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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] wysker - Join the Mobile Shopping Revolution✨ [30% PRESALE BONUS] on: December 30, 2017, 09:05:33 PM
Dear Wysker Team

Why is it that you would like to create 3,000,000,000 WysTokens, which means that in cash given the 1 ETH = 18'123 WYS exchange rate you expect to collect 165,535 ETH, which is currently (with the ETH price @ coinbase of this very moment I am writing this post) arround 120,000,000 EUR with a UG company?

If I am correct you want to sell slightly above half of it in the ICO (1'782'692'308 WYS), which brings the above figure down to let's say 60,000,000 EUR. Ok, let us even take the 30% and 15% discounts, make it an average of 20% and deduct this from this 60mln EUR. We still end up with 48,000,000 EUR.

And you want to persuade the community, that your highly educated and experienced founders do not have 25,000 EUR to set up a regular limited liability company in Germany, which requires a minimal capital of 25,000 EUR? I can only draw the following conclusion: the team - or at least the founders - do not believe in this project enought to put 25K EUR out of their own pockets in order to get 50 mln EUR from the market! What kind of approach is that?!?

For the readers, who do not understand the difference between GmbH and UG companies I paste some links below from official sites
https://www.stuttgart.ihk24.de/english/fairplay/Company_Law/GmbH_and_UG_haftungsbeschraenkt_Information_on_their_Foundati/679026
(IHK stands for Chamber of Commerce and Industry)
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unternehmergesellschaft_(haftungsbeschr%C3%A4nkt)
(You can translate this into English easily)

The bottom-line dear friends is, that a UG is considered as a joke in the German reality - no one wants to deal with you as an UG because you are not treated serious - to have a capital of a few Euros...Ask any notary or lawyer or experienced enterpreneur in Germany if you do not believe teh above.
I know what I am saying, because I had such a company set up myself.

Oh, and by the way - if you would like to see where the seat of this not-yet-48MLN EUR company is, then here you go - in a HOSTEL?!?

https://www.google.pl/maps/place/Novalisstra%C3%9Fe+14,+10115+Berlin,+Niemcy/@52.5282767,13.3887483,3a,75y,228h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1su7K8hGe69p5OqrIJvDA59Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Du7K8hGe69p5OqrIJvDA59Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D86%26h%3D86%26yaw%3D228.45786%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x47a851e94ed83f83:0xf3af760922b9a863!8m2!3d52.5281506!4d13.3885664

Congrats on you credibility...again!


Would be great to read your reasonable explanations on the above.

Cheers!

P.S. I can understand that someone did not advise you well, but how can one trust you even 1 EUR - not to speak of 1 ETH - if you even cannot pick the right advisors for a "multi-bilion-dollar opportunity" as we can read on your webpage?
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] wysker - Blockchain-Powered Mobile Shopping ✨ [30% PRESALE BONUS] on: December 30, 2017, 03:31:46 PM
Dear Wysker Team

Why is it that you would like to create 3,000,000,000 WysTokens, which means that in cash given the 1 ETH = 18'123 WYS exchange rate you expect to collect 165,535 ETH, which is currently (with the ETH price @ coinbase of this very moment I am writing this post) arround 120,000,000 EUR with a UG company?

If I am correct you want to sell slightly above half of it in the ICO (1'782'692'308 WYS), which brings the above figure down to let's say 60,000,000 EUR. Ok, let us even take the 30% and 15% discounts, make it an average of 20% and deduct this from this 60mln EUR. We still end up with 48,000,000 EUR.

And you want to persuade the community, that your highly educated and experienced founders do not have 25,000 EUR to set up a regular limited liability company in Germany, which requires a minimal capital of 25,000 EUR? I can only draw the following conclusion: the team - or at least the founders - do not believe in this project enought to put 25K EUR out of their own pockets in order to get 50 mln EUR from the market! What kind of approach is that?!?

For the readers, who do not understand the difference between GmbH and UG companies I paste some links below from official sites
https://www.stuttgart.ihk24.de/english/fairplay/Company_Law/GmbH_and_UG_haftungsbeschraenkt_Information_on_their_Foundati/679026
(IHK stands for Chamber of Commerce and Industry)
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unternehmergesellschaft_(haftungsbeschr%C3%A4nkt)
(You can translate this into English easily)

The bottom-line dear friends is, that a UG is considered as a joke in the German reality - no one wants to deal with you as an UG because you are not treated serious - to have a capital of a few Euros...Ask any notary or lawyer or experienced enterpreneur in Germany if you do not believe teh above.
I know what I am saying, because I had such a company set up myself.

Oh, and by the way - if you would like to see where the seat of this not-yet-48MLN EUR company is, then here you go - in a HOSTEL?!?

https://www.google.pl/maps/place/Novalisstra%C3%9Fe+14,+10115+Berlin,+Niemcy/@52.5282767,13.3887483,3a,75y,228h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1su7K8hGe69p5OqrIJvDA59Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Du7K8hGe69p5OqrIJvDA59Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D86%26h%3D86%26yaw%3D228.45786%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x47a851e94ed83f83:0xf3af760922b9a863!8m2!3d52.5281506!4d13.3885664

Congrats on you credibility...again!


Would be great to read your reasonable explanations on the above.

Cheers!

P.S. I can understand that someone did not advise you well, but how can one trust you even 1 EUR - not to speak of 1 ETH - if you even cannot pick the right advisors for a "multi-bilion-dollar opportunity" as we can read on your webpage?
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