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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Abnormal BTC transfer in and out of address in the same block, how is possible? on: June 13, 2023, 03:59:19 AM
This is how Bitcoin works: anyone with the private key can move funds. The only thing that's left now is find out how the private key was leaked, and make sure it never happens again in the future. Considering the funds involved are quite significant, they should only have been send to a cold wallet. Hot wallets are inherently risky.

I know, I was just wondering how it was possible to send a Tx that was spending unconfirmed deposits (i.e. with 0 confirmation). I don't think you can do that with ETH, for example. But I guess BTC allows that. Interesting.
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Abnormal BTC transfer in and out of address in the same block, how is possible? on: June 12, 2023, 08:03:16 AM
thanks!
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Abnormal BTC transfer in and out of address in the same block, how is possible? on: June 12, 2023, 07:43:32 AM
> The private key of address A was probably compromised and the thief stole the fund.

we all agree on that part.

> The thief saw the receiving transaction to the address A and made a transaction to address B while the transaction to address A was still unconfirmed.
The fee paid for these transactions was high enough and a miner include both of them in the same block.

So the Tx from Kraken (in the mempool) is considered unconfirmed, and because it is in the mempool, it's ok to spend the utxo of this tx in another Tx?

This can obviously be only done by some mempool-watching bots.

Is it common to see this pattern in the blockchain?
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Abnormal BTC transfer in and out of address in the same block, how is possible? on: June 12, 2023, 07:13:14 AM
A user contacted me about a weird / abnormal situation that caused them to lose 1.26869 BTC when transferring from Kraken to an wallet address under their control.

I can confirm that the situation (as seen on the blockchain) is very abnormal, and I cannot understand what caused it.

Basically, one BTC block contains 2 Txs:

- one is the transfer from Kraken to the user account address A (it's a native segqwit address in user wallet) which is the Tx that the user initialed by a withdrawal from Kraken,

- and in the same BTC block, there is a suspicious Tx from the user account address A to an unrecognized segwit address B that is not under control of the user, for a similar amount.

My understanding is that 1) this second (suspicious) Tx that moved the user funds could only have been signed by the user's private key - so likely a case of leaked key - and 2) this suspicious Tx sending the funds to address B could not have been normally initiated because no funds were on address A before the withdrawal from Kraken (which is mined in the same BTC block).

Can the BTC network (mempool) accept a Tx that moves funds from an address that has no balance / utxo?

This situation seems very abnormal to me, and the only way I think it could happen is with this BTC block 793728 being crafted by a malicious miner (or maybe a bot scanning the mempool?) who had access to the user's private key, in order to include the malicious signed Tx (A -> B) in that same block where the Kraken withdrawal was done, that deposits funds to address A.

Here are the info:

address A: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/bc1q927v5jvzm9pxkdxr0l8q325r3mrz8e9jp56cga (you can see both Txs on this page)

address B: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/bc1qn3rwwaaayt4ugusftlzac22rmve29mqcg6v5dt (where the BTC are now sitting)

BTC block: 793728

Have you guys seen anything like that before? And why is such a hack possible?
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [KAYI] Kayicoin on: December 24, 2017, 05:08:42 AM
I have some Kayicoin (KAYI) on Cryptopia.

Will they automatically be converted into the new token?

if yes, when?, and when will they be tradable again on Cryptopia?

If no, what is the exact procedure we need to do to recover and trade our cryptopia KAYI (Kayicoin) token?

Thanks on behalf on all people holding Kayicoin on Cryptopia....
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