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Those "competitors" pictures for people who do not have experience always amaze me: https://alt.estate/images/comparison-table.jpg Few questions guys: 1) How can you evaluate the go to market strategy of other projects by "yes" and "no"? You don't even know their plans. 2) How can you evaluate the financial model so simply by "yes" and "no"? By the way, you are not the first - ATLANT introduced the demo of their decentralized platform some time ago and now they are very close to launch. How can you say "Alt.Estate Is the First Tokenization Project With a Solid Go-to-Market Strategy" in the whitepaper? No other project launched so as stated before, you don't know their go to market strategy. Same for other platforms. The same things which were in Kickstarter and Indiegogo now flip into crypto world .. "world's first" products which are few years on market etc. But well, for crypto investors it is enough, right? |
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It does not matter, anonymous person can scam you, person with published name, LinkedIn etc. can too. Company running a coin can go bankrupt. In each of those occasions, you lose money. How are you going to get your money back from person who does not have any money left? Putting him in prison won't return you the money How are you going to get money from company which went bankrupt and has no money?
Ask yourself - if you founded a coin which has tens or hundreds M USD marketcap and possibly have access to let's say 10% of total supply (for operations, marketing, devs etc.), would you be comfortable walking on street knowing that people know you have millions or tens of millions of USD wealth? There are legit reasons behind some cryptofounders going anonymous and I respect that.
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My two higher-risk investments are:
1) PRL+SHL
Mainnet this month, revolutionary concept of monetizing web pages without ads by using miniscule amount of CPU power of users (few percent, same as displaying an animated ad basically) and secure IOTA based storage for users, potential of running a hook or broker node based on IOTA node to make even more profit.
2) ATL
Unique building tokenization (Propy and other "building-based" blockchains do something else).
They are extremely regulatory oriented and strive to provide fully legal solution. I am from Europe so holding ATL long-term and running a node has a chance to give a very good profit to me. 7% worth of all buildings tokenized on the platform per year is given to node providers. So there is possible profit of at least several dollars per one ATL token per year if only 2B USD building were tokenized on the platform - if you look how much one shopping centre costs (2 stories, 5000m^2 about 30M USD), really no big deal to get to 2B USD with 40-50 large buildings. A con is that you cannot run a node if you are not from Europe now (until regulatory things will get cleared in other countries but currently the team wants to launch in Europe to keep everything legal).
Currently both PRL+SHL and ATL are very cheap and promising alts in months to come.
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Oyster (PRL) and Elixir (ELIX)
Oyster Pearl and Oyster Shell for sure. Oyster pearl is a must, but oyster shell? It makes no sense, it is like a copycat, it sounds like a new fork. LMAO. It is full of gems, take a look over Dragonchain, i am sure that it will be worth over $10 during the next year. Next time, please invest 5 minutes of your time into research before writing "new fork", "copycat" etc.. Oyster Shell is än airdropped coin by Oyster Protocol team. Its usage was announced in the original whitepaper and the airdrop to all PRL holders was this month. |
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Hey,
I have noticed a very strange thing - PRL did have an airdrop of SHL yesterday. Originally it was planned to be on April 6th but it moved. Few days before the first airdrop date (April 6th), the CoinExchange.io PRL went under maintenance (so no withdrawals were allowed). The wallet was in maintenance till the airdrop. I have checked now, few hours after airdrop and you know what - the wallet is fully working now.
Someone asked on Oyster telegram, they knew about the issue but there was nothing they could do. Also, CoinExchange.io won't receive the airdropped SHL as exchanges which do not participate in the airdrop (Kucoin only did participate) will be disqualified. So I don't even know what would be the motivation to lock the wallet - letting people sell their PRL = dumping the price so CE can benefit from that?
If it was prepared in advance - "well done, CoinExchange.io, well done, one more reason to go away from you".
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IOTA isn't designed to be a currency per say. Their team suck at designing a user-friendly wallet, because they are mainly engineers and mathematicians who are focusing on the IoT aspect of the technology.
But on the front of adoption in real-world IoT use-cases, IOTA is actually making very impressive progress!
If you want a coin that has zero fees and fast transaction that is designed to function as a currency coin only (and nothing more), then go for Nano; which its aim is to compete with BTC but cannot be used as a IoT bridge like IOTA is designed for.
I would not say they focus on IoT aspect only. IOTA is one from the few (if not the only one) which wants to deliver a sustainable blockchain long-term. It is the math aspect which makes it different. Other coins and tokens just utilize what already is on the market and sooner or later, BTC and ETH will struggle from the size of the blockchain. IOTA purposedly "forgets" the old transactions in order to make the blockchain size bearable for the nodes. IOTA is unique - it has problems but it is due to the complexity of the system. When coordinators will be gone, the speed and use cases for IOTA will be endless. Look at Oyster Protocol - they use IOTA tangle as file storage and monetize users' webpages without ads at the same time. |
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Note: I have a couple hundred thousands ESP in my bag
It all depends on what investment do you prefer - trading? short term? long term (1y+)? Espers has some interesting applications according to the whitepaper - it is not only about messages on chain and websites on chain (which is itself very interesting). It is like a Substratum with much more to offer - Espers may serve as a "glue" between blockchains. Current blockchain world is very fragmented and ESP has some technology to solve at least a part of this. But it will be a long run - if you like to risk, keep your ESP and you may be rewarded in a long term horizon. Or not .. you know, crypto is risky.
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Ive been a big fan of elixir and think the devs are doing a great job but the price is volatile and keeps dropping now and i dont have shaky hands and I definitely wont pull my money out of this project but I was wondering what are your guys's expectations for elixirs price at the end of 2018?
Elixir is not a worthy project so we don't expect anything in this coin. But this year end it will reach 2 to 3 USD is possible because number of altcoins are available in the market and continuously launching the altcoins also so future possibilities of this coin is indeterminant. So better you should exchange this coin is the right decision. I am just predict the previous value this coin. I wouldn't say it is unworthy. It is waiting for the product to be launched. When it does, market will determine if people will start using it or not. Doing zero marketing without product is completely OK and I prefer this route rather than making bombastic annoucements on Twitter that new update will be posted in few hours etc. |
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can suggest 2 or 3 coin with good potential and team . no ico .
PRL - a coin with very impressive product being launched in April - combines cloud storage on IOTA tangle with website monetization (websites can get rid of ads thanks to Oyster Protocol) |
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Can someone please explain what this will mean for my investment. I am pretty much all in on PRL right now and after reading about this I'm not sure what to do, whether I should hodl or not. If they peg the price, say $4 per 64G and they're selling 512 GB per PRL wouldn't that put each PRL at a set price of $32? If this is the case my ROI would be huge but it almost seems too good to be true. Any word on when this price peg will occur? I'm assuming with MainNet launc. Any help would be hugely appreciated. I've posted in servely different places with no replies. Thanks
The price is not pegged - PRL is not Tether. The price of PRL is pegged to storage and the peg will increase over time. Example - let's say that 1 PRL will equal 128GB which corresponds to let's say 10 USD (market will stabilize). In few months, 1 PRL will equal more - let's say 256GB. It is likely that the price will increase 2x. And do not forget that if you participate in the airdrop (= have your PRL outside of exchanges, unless some of them will participate), you will receive 1 SHL for each 1 PRL. SHL is purely speculative asset and it is not pegged to anything. Oyster Protocol is an ecosystem containing one speculative and one non-speculative (or partially speculative) asset. |
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These accusations - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3055715.0TL:DR version - team did not do almost anything, it is just shadowcoin with cosmetic changes .. TOR OBFSv4 integration is somewhat jerky .. etc. Unless all of those are cleared up, XSPEC will continue to fall. |
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At current price, PRL is a good buy, ICX I don't follow so much so won't comment.
NEO is priced pretty good right now too but in my eyes is a longer term hold than say PRL
What type of risk are you looking to take and how long to hold? I'll recommend others based on your feedback
I feel like PRL and ICX are minimal risk. I'd like to hold 9-12 months. What would be your high risk picks? If you're looking for lower cap coins, IoT Chain might be a good one. I don't like calling coins the x of China, but the simplest explanation for IoT Chain is the IOTA of China. Outside the top 100 at the moment. ITC is only a token, isn't it? If so, it only uses Ethereum blockchain and thus aims to be nowhere as advanced as IOTA. IOTA aims to create something which Bitcoin and Ethereum can't achieve - scalable blockchain. |
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Use this calculation:
[Money I have now] = [Money I have invested] * [Coin/token value now] / [Coin/token value when I bought]
Do not use market cap for your calculation - the amount of coins/tokens in circulation may change over time.
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Bitconnect - with the words of cryptoshill kids hanging around here - good tech, low marketcap, big potential gains  |
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500$ is a small investment. If it is not very significant to you (for example if you are a student and it is more than 15% of your entire money you have), I would focus on some low to medium market cap altcoins (~80M to ~500M) with solid project focused on general public. These projects have the biggest chance to survive in long term I think.
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People often compare Oyster to Sia, storj and BAT ... here is an interesting review to read: https://www.reddit.com/r/Oyster/comments/7x6804/info_why_oyster_is_better_than_bat_sia_storj_why/My point to the comment that says that people won't want to give their CPU power to "mining". Rendering ads also consumes power but what is worse, it slows down the website loading and when on mobile, it consumes mobile data... Personally, I would love to give anything but mobile data to website owners to generate revenue. |
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Where I can buy these and is it right time to buy these tokens.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/oyster/#marketsIn crypto, you never now but Oyster seems to be a new star in crypto space. Plenty of things to happen next month - 1:1 SHL airdrop, coin burn, testnet B release... |
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OK, two possible scenarios (based on real-life usage):
1) I have a regular PC or laptop running. I use a computer a lot and my PC is running basically for 16 hours a day. I have space storage that I want to use for SIA. Thus, my electricity costs directly caused by Sia are a PC running for 8 hours per day. My PC (old Intel C2D E8400) consumes about 80 watts when on at idle. Let's assume 20 watts in case someone uses his laptop. 8 hours 365 days a year at 20W will give me about 14 dollars per electricity (Europe). If I let Sia use 1TB of storage, from my understanding of Sia, ~340GB can be effectively utilized for (the rest is redundancy). I earn 10.24 USD per year (current price of 2.56 USD/TB/month).
Result - loss of ~4 dollars per year.
2) I will use a dedicated hardware (let's assume something like Raspberry Pi) and 1 TB drive. RPi consumes about 1W of electricity. Let's assume SSD drive which consumes 0.05W in idle. So that means about 1W of power. Yes, then we have the electricity "for free". But your RasPi which is 40 dollars will get paid in more then 3-4 years, not counting the cost of that damn drive. Or you have spare 1TB SSDs for free?
I don't know - try to explain it to me - why is it actually worth for someone to rent its hard drive space. Even if the rewards were 5x that big. Even if I had electricity and the hardware (1TB drive) for free and the prices were x5, I would receive mere 5 USD per month. That is one hour of dishwashing somewhere in the pub like work in my country. And your space has to be 100% utilized which is clearly not the current state of Sia.
Yes - it may make sense for big server players who have hundreds and hundreds of GB spare. But then we are getting closer to centralized storage and not decentralized.
How about 3rd possibility? because 1st one you mentioned won't work at all, you need 99.9%+ uptime to earn good money So...how about four 8TB disks for 32TB overall (about 220kWh per year plus maybe 200kWh more for Intel Atom-like PC) for about $1000 per year minus electricity? That would about 1y ROI, but since whole market is low atm, so is sia coin...not too long ago that would be more than $3000 a year Of course, I took best case scenario, and truth is somewhere in the middle...point of the story is, you can forget using laptop, or anything non-dedicated...you need dedicated rig, same as with GPU mineable coins So the only possible way for Sia to work is to be dependent on a large number of individual large-scale (tens of TB at least) providers which will own the hardware? Well, my opinion is that this won't end well. Sia markets that everyone can rent his free hard drive space for Sia customers. We have concluded that this is not profitable and users have no reason to do that.How are you calculating the Sia rewards? The redundancy is x3 so either only third of space of is used effectively to store user data or the user is charged 3x as much for the data storage. Personally I don't know - do you know how this works? The redundancy must be stored somewhere. That means not 1000USD per year but one third of that which makes your ROI about 4 year-ish counting the electricity. Still not very good. If the price of storage will rise to 3x current cost, the cost advantage against let's say Google Drive or Dropbox diminishes. Then it will be almost solely about speed, apps developed on top of the storage and marketing. |
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Sia coin is a good coin and also the project is really good compare to other sharing HDD but for going to $1 i must say it is almost impossible because of the coin in circullation is pretty big maybe in ten year or maybe not touch that price at all. It is arround 20 billion coin in circullation right ?
Could you please elaborate? I saw numerous times that this project is really good and storage prices are very low but why it should be profitable for storage providers? Current prices almost even do not pay for the electricity consumed due to 24/7 operation. maybe you didn't check lately how much electricity average HDD uses?  On topic, I don't think its possible until network is fully operable and get some major company use it for storage (Netflix, for example) OK, two possible scenarios (based on real-life usage): 1) I have a regular PC or laptop running. I use a computer a lot and my PC is running basically for 16 hours a day. I have spare storage that I want to use for SIA. Thus, my electricity costs directly caused by Sia are a PC running for 8 hours per day. My PC (old Intel C2D E8400) consumes about 80 watts when on at idle. Let's assume 20 watts in case someone uses his laptop. 8 hours 365 days a year at 20W will give me about 14 dollars per electricity (Europe). If I let Sia use 1TB of storage, from my understanding of Sia, ~340GB can be effectively utilized for (the rest is redundancy). I earn 10.24 USD per year (current price of 2.56 USD/TB/month). Result - loss of ~4 dollars per year. 2) I will use a dedicated hardware (let's assume something like Raspberry Pi) and 1 TB drive. RPi consumes about 1W of electricity. Let's assume SSD drive which consumes 0.05W in idle. So that means about 1W of power. Yes, then we have the electricity "for free". But your RasPi which is 40 dollars will get paid in more then 3-4 years, not counting the cost of that damn drive. Or you have spare 1TB SSDs for free? I don't know - try to explain it to me - why is it actually worth for someone to rent its hard drive space. Even if the rewards were 5x that big. Even if I had electricity and the hardware (1TB drive) for free and the prices were x5, I would receive mere 5 USD per month. That is one hour of dishwashing somewhere in the pub like work in my country. And your space has to be 100% utilized which is clearly not the current state of Sia. Yes - it may make sense for big server players who have hundreds and hundreds of GB spare. But then we are getting closer to centralized storage and not decentralized. |
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Sia coin is a good coin and also the project is really good compare to other sharing HDD but for going to $1 i must say it is almost impossible because of the coin in circullation is pretty big maybe in ten year or maybe not touch that price at all. It is arround 20 billion coin in circullation right ?
Could you please elaborate? I saw numerous times that this project is really good and storage prices are very low but why it should be profitable for storage providers? Current prices almost even do not pay for the electricity consumed due to 24/7 operation. |
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