms in China spare some used miners? How about they donate a used old batch to the forum? In the spirit of decentralization.

I'd be happy to get ONE. To MINE with, make a little money and support crypto, not resell for absurd amounts.

I'm not into crying but trying to get a hold of a miner is bringing me there!
7  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pangolinminer & Whatsminer FAQs on: December 28, 2017, 08:45:04 AM
Nope. No Luck. Got two in my cart then said out of stock when the cart loaded.

Check again (keep reloading the cart). They came back in stock and I was able to check out.

Same, although after thinking about the amperage of my PDU circuit I might have to sell one Sad

I'd be interested if you do Smiley. I have a high amp set up collecting dust.
8  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BLOKFORGE- Official Canaan Distributor on: December 28, 2017, 04:05:50 AM
We will try something a bit diff on the A8 first batch.....

First 10 we will announce the sale date and time on forum, and post link on the forum.  Rest will go as the last batch did.  It will be a very small batch again, less than 100. 

Possibly a higher price with rebate for a thought out product review, not much, but something to make worth someones time to do it.  Resellers will not usually have means to do a review for the rebate, miners will.

Possibly a lotto for one unit, the first unit, possibly PM us numbers 1-100, pick number on livestream. 

We will decide final path in about a week.



Definitely a big kudos to you guys for listening!

Agreed, thank you. It can't be easy to work with small batches and high demand (and demanding customers) but the effort is greatly appreciated.
9  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BLOKFORGE- Official Canaan Distributor on: December 27, 2017, 07:13:11 PM
BlokForge did this the right way and I don't feel they have anything to apologize for. I'm not saying this because I was one of the lucky ones. I'm saying it because it was the most fair way to do it and all the suggestions being bounced around would have caused things to go the same or worse.

(Warn people that you expect high traffic when the sale starts) - Assuming BF knew that their website would be suddenly slammed with thousands of would-be buyers, what purpose does warning everyone about it serve? The end result is the same and we all knew that everyone was going to be on there trying to order anyways.

(Advise How Many Units are available) - What is gained by knowing how many units they have available? If you knew there were less than 100, what would you have done differently? Scarcity breeds more interest, not less.

(Limit to 1 per person) - I like that they set a limit. I can't say I like it being as low as one miner, though. A more appropriate method of limiting order sizes would be to related it to the total number of miners available. If there are few to go around, then make an appropriate limit. Consider also that BF creates more work for themselves because the smaller limit increases the number of orders to ship, payments to handle/receive, and increases the number of potential shipping issues.

THANK YOU FOR THE LIMIT, BLOKFORGE! Seriously. That really helps those of us that do not have tens of thousands of dollars to throw around or the ability to write a script to automatically order dozens of units as soon as they're available).

(Don't let miners be added to the cart if there are none left) - I believe the issue here was that people were in the process of buying the same miners you were able to add to your cart. There is no way around this except that you can remove any units in someone's cart from the available inventory. That is a bad idea because of the high-traffic issues and people constantly hitting F5, which can increase the number units they end up adding to their cart. That is alleviated somewhat with the order limit, but I've only ever had negative experiences with websites that do this.

(Make a Lottery/Queue System) - I think the lottery and the queue are both not-great ideas. There will be rumors that BlokForge is picking friends or family or that they're not randomizing the selection in the correct way. I've never known any other seller (in any private industry/business) to do something similar. And you're not thinking about just how many people would be in that lottery...

For the most part, all of us were on equal footing tonight. All of us were frantically trying to F5 our way to the "Submit Order" screen. And you were only competing with those that were actually online and trying to get the order. If there was a lottery/queue, then just think about how many people would just be adding themselves to the list. Now you're competing against 5,000 or 10,000... They already limited it to 2 per customer, which created a better chance than any of us has ever had trying to catch an order through Canaan.io directly.

I'm not trying to pander, but I honestly don't know how anyone could have expected BlokForge to handle that better. Honestly, I'm surprised their website didn't completely crash, since I doubt the servers were set-up for that much traffic. We are in a new world of BTC Mining. Even if you didn't get any tonight, you at least had a chance.

I agree to much of this, and Blokforge probably did the best they could with what they have. Buy limits based on batch size would be great.

I differ on the points about and traffic and inventory announcements. Not everyone is in a frenzy to get a miner. Knowing that there is little chance of getting on to a website, then buying one of the few miners, might sober some people up. They might not try/save their money for next time/try a different store etc (which could lessen the web traffic).

There are a lot of people who are in a bitcoin frenzy. There are also people who approach this realistically, not to get rich quick or be part of the latest trend, and would simply like to get into mining on a small scale (because they believe in bitcoin).

So I'm not saying that Blokforge should give dire warnings about impending stampedes before sales, just there are people who would weigh that information before madly smashing "refresh" on their browser for ten minutes Smiley. I did that  (it didn't keep adding units to my cart), but not out of a frenzy, rather feeling a bit frustrated. Like, is there a chance for the little guy in mining or do you need to have enough money to buy a pallet? I don't need a pallet, I'd be happy with one or two.

As it is I may save for an A8 or see what else is out there. Demand may still be high but maybe the stampede will thin out because people realize they won't get rich quick/mining isn't so easy with set ups and power supplies/etc.

I know that whatever Blokforge and the other distributors announce, I'll be going into the A8 buy soberly. If I get one I get one, it's better to see them go to other individual miners than farms though.
10  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BLOKFORGE- Official Canaan Distributor on: December 27, 2017, 12:42:13 AM
Tried the website at 5 pm MST and took about 5 minutes to load, added one to my cart, by the time the cart loaded they were sold out.
11  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon 8 official specs released on: December 26, 2017, 07:53:50 PM
They raised the pallet pricing by $2,000.  Now $152,525.

Is there any chance the A821s will be under 2500 or even 3000? It looks unlikely from what people are saying about pallet prices, unless the official distributors like crypto and blokforge get them for cheaper?
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