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After a few hours of farting around with settings, I have some interesting finding as far as hashrate VS power consumption on a Vega 56 with 56 BIOS on "Block-chain" drivers.
NOW PLEASE KEEP IN MIND that this only matters to you if you actually have to pay for your power (some people get free electrons from mom and dad, or have flat rate electricity).
Also, these numbers are based on the price of XMR at the time of calculation. I also have a water cooler for my CPU, and for some reason when running HW64 to get HBM temps, my liquid cooler would max out the fan RPM of the cooler, witch I'm sure added Watts to my readout at the wall.
The important thing to note is the constants, ignore the finite details of the exact power usage (yours WILL vary depending on things like water coolers and other computer peripherals) and pay attention to watts vs return vs HBM temps!
My mission was to find a balance of noise to return ratio. I didn't want my GPU fan to be running above 2500 RPM due to noise in the house. I also wanted to be within a safe HBM temp range as to add longevity to the video card if possible (At $800+, they aint cheap!)
Lastly, what is NOT taken into consideration here is the fact that in order to keep HMB in a safe temp range, I would have had to incrementally raise the fan RPM in order to keep the HBM and GPU temps in check, thus further increasing wattage used.
It's not a perfect experiment, but interesting nonetheless.
Vega 64 BIOS on Vega 56 Card:
1980 H/S @ 280w = $4.68 (What the hell is the point, read below)
Vega 56 BIOS on Vega 56 Card - Freq% @ 0 - MHz @ 935 - Fan RPM @ 2200
1845 H/s @ 150W @ -20%= $4.99- 65C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1894 H/s @ 160W @ -15%= $5.11 - 67C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1911 H/s @ 175W @ -10%= $5.11 - 69C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1927 H/s @ 189W @ -5% = $5.12 - 71C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1930 H/s @ 220W @ 0% = $5.03 - 73C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1945 H/s @ 215W @ +5 = $5.09 - 75C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1940 H/s @ 225W @ +10 = $5.04 - 77C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1950 H/s @ 235W @ +15 = $5.04 - 77C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1955 H/s @ 245W @ +20 = $5.02 - 79C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
Based on my info, the sweet-spot seems to be "1927 H/s @ 189W" netting the best return. In fact, the higher you go in H/s, the less you will earn. Same holds true if you lower power consumption vs H/s.
Now going Vega 56 on 64 Bios is completely INSANE, unless you are not paying for power!
Actually it's not insane, but you just have to do some more adjustments. Almost all people here are using Afterbuner so i'm not quite sure which frequencies of GPU are used with those settings, but with vega56 on 64 bios, and registry mod i have 1950 H/s @ 150-160W. GPU clock at 1407/925mV and mem at 1100/905mV. What is the most concise and least confusing tutorial you have found on setting it up with Afterburner? |
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Where did you get the info to set commands like "-G 0" "fastjobswitch -I 9", etc?
check the dev site or your can run a bat file consist of cast_xmr-vega --help cmd /k THANK YOU! Now what does the "--forcecompute" actually do? |
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After a few hours of farting around with settings, I have some interesting finding as far as hashrate VS power consumption on a Vega 56 with 56 BIOS on "Block-chain" drivers.
NOW PLEASE KEEP IN MIND that this only matters to you if you actually have to pay for your power (some people get free electrons from mom and dad, or have flat rate electricity).
Also, these numbers are based on the price of XMR at the time of calculation. I also have a water cooler for my CPU, and for some reason when running HW64 to get HBM temps, my liquid cooler would max out the fan RPM of the cooler, witch I'm sure added Watts to my readout at the wall.
The important thing to note is the constants, ignore the finite details of the exact power usage (yours WILL vary depending on things like water coolers and other computer peripherals) and pay attention to watts vs return vs HBM temps!
My mission was to find a balance of noise to return ratio. I didn't want my GPU fan to be running above 2500 RPM due to noise in the house. I also wanted to be within a safe HBM temp range as to add longevity to the video card if possible (At $800+, they aint cheap!)
Lastly, what is NOT taken into consideration here is the fact that in order to keep HMB in a safe temp range, I would have had to incrementally raise the fan RPM in order to keep the HBM and GPU temps in check, thus further increasing wattage used.
It's not a perfect experiment, but interesting nonetheless.
Vega 64 BIOS on Vega 56 Card:
1980 H/S @ 280w = $4.68 (What the hell is the point, read below)
Vega 56 BIOS on Vega 56 Card - Freq% @ 0 - MHz @ 935 - Fan RPM @ 2200
1845 H/s @ 150W @ -20%= $4.99- 65C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1894 H/s @ 160W @ -15%= $5.11 - 67C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1911 H/s @ 175W @ -10%= $5.11 - 69C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1927 H/s @ 189W @ -5% = $5.12 - 71C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1930 H/s @ 220W @ 0% = $5.03 - 73C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1945 H/s @ 215W @ +5 = $5.09 - 75C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1940 H/s @ 225W @ +10 = $5.04 - 77C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1950 H/s @ 235W @ +15 = $5.04 - 77C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
1955 H/s @ 245W @ +20 = $5.02 - 79C MAX HBM Temp @ 2200 RPM
Based on my info, the sweet-spot seems to be "1927 H/s @ 189W" netting the best return. In fact, the higher you go in H/s, the less you will earn. Same holds true if you lower power consumption vs H/s.
Now going Vega 56 on 64 Bios is completely INSANE, unless you are not paying for power!
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Can we get support for sumokoin added?
Pretty Please? It already has it... how did you achieve that? It doesnt work for me... I had to use other programs to mine on my desktop computer. You know what, I bet he simply put his sumkoin wallet in and then put in the correct server address and then you know what I bet he started the miner up. Please use this exact setup for Vega cards.. ****DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING***** VEGA CARDS USE THIS *****DO NOT CHANGE***** create a bat file with this below cast_xmr-vega -G 0 -S sumopool.sonofatech.com:3333 -u Sumoo6sncGt3h3r5dkNKkkHnpAfxGbvomDo14cDJAxsGgVZKPRsEMvQ4tL5hVQj2HihL8JoN93qzn8U 3ckjyLFfdcUomFAnkbV5 -p x --nonicehash --fastjobswitch -I 9 Where did you get the info to set commands like "-G 0" "fastjobswitch -I 9", etc? |
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I see here that many people claim to get 1950 Hs with memory speed of 945 or so. I'm wondering what i'm doing wrong - i'm also getting 1950, but with memory at 1100 (and gpu at 1407). If i set memory to 945, hash rate goes down to ~1700-1750!?
I'm using Vega 56 cards, with 64 bios and registry files for HBM1100. And of course, blockchain drivers and latest version of Cast XMR.
P.S. i have 6 cards, tried with single one and same result. I'm also using only 2GB of RAM, not sure could that be an issue (but i doubt, as all calculations are done inside GPUs).
thanks
One you upgrade to the 64 BIOS, you have to use 64 settings. 1950 H/s @ 935/945 is for 56 un-moded cards! Try these settings (for your appropriate card and BIOS type) NOTE that it's a starting point, your results may vary slightly: Vega 64 Hash Rates 1900 Hash/s with 200 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 1025 MHz Power Limit: -23% 2000 Hash/s with 250 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 1095 MHz Power Limit: 0 2050 Hash/s with 280 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 1105 MHz Power Limit: +20% Vega 56 Hash Rates 1900 Hash/s with 150 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 945 MHz Power Limit: -22% 2000 Hash/s with 200 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 965 MHz Power Limit: 0 2050 Hash/s with 225 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 990 MHz Power Limit: +12% Hm, sounds strange to me, as i though vega64 bios is used only because of better undervolting and overclocking possibilities. Instead in relative percentages, do you know exact frequencies of GPU at those settings? I'm most interested in lower power consumption (150W) and getting about 1900 Hash/s is just fine to me. Even if cards doesn't complaint about 1100mhz, i believe they will be more relaxed on 945MHz. And just to be clear, you didn't even change registry for voltage adjusting, just using installed drivers/cards with factory settings? Btw, is there any explanation of intensity argument, and how to find the best one for the card (except trying all 10)? Right now I am getting the following using Stock Vega 56 BIOS on "Blockchain Drivers" from AMD and it's been stable for more than 24 hours: Average Hashrate = 1923 H/s Fan set to = 2000 RPM Temp = 60C (Stable) GPU Freq = 0% Memory Freq = 935 MHz Power Limit % = -10 Power draw at the wall (Measured) = 150W to 165W That sounds quite nice - mine fans are about 3000-3500 in order to keep HBM temp around 60-62C. But i'm using 6 gpu which of course increase total heat and cards are harder to cool - how much cards you have? However, i'll give it a try (stock bios, unmodified registry). Thanks. My HBM is hovering around 63/65C...do you know what the safe maximum is for these temperatures. I read that HBM will usually run hotter than GPU temps as well, but I'm not sure what a safe maximum is?! I answered my own question: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/72f101/vega_56_safe_hbm_temps/ |
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I see here that many people claim to get 1950 Hs with memory speed of 945 or so. I'm wondering what i'm doing wrong - i'm also getting 1950, but with memory at 1100 (and gpu at 1407). If i set memory to 945, hash rate goes down to ~1700-1750!?
I'm using Vega 56 cards, with 64 bios and registry files for HBM1100. And of course, blockchain drivers and latest version of Cast XMR.
P.S. i have 6 cards, tried with single one and same result. I'm also using only 2GB of RAM, not sure could that be an issue (but i doubt, as all calculations are done inside GPUs).
thanks
One you upgrade to the 64 BIOS, you have to use 64 settings. 1950 H/s @ 935/945 is for 56 un-moded cards! Try these settings (for your appropriate card and BIOS type) NOTE that it's a starting point, your results may vary slightly: Vega 64 Hash Rates 1900 Hash/s with 200 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 1025 MHz Power Limit: -23% 2000 Hash/s with 250 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 1095 MHz Power Limit: 0 2050 Hash/s with 280 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 1105 MHz Power Limit: +20% Vega 56 Hash Rates 1900 Hash/s with 150 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 945 MHz Power Limit: -22% 2000 Hash/s with 200 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 965 MHz Power Limit: 0 2050 Hash/s with 225 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 990 MHz Power Limit: +12% Hm, sounds strange to me, as i though vega64 bios is used only because of better undervolting and overclocking possibilities. Instead in relative percentages, do you know exact frequencies of GPU at those settings? I'm most interested in lower power consumption (150W) and getting about 1900 Hash/s is just fine to me. Even if cards doesn't complaint about 1100mhz, i believe they will be more relaxed on 945MHz. And just to be clear, you didn't even change registry for voltage adjusting, just using installed drivers/cards with factory settings? Btw, is there any explanation of intensity argument, and how to find the best one for the card (except trying all 10)? Right now I am getting the following using Stock Vega 56 BIOS on "Blockchain Drivers" from AMD and it's been stable for more than 24 hours: Average Hashrate = 1923 H/s Fan set to = 2000 RPM Temp = 60C (Stable) GPU Freq = 0% Memory Freq = 935 MHz Power Limit % = -10 Power draw at the wall (Measured) = 150W to 165W That sounds quite nice - mine fans are about 3000-3500 in order to keep HBM temp around 60-62C. But i'm using 6 gpu which of course increase total heat and cards are harder to cool - how much cards you have? However, i'll give it a try (stock bios, unmodified registry). Thanks. My HBM is hovering around 63/65C...do you know what the safe maximum is for these temperatures. I read that HBM will usually run hotter than GPU temps as well, but I'm not sure what a safe maximum is?! |
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I see here that many people claim to get 1950 Hs with memory speed of 945 or so. I'm wondering what i'm doing wrong - i'm also getting 1950, but with memory at 1100 (and gpu at 1407). If i set memory to 945, hash rate goes down to ~1700-1750!?
I'm using Vega 56 cards, with 64 bios and registry files for HBM1100. And of course, blockchain drivers and latest version of Cast XMR.
P.S. i have 6 cards, tried with single one and same result. I'm also using only 2GB of RAM, not sure could that be an issue (but i doubt, as all calculations are done inside GPUs).
thanks
One you upgrade to the 64 BIOS, you have to use 64 settings. 1950 H/s @ 935/945 is for 56 un-moded cards! Try these settings (for your appropriate card and BIOS type) NOTE that it's a starting point, your results may vary slightly: Vega 64 Hash Rates 1900 Hash/s with 200 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 1025 MHz Power Limit: -23% 2000 Hash/s with 250 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 1095 MHz Power Limit: 0 2050 Hash/s with 280 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 1105 MHz Power Limit: +20% Vega 56 Hash Rates 1900 Hash/s with 150 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 945 MHz Power Limit: -22% 2000 Hash/s with 200 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 965 MHz Power Limit: 0 2050 Hash/s with 225 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 990 MHz Power Limit: +12% Hm, sounds strange to me, as i though vega64 bios is used only because of better undervolting and overclocking possibilities. Instead in relative percentages, do you know exact frequencies of GPU at those settings? I'm most interested in lower power consumption (150W) and getting about 1900 Hash/s is just fine to me. Even if cards doesn't complaint about 1100mhz, i believe they will be more relaxed on 945MHz. And just to be clear, you didn't even change registry for voltage adjusting, just using installed drivers/cards with factory settings? Btw, is there any explanation of intensity argument, and how to find the best one for the card (except trying all 10)? Right now I am getting the following using Stock Vega 56 BIOS on "Blockchain Drivers" from AMD and it's been stable for more than 24 hours: Average Hashrate = 1923 H/s Fan set to = 2000 RPM Temp = 60C (Stable) GPU Freq = 0% Memory Freq = 935 MHz Power Limit % = -10 Power draw at the wall (Measured) = 150W to 165W |
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Where can I find a list of the .bat commands for tweaking the program such as "Intensity" etc?
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I see here that many people claim to get 1950 Hs with memory speed of 945 or so. I'm wondering what i'm doing wrong - i'm also getting 1950, but with memory at 1100 (and gpu at 1407). If i set memory to 945, hash rate goes down to ~1700-1750!?
I'm using Vega 56 cards, with 64 bios and registry files for HBM1100. And of course, blockchain drivers and latest version of Cast XMR.
P.S. i have 6 cards, tried with single one and same result. I'm also using only 2GB of RAM, not sure could that be an issue (but i doubt, as all calculations are done inside GPUs).
thanks
One you upgrade to the 64 BIOS, you have to use 64 settings. 1950 H/s @ 935/945 is for 56 un-moded cards! Try these settings (for your appropriate card and BIOS type) NOTE that it's a starting point, your results may vary slightly: Vega 64 Hash Rates 1900 Hash/s with 200 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 1025 MHz Power Limit: -23% 2000 Hash/s with 250 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 1095 MHz Power Limit: 0 2050 Hash/s with 280 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 1105 MHz Power Limit: +20% Vega 56 Hash Rates 1900 Hash/s with 150 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 945 MHz Power Limit: -22% 2000 Hash/s with 200 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 965 MHz Power Limit: 0 2050 Hash/s with 225 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 990 MHz Power Limit: +12% |
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ok interesting, i looked into this a little more.
I upped my frequency to -10 from -30. I will see if it's more stable. I was following the STAK reddit guide. Seems things evolved quite a bit.
I'm fooling with 0% tdp. It costs about 150 extra watts at the wall vs. -20% tdp on 3 Vega 56. It's does not really matter to me. I have big enough PSU, I just want stability. Profitability is about the same, all I want is good stability. I'm curious why the virtual memory settings matter...
I switched back to the Vega 56 BIOS as I see ZERO reason at this point to upgrade. Even though you can up the Memory Freq past the 56 BIOS (stable) limit of 935MHz, there seems to be no real gain in any way, and in fact, power usage seems to go up compared to stock 56 BIOS. My current settings with 56 BIOS @ 1942.9 H/s Average @ 68C Temp: GPU: Freq% = 0 Memory Freq% = 935 MHz Power Limit: +10% (However this does not seem to make a difference weather its 0% or 10%) FAN: 2000 RPM THIS SEEMS TO BE IMPORTANT!!!!!! Disabling and reinstalling the Vega 56 in "Device Manager" after any Wattman changes seems to add a level of hash-rate stability, though I might be imagining things. |
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I am having an issue with Vega 56 crashing when trying to tweak as per the tutorial here: http://www.gandalph3000.com/cast_xmr/cast-xmr-optimized-cryptonight-miner-for-rx-vega/I have the Vega "Blockchain" drivers installed (fresh install). If I try to use any of the settings bellow as per the tutorial, I will hash for no more than 3 or 4 minutes, my screen goes all pixelated, and Windows 10 crashes forcing me to reboot. If I leave Cast running with "default" Vega settings, I am hashing at 1600H/s and its stable, but I obviously want to increase it if possible. Settings I have tried without success: 1900 Hash/s with 150 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 945 MHz Power Limit: -22% 2000 Hash/s with 200 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 965 MHz Power Limit: 0 2050 Hash/s with 225 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 990 MHz Power Limit: +12% Anyone have any ideas on how to properly tweak the Vega settings as I dont really have any experience on overclocking or undervolting GPU's. Tx  Try adding on the command of cast-xmr.exe: -I 2 --fastjobswitch What does the command do for the card exactly? That command should lower a little the intensity of the mining process, I still get a stable 1910H/s with that command Ok, so I have now installed the Vega 64 BIOS and I'm running: Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 1105 MHz Power Limit: +20% And only getting an average of 1982 H/s @ 280W power usage. Seems like low hash rate for the settings with high power usage. GPU is sitting around 68C with 3300 RPM on the fan. Is it nessesary to do the power-play hack to the registry in order to touch the 2050 H/s realm? |
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I am having an issue with Vega 56 crashing when trying to tweak as per the tutorial here: http://www.gandalph3000.com/cast_xmr/cast-xmr-optimized-cryptonight-miner-for-rx-vega/I have the Vega "Blockchain" drivers installed (fresh install). If I try to use any of the settings bellow as per the tutorial, I will hash for no more than 3 or 4 minutes, my screen goes all pixelated, and Windows 10 crashes forcing me to reboot. If I leave Cast running with "default" Vega settings, I am hashing at 1600H/s and its stable, but I obviously want to increase it if possible. Settings I have tried without success: 1900 Hash/s with 150 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 945 MHz Power Limit: -22% 2000 Hash/s with 200 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 965 MHz Power Limit: 0 2050 Hash/s with 225 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 990 MHz Power Limit: +12% Anyone have any ideas on how to properly tweak the Vega settings as I dont really have any experience on overclocking or undervolting GPU's. Tx use this guide instead, you dont need the AMD settings utility... http://vega.miningguides.com/ Are you running a 56 on 64 Bios? |
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Vega 56 without a BIOS mod often has issues past about 940 memory clock - and mine gets unhappy at anything above 935.
Apparently one of the ways AMD deliberately "crippeled" the 56 to avoid having it poach 64 sales was to limit how high the memory volts COULD go, to limit memory clock speeds.
Try running a little lower memory clock setting if you want STABLE performance.
Interesting, have you tried the 64 Bios on your 56 yet? If so, are you still able to use the card for gaming with the 64 Bios installed? I use my machine as a daily driver, not a dedicated miner and I want to be able to swap drivers out when I want to game (not very often mind you). As far as your card not liking anything above 935 MHz, I am experiencing the exact same behavior out of mine. I tried 940 and upped the power limit from -22 all the way up to "0", no go! I tried a few different configurations and the 3 listed below seem to be running stable now after almost 45 minutes (fingers crossed). 1850 H/s @ 150W: Core -10% Memory Clock: 935 MHz Power Limit: -20% 1835 H/s @ 140W: Core -10% Memory Clock: 935 MHz Power Limit: -22% 1830H/s @135W:Core -10% Memory Clock: 935 MHz Power Limit: -25% |
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I am having an issue with Vega 56 crashing when trying to tweak as per the tutorial here: http://www.gandalph3000.com/cast_xmr/cast-xmr-optimized-cryptonight-miner-for-rx-vega/I have the Vega "Blockchain" drivers installed (fresh install). If I try to use any of the settings bellow as per the tutorial, I will hash for no more than 3 or 4 minutes, my screen goes all pixelated, and Windows 10 crashes forcing me to reboot. If I leave Cast running with "default" Vega settings, I am hashing at 1600H/s and its stable, but I obviously want to increase it if possible. Settings I have tried without success: 1900 Hash/s with 150 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 945 MHz Power Limit: -22% 2000 Hash/s with 200 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 965 MHz Power Limit: 0 2050 Hash/s with 225 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 990 MHz Power Limit: +12% Anyone have any ideas on how to properly tweak the Vega settings as I dont really have any experience on overclocking or undervolting GPU's. Tx Try adding on the command of cast-xmr.exe: -I 2 --fastjobswitch What does the command do for the card exactly? |
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I am having an issue with Vega 56 crashing when trying to tweak as per the tutorial here: http://www.gandalph3000.com/cast_xmr/cast-xmr-optimized-cryptonight-miner-for-rx-vega/I have the Vega "Blockchain" drivers installed (fresh install). If I try to use any of the settings bellow as per the tutorial, I will hash for no more than 3 or 4 minutes, my screen goes all pixelated, and Windows 10 crashes forcing me to reboot. If I leave Cast running with "default" Vega settings, I am hashing at 1600H/s and its stable, but I obviously want to increase it if possible. Settings I have tried without success: 1900 Hash/s with 150 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 945 MHz Power Limit: -22% 2000 Hash/s with 200 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 965 MHz Power Limit: 0 2050 Hash/s with 225 watts power consumption Core Frequency: -10% Memory Clock: 990 MHz Power Limit: +12% Anyone have any ideas on how to properly tweak the Vega settings as I dont really have any experience on overclocking or undervolting GPU's. Tx |
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