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With this experience, I've decided to stay away from buying or selling bitcoins with Paypal.

sublime5447, I think you are an honest seller/buyer, but after reading this tread, I would suggest you'd we easier on new users in the forum. We are learning about this bitcoin business, just like you once did. A user isn't a fraudster until he has clear intentions of committing fraud or has already done so. Thank you for doing research and providing info though, we are learning from this as well!

I tried to buy 1 BTC for PP from Biglab 2 days ago. He wanted me to send him the PayPal as a gift. I found out his PP acct wasn't verified, and told him I could only send it as "paying for goods and services". He agreed.

When I tried to send him the money, I got this Paypal error "We're sorry, but we can't send your payment right now.". He suggested I try a different browser. I did that but kept getting the same error. He then provided a different email address to try, which also was not Paypal verified.

At that point I didn't trust the whole thing any more and backed out, besides I had an event to go to and ran out of time.
After reading this, I am glad I backed out.

The first email address he gave me is the same as the one mentioned in this tread.

Es importante que empieces bién, porque luego puedes tener problemas y te cierran el negocio.

Veo que por el momento sólo se puede vender BTC por medio del número CLABE. ¿Tienes planeado permitir usar el número de tarjeta de débito también?
En las preguntas frequentes del sitio de internet de la Asocición de Bancos de México (http://www.abm.org.mx/faqs/clabe.htm), vi lo siguiente:

I kind of agree with you on that one. If they suspect your account was hacked or your cards were compromised, they should just reset the password on your account, cancel your cards and issue new ones. That's what my local CU would do. Have you asked to speak to the branch manager or the manager of the fraud prevention department (some might call is "compliance department")?

I understand your frustration Namworld, but I would like to point out a couple of things about credit unions in general and Interac e-transfers.

I do my banking at a CU. CUs always take less risks compared to banks, because they don't have owners who want to make a maximum profit like banks do. The owners of CUs are the member that have their accounts with them, and their main goal is to save money.

I think most CUs would have proceeded the same way Desjardins did in this case.

I wonder if there is a big police investigation against the buyer and police asked them to freeze you money during this time, but the are not allowed to tell you about it.

The problem here, as you mentioned, potentially is that the buyer used a hacked account to transfer the money.

Desjardings and CUs in general take fewer risks than banks do, because their deposits are 100% guaranteed, therefore their insurance goes up if they have too many fraudulent transactions that the insurance company has to cover.

I like Interac e-transfers because they are easy, fast and protect your privacy, buy the risk is that an account can have been hacked and now the hacker buys bitcoins to get the money out of the account. Another risk issue is that if the owner of the account is using e-transfers to buy illegal substances or other illegal activities and seller is linked to the buyer because of one or more legit transactions between the two.

I think using e-transfers with buyers that have a good reputation on localbitcoin is fairly safe.

Gracias por el consejo joeblack. Econtré a alguien con una cuenta y vendí los bitcoin.
Estoy viendo si en el futuro cambio de estrategia, así que estoy buscando a ver que opciones hay.

En las preguntas frequentes del sitio de internet de la Asocición de Bancos de México (http://www.abm.org.mx/faqs/clabe.htm), vi lo siguiente:


Parece que algo que puede funcionar.

Será por desconfianza ó por el método de pago, pero no he podido vendir apox. BTC0.33.

No tengo cuenta de banco, pero FAMSA tiene un servicio económico de envío de dinero a nivel nacional, y ese me gustaría utilizar. Yo pagaría el costo de envío. Bansefi también tiene un servicio igual, llamado "Dinero en un Tris", pero no tiene tantas sucursales como FAMSA. Tal vez hay otras empresas que tiengan un servicio similar del que yo no esté enterado.

La venta la haría por localbitcoins, utilizando el servicio de escrow, una forma segura para los dos, vendedor y comprador.

Si alguién tiene una sugerencia, por favor avíseme. Gracias.

Estoy interesado en vender menos de un BTC. ¿Alguién esta interesado en comprar y enviar pesos por Famsa?
Preferentemente se haría la transacción por localbitcoins.

Yeah, being in jail isn't fun at all.

I didn't know about btcquick. Interesting.

Welcome to bitcointalk!

Just signed up to be a member of this forum, although I had been following it before in my BTCbitcoin research. I have made a couple of trades on locabitcoins.

I am here to learn more about BTCbitcoins and hang out in the community.