I don't dispute that i created and sent "a" transaction, simply not this specific transaction. I had unconfirmed coins in my wallet. I also had about 31.67USD confirmed actual balance. I selected "max" then send to another online wallet (mine). The unconfirmed coins never arrived to electrum unilaterally and summarily sent 1 usd or so with a fee of 30 usd.
so yes, i created a tx but did not define 1.67 with a 30 USD fee. You see where i take exception with electrum redefining terms?

I don't care about the 31 dollars because this was ever just an experiment and educational venture. I did learn not to engage in a transaction with unconfirmed coins. electrum will disregard any unconfirmed coins and attach whatever fee, regardless of how ludicrous , it deems like the thing to do.

I'm good with it. i also know more than i did going in. mission accomplished.



"The fee is not related to the amount sent"  how does that work?  what is the fee related to?

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this is the one where it took it upon itself to course correct: i had max option for unconfirmed btc which did not arrive and the history display showed unconfirmed parent and could not be found in block explorer. latter it showed the tx id above completed.


in the history is shows today's date but in block explorer in shows the correct dat being 6 jan. hit had dust in the fee box earlier this am and low fee. now out of the ble simultaneously with the other anomaly
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this completed.

edit: unknowingly did a Child Pays For Parent. fair enough but that is my issue i did not click/ok.... that. i'd prefer to make thar choice.

also my Tx number is actually quite low, minus the Tx 6 jan and then 8 jan which was not found until electrum? reconfigured the Tx to send 1 dollar for 30 dollars. god bless capitalism!

also last but not least i neglected to thank you @AdolfinWolf. not just everyone is willing to share their knowledge, skills and abilities.

Conforming to the security advisory I upgraded to Electrum 3.0.5.

I had a grand total of ~ 31.69 USD. So, iaw the idiom " an education is not free". I decided to roll the dice and see what popped out:
I sent the max option to my blockchain.info wallet. That displayed in history as unconfirmed parent nod could not be found in the default block explorer. I had previously experimented with a negligible amount from the blockchain. info account for 11 USD with about 1.27 USD fee. That remained as Low Fee since saturday with no change. the Block explorer showed something in the fee box about "dust".
So after the Electrum finished migrating or whatever it does the history now displays 2 Tx's that I did not initiate precisely. The dates were both today (8 January). Blockchain.info shows the 2 completed Tx's with the correct date 6th and the 8th.
So what made the original (11 USD with about 1.27 USD fee" suddenly complete then suddenly complete a send of about 1.67 and a fee of 30 USD. Strictly speaking the unconfirmed amount never arrived but it created the Tx of 1.67 and fee 30.00.

I don't really know what the takeaway is from that but not really wild about the idea of the electrum creating a Tx with whatever it has at some later date from a transaction that could not be found in block explorer.

What am I missing here? i'm good with the educational cost but i'd like to get the education part.

i received your pm but due to my newbie status i can't respond in that specific way but due to the fact you were kind enough to take my cause i felt compelled to reply the best i could.

So here is weird, in a way that just doesn't happen to me. just straight up inexplicable and this was not a mix up of TX's,
This is from recipient with my social commentary asides:

from recipient:
got your transfer this afternoon!

me:
(sent this yesterday am) (also about an hour or so ago deleted all electrum files and then reinstalled using the existing WALLET GENERATION SEED) then chose manually to select a different server) got zero clue if that played any part in this but the client continues to show yellow triangle Replaceable. the client shows the correct balance with the Tx completed.

from recipient:
it shows there was no confirmation but the money was in the wallet which is weird, but succeed to withdrew it then, so it's all good, you don't have to resend it!
Also when it was withdrawn the fees were only 8 bucks! I was surprised I was expecting 40-50$


So count me clueless but there goes another chunk of this spinning ball of mud with us playing with code that is apt to do anything.

Thank you and the rest of you guys for being willing to bother with someone else's problem. that is rare these days so fortunately you guys are the exception. i am old enough to know the difference.
For example yahoo answers had a few children that wouldn't know a cryptocurrency or the code if it were gnawing on their great toe.

also, thank you in particular @bob123 but to all as well!

As I say, do please dumb it down for me.

From what I've seen, there is no apparent way to clear the electrum history.


I removed the following
So clear:
Go to \Users\YourUserName\AppData\Roaming\Electrum\wallets (or %APPDATA%\Electrum\wallets)   ?

Then created a new wallet with the WALLET GENERATION SEED? Used existing Seed since I had a balance on the client (client for what is worth and that isn't much)

I changed to another server.

The history is still the same but the server is new and the client reloaded all the previous transactions.

Is that what needed to be done?


If you would, please walk me through that. This could be quite meaningful to me.

Thank you so much Xynerise. I will try the mining pools you referred to. "This could be expensive" regarding the Child-pays-for-parent transactions. I am not inclined not to pile a ton more money into this. From where I sit I get this electrum app, follow the directions, then end up here.

If I were to sit and leave it to do who knows what, will the transaction drop off the mempool... and return to this wallet or is it history? If the Tx does cancel or funds return to me how long does that take.

Thank you @pooya87 for your insight. I won't even pretend to understand how this happened. I increased another Tx and no problem. Of course that was simply a few buck trial send.

If you would, where does that leave me now? How does this end and or is there anything I can do. Please explain to me as you might a 7 year old. Clearly this is not a plug and play scenario. So, I send 0.0257333 XBT to a single address with a ~ 0.00185205 XBT = 27.5339USD Fee. Then I'm looking at a "Replaceable" yellow ! triangle that seems to have no explicit function aside from "This ain't going nowhere" alert.
I would ask what I did wrong aside from not paying much more than 27 bucks, which seems pointless at this point.

More to the point:
1. What can I do now?
2. How does this end?
3. Any options?

Obviously I am really in need of any help you would be kind enough to provide.

REPLACEABLE increase fee cannot bump fee: could not find suitable outputs. Electrum 3.0.3
0.0049673 BTC is the balance.

The following are the TX details ( any ideas what the problem is and how I might dig my way out of this imbecile crypto mess:

Estimated TX Value   0.02573330 BTC
UNCONFIRMED   
OPT-IN RBF   
Thursday, January 4th 2018, 10:51:53 -06:00   
blockchain search   
View on BTC.com
BITCOIN TRANSACTION
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Estimated TX Value   0.02573330 BTC
Confirmations   UNCONFIRMED
OPT-IN RBF
Relay time
Thursday, January 4th 2018, 10:51:53 -06:00
Total Inputs   0.02763837 BTC
Total Outputs   0.02578632 BTC
Fee   0.00185205 BTC
Fee / KB   0.00227245 BTC
Size   815 bytes
Estimated Change   0.00005302 BTC
sent to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
5 INPUTS
Total Inputs: 0.02763837 BTC
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
2 OUTPUTS
0.00005302 BTC change

Captures are available if helpful. There are sufficient funds to increase the fee. No confirmation.

27 USD current Fee paid

375 USD transaction.