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Well it's been five months and the criminal is unsurprisingly still at large. Check out the "9. TERM AND TERMINATION" section of WhoisGuard's terms of service, and the "12. NECESSARY DISCLOSURE" section of WhoisGuard's privacy policy. Seems like it would be fairly straight forward for a law enforcement agency to request this information, and maybe even civilians if BT broke their terms and conditions. Has anyone approached any authorities at all? |
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There won't be anymore news. These HYIP sites are a dime a dozen. Check out the "blacklist" section of http://www.hyipexplorer.com/ It currently has over 32,000 records, of which BT represents just 0.003%. BT differed only in that they advertised on Reddit and Blockchain and justified their earnings with mining. Other than that, it was a cookie cutter HYIP. There is no reason to assume authorities will pursue BT over the tens of thousands of other concurrent scams. The matter is further clouded by the victims attempts to collaborate, unable to even subtract the correct numbers in question, despite being corrected every time the issue is raised. Deposits - withdrawals = money lost. All victims first attempts to collaborate on this point always include "value of shares" which in my case, makes my losses appear double of what they actually are. Additionally you have multiple victims taking the lead, so they all have their own aggregate of losses combined from a different sets of participants. Take away: We've all been had, authorities won't even investigate, they're never going to get caught, even if they did, they don't have enough of the money to pay people back. Write this off as a lesson learned, and be skeptical of "too good to be true" in the future. Cheers! |
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I submitted an abuse report to CloudFlare the day before the website disappeared. This was their response. Please note, they identify a hosting provider, Secured Servers, that differs from some of the other information people have already provided. Hope this helps! CloudFlare received your abuse report regarding: bitcoin-trader.biz Please be aware CloudFlare is a network provider offering a reverse proxy, pass-through security service. We are not a hosting provider. CloudFlare does not control the content of our customers. Accepted URL(s) on bitcoin-trader.biz: https://bitcoin-trader.biz/ Hosting Provider: ----------------- SECUREDSERVERS SECURED SERVERS LLC SSL-65 Abuse Contact: -------------- ABUSE1536-ARIN Abuse +1-480-422-2022 abuse@securedservers.comWe have notified our customer of your report, and we have forwarded your report on to the responsible hosting provider. You may also direct your report to: 1. The provider where bitcoin-trader.biz is hosted (provided above); 2. The owner listed in the WHOIS record for bitcoin-trader.biz and/or; 3. The contact listed on the bitcoin-trader.biz site. Note: A lookup of the IP for a CloudFlare customer website will show CloudFlare IPs because we are a pass-through network. The actual website is still hosted at the hosting provider indicated above. If the hosting provider has any questions, please have the hosting provider contact us directly regarding this site. Due to attempted abuse of our complaint reporting process, we will only provide the IP of bitcoin-trader.biz to the responsible hosting provider if they contact us directly at abusereply@cloudflare.com. Regards, CloudFlare Abuse |
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Are you referring to the official or unofficial group?
My bad, it appears as though I'm confused. I was referring to the official group. |
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I don't see anyone having been banned.
Dozens of us have been banned. I actually left the group, voluntarily, a week before "the incident", and decided to join again to watch the show. My join request was answered by being blocked. I am unable to even view the non-member group "homepage". |
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'John Carley' doesn't sound very Asian, could you provide a little more detail please.
Fake Name Generator |
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That's the rub though. We aren't talking about deposits, we're talking about sending the bitcoin from the BT account to the people who placed withdrawals. Sending from their wallet, not receiving on their wallet.
The word "deposit" was just a single function I pulled out of a hat to signify business critical processes handled by a full node, but is by no means the only one. For a complete API reference, please, refer here. It is not unreasonable, at all, to assume that their management tool (shadow scripts) relies completely on this API for any, and probably all, BTC related activity. Attempts to process cashouts, manually, outside of their management tool, though possible, in theory, would almost certainly have a negative impact on the integrity of the data stored in their management tool's DB. Now, whether this is really what is happening, or just another excuse to buy them 5 more days of covering their tracks and milking a few more bucks out of duping more saps into "investing", remains to be seen. We'll know on Monday or Tuesday. I'm place my bets on HYIP/Ponzi (1% daily, really!?), but I like to think that $2 mil isn't enough to run off with and they are hoping to keep it going until they get to double digits. |
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What makes no sense is sending a payment doesn't require you have the blockchain fully downloaded and updated. You just have to broadcast the transaction.
At this point I believe that BT is just one of a thousand HYIPs out there. However, I must disagree with this particular statement. Most BTC companies require the ability to generate new random addresses on the fly for deposits, and what not, as well as a wide range of other functions that are accomplished using API commands directed at full node. The full node does all the heavy lifting, and their software just shoots off commands and receives responses. There may be public nodes, that are accessible, out there, but I am not aware of any. Most companies choose to keep their business critical node, internally, to control variables like performance, security, etc. Reference: I develop BTC apps that require full node API access for heavy lifting regarding customer deposits and balances. |
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