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At this point i would almost rather force him into bankruptcy than continue this charade... The MTGox BS sounds so close to what we have been dealing with but on an accelerated schedule. Makes me thinks I'm a fool for giving my continued trust.
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Yeah, read a lot of other offers, got scared off by most. Been watching and waiting for a while now for these shares to be tradeable again so I can possibly get in on the action. The delays are regrettable, but have been handled very well and were beyond IceDrill's control.
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oyvinds, can you tell me how this proves the site is a scam? It sure is looking like it at the moment but I'm not understanding your post. Many people use an identity protection service for domain registration. bitcointalk uses whoisguard.
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Nope, not saying in anyway that laws were not broken. They obviously were, and we all knew that when we invested our coins! What I am saying is he is not alone in this endeavor, he has a partner everyone seems to forget about, and the quickest link to follow from the site to law enforcement would be via the website and business registration.
That said, any involvement of SEC or ASIC will more than likely not result in any of your funds being returned to you. ASIC actually states that you would need to attempt that on your own.
If people are not willing to try and legally get their funds back, and also are unwilling to pursue the criminal route, continued posting here is pointless.
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If that is the case, I welcome it!!! My WeExchange coins are gone and through this deal, if it did exist, I might actually get something back! Awesome!
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No one here seems to really get it. This information was posted before but I guess not everyone has kept up with the thread. Go ahead and try to file something with the SEC if you like however I don't believe it will do you any good. There is a WeExchange registered in the US however the actual website site is registered and owned by WeExchange Australia PTY.LTD. (ACN: 152 308 23). With Graeme Tee (Graet) and Jon Montroll (Ukyo) as the sole owners/directors. Nowhere within the United States legal system can I find anything that links the US company with the actual website or Australian organization. All of this has been previously posted All documentation supporting documentation for this claim can be found here: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bza0Sx1iSRWqYVRiMkRaLVlrcFE&usp=sharingA sample ASIC (Australian Securities and Investment Commission) can be found here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bza0Sx1iSRWqODhZMktJdW9sMjA/edit?usp=sharingA free text sample of the complaint can be found here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bza0Sx1iSRWqNjhEdHRhM2RLMzA/edit?usp=sharingA conversation with Graeme regarding my intent to file an ASIC complaint can be found here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bza0Sx1iSRWqZEVscUZFeDVJaFE/edit?usp=sharingA conversation with Ukyo where he states that I may, if I wish, file an ASIC complaint and it will be handled appropriately. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bza0Sx1iSRWqZEVscUZFeDVJaFE/edit?usp=sharingThe involvement of Neo & Bee at this point can only be a good thing. Based on the above documentation, it was already a really good guess that our funds with WeExchange were gone. While I believe that Jon is trying his best to redeem the situation, his management of it too date has been very poor. Neo & Bee just got involved in this situation and as mentioned previously by others, they are trying to help. Lets give them that chance before going on the offensive with them. I for one am glad they are involved and have stated that they are working toward some means to return everyones coins to them. The coins with WeExchange are gone and someone is going out of their way to try and help you get them back! If you feel you need to take action, the ASIC forms are provided above, and you are free to contact a lawyer for legal advice at any time. Continuing to complain on these forums is a waste of everyones time. KrimsonKla |
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Let us know if you get it back. Would be good to know this is not a scam.
I had not used the service because some of the prices seemed too high. I received an email from them the other day though saying that due to the increase in BTC, they were drastically reducing them.
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Just found BitPlastic where you can manage a wallet that provides funds to a Visa debit card for use with any online retailer, point of sale retailer or ATM. I have not tried this service yet so do not consider this an endorsement. Just an interesting development. http://www.BitPlastic.com |
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[18:04] <@Ukyo> ...at this point shit "has" hit the fan
[18:04] <@Ukyo> just to what level is the issue...
People need information in order to make decisions. As has been requested, shitfanleaks will be periodically posting information. This will be done until Ukyo, aka Jon Montroll of Texas, processes and pays ALL pending weexchange withdrawals to ALL users. Information posted here this time is of the public domain. http://www.corporationwiki.com/Texas/Fort-Worth/jon-montroll/37602852.aspx"Cologuys, Inc. located at Fort Worth, TX filed as a Domestic For-Profit Corporation in the State of Texas on Wednesday, December 13, 2006. This corporation is no longer active according to documents filed with Texas Secretary of State. Jon Montroll's of Texas past corporate interests include the President of Cologuys, Inc. and the Director of Weexchange, Inc. located in Dallas, TX" More to come. shitfanleaks will stop posting as soon as Jon Montroll from Texas has processed and payed ALL pending weexchange withdrawals to ALL users. Users having information, leaks and/or links and wanting it to be published just send a PM. Let me correct some miss information. Per a conversation with Graet, WeExchange is operated by two companies. WeExchange Australia ( https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bza0Sx1iSRWqcDh0bXZGVXRTSU0/edit?usp=sharing) and WeExchange US. I have done a LOT of research into both organizations. The US company is now registered in Delaware: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bza0Sx1iSRWqb0RwTVp3SnVCdms/edit?usp=sharing |
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Sorry for the chunks... Ukyo has not talked this much in a long time so I keep expecting he is done. [18:05] <@Ukyo> thanks [18:07] <kanoi> Well - just to state the obvious - you'll need to explain how a wallet issue has turned into some other issue coz otherwise few will believe you (since the original issue was simply a wallet issue) [18:07] <@Ukyo> yeah [18:07] <@Ukyo> that will all be explained. [18:08] <@Ukyo> whats being done to resolve the situation, whos involved, etc [18:10] <kanoi> ... and I also presume that you reliase that if you have been using the weex funds elsewehere and lost any of them - you'll have a lynch mob after you  [18:11] <w|zzy> hi Ukyo [18:12] <@Ukyo> kanoi: I did not spend the funds. -_-; [18:12] <@Ukyo> w|zzy your update is coming along with everyone elses [18:12] <@Ukyo> I have a ton of documentation to put together still today [18:12] <@Ukyo> so i need to get back to that [18:12] <@Ukyo> as i said, just wanted talk to ppl for a bit [18:13] <kanoi> yes - was just mentioning that if that was in the explanation - you'll need to run [18:13] <nsa_> [18:13] <w|zzy> my problem is a different one though.. [18:13] <@Ukyo> your reserve will be fixed tonight/tomorrow [18:13] <@Ukyo> then your in the same boat [18:14] <@Ukyo> the old beta is shut down [18:14] <@Ukyo> kanoi: well, no worries about that being in the explanation [18:14] <kanoi>  [18:14] <@Ukyo> the only funds I spent was from the loan stuff [18:14] <w|zzy> that's fine. I don't have any withdrawals in place [18:14] <@Ukyo> and i didnt even get to spend as much of that as I wanted [18:14] <@Ukyo> or my own coins |
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[17:59] <@Ukyo> Just waiting on confirmation of the final peice
[18:00] <VinceSamios> Are funds safe Ukyo?
[18:00] <kanoi> as we all are waiting ...
[18:01] <@Ukyo> VinceSamios: Funds will be discussed during the post.
[18:01] <VinceSamios> That's a no then.
[18:02] <@Ukyo> Take it how you wnt to. but details will be provided.
[18:02] <VinceSamios> Lost or seized?
[18:02] <@Ukyo> I am expecting all users to get their owed btc.
[18:02] <VinceSamios> seized then.
[18:02] <@Ukyo> sigh
[18:02] <@Ukyo> I am expecting all users to get their owed btc via me.
[18:02] <@Ukyo> and my control.
[18:03] <VinceSamios> You've got to forgive me for following the logical path of a lack of information
[18:03] <@Ukyo> better?
[18:03] <@Ukyo> see
[18:03] <@Ukyo> heres the issue
[18:03] <@Ukyo> your getting bits and peices
[18:03] <@Ukyo> without the full story
[18:03] <VinceSamios> yup it is an issue
[18:03] <@Ukyo> this is why i stopped posting on the forums
[18:03] <VinceSamios> you're right
[18:03] <@Ukyo> the full story is not complete yet.
[18:03] <@Ukyo> until that time consider all of this guess work at best.
[18:03] <VinceSamios> Simple posts like "funds a safe" are all that's needed
[18:04] <@Ukyo> thats depending on point of view, is it not ?
[18:04] <@Ukyo> anywho, i need to get back to working on things.
[18:04] <VinceSamios> The only assumption anyone can make if you don't provide that info, is that shit has hit the fan
[18:04] <@Ukyo> I just wanted to stop and talk here for a bit since I saw someone looking for me
[18:04] <VinceSamios> I'm a supporter of yours Ukyo
[18:04] <VinceSamios> for the record
[18:04] <@Ukyo> VinceSamios: at this point shit "has" hit the fan
[18:04] <@Ukyo> just to what level is the issue
[18:05] <@Ukyo> but I a doing everything I can
[18:05] <@Ukyo> to resolve it and insure everyone is taken care of to the best of my ability
[18:05] <VinceSamios> IF you need any help let me know - I'm going to chill now with my wife and an episode of something
[18:05] <@Ukyo> thanks
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[17:58] <kanoi> so the issue has now changed from being a wallet issue into some other issue ....
[17:59] <@Ukyo> kanoi: this is why there will be a public announcement
[17:59] <@Ukyo> so everythings 100% complete and together on exactly what/when/how/why
[17:59] <@Ukyo> instead of some things guessed and peiced together
[17:59] <@Ukyo> Just waiting on confirmation of the final peice
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In an IRC conversation between me and Graet, playing proxy between myself and Ukyo, I was told that Ukyo would make a statement to either myself personally or to the public today. Based on the nature of that conversation I fully expect Ukyo to follow through and provide a statement of some form. Sadly, I have no insight into what said statement may include.
KrimsonKla
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