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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: December 28, 2018, 09:11:39 PM
Hahaha another lie about the new website. Multiple times was said it will be before the end of the year and now is the Q1 of 2019. How bad can you guys be? We are 1 year behind on the white papper, this was planned on there for the end of 2017 and is still not ready. Everything else doesnt matter, thats the most important thing you have to do first. No one will use a site that looks like this, no one, they will close it as soon it loads. This month bitcoin is pretty much even, we are down to 45 satoshi from 105 satoshi at the start of the month, thats more than 50% again. Where are you Benjamin and Tyler to tell us how we follow the market? The market cap is 800k$ from 52M$, its unbelievable how bad is the management of this project, now we need 60x to just get back to the starting point. How cool is this? At this point im praying for Kent to scam someone with brain to buy this shitty company, just like he tricked us to give him 52M$, but lets be honest no one will buy this company, because they can start their own and be at the same level or better for less than a 3 months and it will be much cheaper, because Kent probably think this shit is worth 100M$+ when in reality all his work is probably worth a couple thousand dollars at best .. so we are fucked
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: November 30, 2018, 09:16:35 PM
Oh shit another conference, what a surprise! When is the next trip to another megapolis?? I want to see photos from trips and dinners payed with our money, cmon guys its been awhile.. I want to see how Benjamin compains how he left his third world country Vietnam to go and "promote" Tradove in the best cities in the world, everything payed with our money of course.

What an app release, a Bizcard! HOLY SHIT! Thats what i was waiting for all year! Thanks Tradove!
Jokes aside now... when are you gonna get you shit together, jesus...
Still lying about your users! Where are the 250k users?? The web platform is unuseble and the mobile app have only 5k downloads which im pretty sure its all from people that lost their money investing in this shit.. The reviews are from me and another investors i recognize, that doesnt actually use the app and ofcourse Kent himself also rated the app.. Where are the 250k users guys? Cmon show us proof once and for all! All the users are fake on your platform, you can see this with simple eye! And you still go to this conferences and repeat how easy is to fake account on facebook and likedin, yet your highly "protected" platform anti fake accounts its full ONLY with FAKE ACCOUNTS, look at the irony..... Atleast be honest one time with the people that gave you FIFTY FUCKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!!!!
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: November 10, 2018, 05:25:09 PM
Look at them they dont want to talk in here, because they cant moderate it and cant just ban the negative comments, what a joke this company is.. Look at their Q3 "developement update" or the latest weekly "developement update" - we went to a new conference and we continue with our stupid trivia game. WOW thats what i call BIG DEVELOPEMENT PROGRESS! Nothing has changed, the stupid admins keep blaming the market saying everything is down 80% and they can find hundreds of projects down as much as their own, but they never give any examples. Dear Benjamin and Tyler, we are sure there are thausands not hundreds failed projects out there, thats why we call them shitcoins. But let me ask you how many projects that raised 30+ MILLIONS OF DOLLARS are down 96% of their ICO price? Not talking about 50+ Millions, lets start with 30+. I will wait. Even if we was "only" 80% down we would have 4 times higher price than that we have now, so dont even mention eth or something down 80-85% because its not even close, we talk about VERY BIG DIFFERENCE. I will say it again , if we were down 80% we would be at 0.03$ or even higher not like now 0.007$ , you get the difference dear benjamin and tyler? Everybodys coins would be worth 4 times more than now, i hope you see the difference and stop saying everything is down 80%, because we are down MUCH MORE!

And what happened with the buyback we are below 0.00004 ETH for a long time now and there is no buyback.
https://medium.com/@tra_dove/announcing-bbc-buyback-program-d8e1c971dcd0
Here it only says 1000 eth worth of bbc, there is no time frame, so where the fuck is the buyback? Im pretty confident that there were not 1000 eth spend last time we were below 0.00004, because it was for very short time and with low volume. I expect from the team to stick to their words atleast once and buyback everything below this price, otherwise this is another lie..
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: October 29, 2018, 11:25:09 PM
How many times are you gonna do the same mistake??? STOP GIVING FREE COINS!!!!! How stupid is your advisors team??? Same mistake over and over, even a monkey would understand by now - this is not a good strategy!!! Is this is the only way your advisors team know to "promote" the coin? Giving 10M coins for free on a shit exchange so people can dump it on us... GREAT JOB ONCE AGAIN... LEARN FROM YOUR FUCKING MISTAKES! HOW MANY TIMES THIS HAS TO HAPPEN TO STOP GIVING FREE COINS?Huh?? And the stupid admins keep saying "we dont determine the price" ... like wtf you are giving milions of coins for free that can be sold immediately for profit.. how stupid you have to be to think this airdrop will be positive for the price or even neutral.. every airdrop or twitter contest leads to big dump on this coin and you keep doing them i dont understand.... when you think it cant get any worse, they still surprise you... im impressed
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: October 17, 2018, 05:45:29 AM
When are you going to do real developement progress and share it with us?? All of this medium posts are one big nothing.. going to useless conferences and promoting payed articles in magazines, nothing else.. There was going to be Q&A for the new token/blockchain, didnt happend.. There was going to be revamp to the website ui, didnt happend, still looks the same after a year, which is mindblowing.. All of the "developement updates" are not worth shit, you can do that with less then 500k$ and thats on the high end, probably can be done for much less.. you collected 52M, insane amount of money and since the pre-ico Kent in the AMA's said multiple times that he will use 30M$+ to buy users, where is this massive marketing to "buy" the users, its October and in this articles you are saying the platform have the same amount of users - 250k, which lets be honest its a lie also. There is only 2 months left until the end of the year where you have to gain 750k users to accomplish your goal from the white paper, that seems impossible at this stage.. or maybe you changed the white paper again to "survive" and its not important to get users now? What are you doing with all the money, because from what i see you are spending next to nothing on the project... So, my main question is: Where is this CRITICAL MASS that Kent said 100 times reaching it is so important for the project??

Everything about this project scream DEAD, people have no interest in it at all, TOTAL 0 INTEREST.. the telegram group is dead, less and less people in the group, 10 messages a day and half of them are from the highly unprepared admins which are trying now to do some stupid trivia game like in high school to get people to type something in the chat, dead reddit, no one mention tradove on twitter, if we remove the fake volume from the exchanges made by bots there is probably less than 5K$ trading volume a day.. what the hell is the marketing team doing??
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: August 23, 2018, 02:30:35 PM
TraDove proudly announces our long-awaited blockchain development plan: our creation of a Global B2B Blockchain Payment System!

https://medium.com/@tra_dove/announcement-tradove-blockchain-project-to-create-a-global-b2b-payment-network-c95e27f5acf4

Wait, what? You changed the main idea in your white paper? The end goal and what everyone was waiting for was BBC to be used from the companies to make their international trades and that wont be the case anymore? Do you realise what did you just do for people that gave you money to run your "business" , you changed the markets we aim for..

Market Size
Size of Global B2B Marketing Spending: USD 76 Billion
Volume of International Trade: USD 16 Trillion

This is from your white paper from the start, you lied to everyone that BBC holders will aim for a % of the USD 16 Trillion when in reality we now aim only for % of the USD 76 Billion which is MUCH smaller market..MORE THAN 200 TIMES SMALLER.. Thats a token killer decision right there, thank you guys
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: July 27, 2018, 07:05:00 AM
As a part of our ongoing effort to keep the TraDove community informed on our project, we would like to share with you a new AMA with our CEO Kent Yan.

https://medium.com/@tra_dove/tradove-ama-w-ceo-kent-yan-c2f255e26ab8

"We are making great progresses. We finished all the product development milestones for Q2, including a fully-revamped web service with new UI and business logic, a fully fleshed out Android App and new iOS app features."

Fully revamped web service with new UI? What are you talking about, the site looks still the same as like 6 months ago? Please, please, please hire a good developer and web designers its so worth it to spend a good amount of money on this. That is your face of the company, the most important thing, doesnt matter how good your service is, people will close the page as soon as they look at it if it looks like this. Please hire professional people to do your site, i can't stress this enough its so fucking important and its bothering me so much that there is no one on the team that take this big problem seriously.

"First impression is from your dress, last impression from your brains/wits."
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: July 15, 2018, 07:10:07 PM
Something interesting to read :
https://medium.com/@WhaleStar/tradove-coin-the-ultimate-scam-2462bc3095b5

Any proof about your 250k users? We see only fake profiles with 0 activity, whats up with that? I think every person that did research about your userbase got to the conclusion that everything in your whitepaper about 250k+ users and 100k+ companies was a BIG LIE.  Maybe you will blame the bear market again for that and say how everything lost 75%? Now we dont talk about your coin, we talk about your dead platform and 0 updates that has been made on it for the last atleast 6 months. The site is the main thing of the project and its mind blowing how there is 0 job done for making it look more attractive and user friendly..
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: July 08, 2018, 06:04:54 PM
I think TraDove is missing a more popular exchange. Now the price of the token is stable, but if the token is added to a large exchange, then the price will begin to rise.

Stop thinking about exchanges only holy shit... we cant just leech from the big exchange fame and hope this will increase the price forever.. because it will probably pump, but wont be sustainable.. people buy your token not because they like it, they buy it because the exchange is famous and in the long term it will dump to where it started with no development.. its like hey i want to be famous singer, i dont have a single song yet, i dont want to waste my time creating a good song, but lets try to become a friends with Adele so i can leech from her fanbase and start telling everyone how great i will become one day... same with the binance, you cant wait for binance to solve all your problems or make your platform good.. You need a PRODUCT first and then promote it, not the other way around... Exchange listing is great marketing, but we have nothing to promote yet, so if we list now on the biggest exchanges the token will pump for a little because of the exchanges fanbase, but after that people will see we dont have nothing developed and will sell, so lets not waste more money on listing now and wait for a product and then try to list on these exchanges when we will have bigger chance keeping the "fans" from the new exchange...
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: July 08, 2018, 01:33:40 PM
I dont know if you realize the team has done 0 development the past 6 months, the main site looks still 50 years old and its unusable, nothing blockchain related still, the only thing they did is putting voice mail to their app, lol thats a progress for 6 months... The only thing that is happening is going to bunch of stupid conferences wearing a silly tshirts saying tradove to the moon (that was awful idea, i dont know who suggested it, you want to attract companies worth billions and you wear a shirts with the most pathetic meme in the space, that makes you look like a joke not like the professionalist companies will spend money on) repeating the same bullshit how tradove will change the way people do business and doing bunch of contests throwing free coins at people thinking that will help with the price.. You talk about wanting to make partnerships on these conferences, but so far 0 partnerships are announced, i mean one was announced like 2-3 months ago, but after asking multiple times about more information or atleast the name of the partner i was ignored, so i count that as 0 partnerships.. And there is a reason no one want to be tradoves partner, you have nothing to show them, you have only words, that means nothing in this space, because big % of the projects here sound like the new microsoft, but they have nothing to support those words with, unfortunately its the same with tradove... Focus on the development part stop wasting your time and our money promoting something that doesnt exist, crypto world its starting to mature and this doesnt work anymore
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: June 13, 2018, 08:29:00 AM
Hey look its been 15 days since distribution was supposed to start, admins still have no idea whats going on with that.. This blockchain team did a mistake sending wrong amounts last time and now they are delaying this distribution with 15+ days.. This delay also delays our coinmarketcap update about market cap, rank, total supply, etc.. We are expecting from them to build the blockchain part of our platform, but they are struggling with a simple token distribution? What did you guys do the last month? What is this stupid excuse from this useless admin Benjamin "we need to finalize and double check our list". If 1 month is not enough for that we need more people to work on this project since there is always delays and we need Kent to give more power to someone, because this project looks like one man show, but there is only so much one person can do. And now you decide to just giveaway 10M+ of tokens to people that lost their tokens being dumb to keep them in the exchange?? Thats 400k$+ worth of tokens, are you kidding me? Look at the price dump after they announced the stolen tokens and look now another 20% after announcing the decision to put another 10M+ tokens in circulation?? Make coinrail buy them from the market and return them to the investors this way, not just give them away... what the fuck are you guys doing, we paid much more than current price and you are just giving them away now making the tokens even less valuable?? Kent you are running a business not some kind of charity organization.. is this what they teach you in MIT? This totals 800k$ to a token that market cap is ~13M$ with average daily volume 150K$, do you know how bad this can affect the price?? The hacking was bad enough, now you made it even worse, great job
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: June 09, 2018, 11:48:51 AM
Can you hire new admins for telegram group, because these ones suck and have close to 0 knowledge about crypto, 2 months ago they didnt even know what circulating supply is.. look at the telegram group its close to dead with 11k+ members, because they banned/restricted any member that asks real questions, because they have no idea how to answer them... the telegram now its full of "lets go to the moon" and bunch of spaceship stickers, pathetic
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: June 08, 2018, 08:25:04 AM
Giving away 50k$ worth of tokens to a retweet every month? Who came up with that stupid idea and the worst part is the team agreed on.. just give 50k to a big youtuber, it will give you much more exposure than giving 50k to a fucking tweet (which is still worthless, because we dont have anything to promote blockchain related, so its a waste of money to promote anything at all at this moment, but if you are that desperate youtube is a much better option).. there are almost all fake accounts with fake followers that participate in this kind of lottery and people are gonna make multiple accounts which is useless in term of promoting the token...
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: March 19, 2018, 07:40:09 AM


Seriously, Tradove's telegram group is run by plebs and total noobs posing as crypto experts.

I just got banned for asking a simple question, in the public channel.

Being an investor in their ICO, I now feel how stupid I have been and will probably be left with holding worthless bags of Tradove tokens

It seems like it is nothing more but a blatant money grab. The whole ICO is done wrong, there is not even a smart contract.
The ICO hard-cap was modified, because - as the CEO said, they would need the extra money to pay for taxes.
Then , the ICO end-date was extended and people were effectively buying tokens after the end-date.
Then, it became unclear when the token would be unlocked (there is not even a smart contract!) and as of today,
there is still no sight on an Exchange willing to list this token. This ICO ended weeks ago.
Probably, they thought it would be easy to get listed after grabbing 52M USD. Now, the telegram group admins are promising a listing in April.

That must be a fool's joke.

Be smart and sell it before it vanishes, rumor goes it will be "released" in 2 days.




First of all i want to say i dont like some of the admins in the telegram too, but your post is ridiculous.
Every ICO is a money grab, thats the purpose of the ICO's, companys collect money to realise the ideas they have. Not having a smart contract was a good thing, that allowed them to reach the hard cap, because this way they can accept fiat, which if they actually reached the hardcap (i have a theory they didnt, u can check my post from the last month, but i cant be sure about it, so i take it as they say) according to etherscan was most preferable way to deposit because of the crypto crash. First time i see about hard cap being modified and im following this ico since early January? The cap was always 52M. Now at first i didnt like the fact they extended the ico because serious companys have to stick to what they say, but when you think about it, it is good long term. If you are a long term investor you want them to have the money to achieve what they aim for, you dont want the company to run out of money and not being able to complete their roadmap. It is clear from the start that tokens will be unlocked after distribution, there was a discussion if we should lock them, but only that, never a tradove member said that the tokens will be locked. And about the exchanges... It was said from the start that we will receive the tokens before Q1 ends, that means we can get them on March 31, which also means the exchanges will be no earlier than April. Its not that hard to connect the points, you just have to think a little.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: February 28, 2018, 01:39:53 PM

I admire how developers accurately calculated their hardcap, which I see they are going to raise no more or no less

Watching their ether and btc wallets for the last month i dont think they raised another 20M after the preICO, unless there is like 15M+ fiat deposits, which of course there is no way for us to confirm that and all we can do is trust what they say, but for me 3:1 ratio is just too much even after the crypto crash and it seems very unlikely. In my opinion they are just trying to create a FOMO for the last a couple of days so they collect all they can.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: January 26, 2018, 04:49:11 PM
Kent

In the Youtube AMA, your closing statement was "SHOW ME THE MONEY" (very professional, btw)

Investors have shown you the money already, but when will you show investors the Slovenia blockchain team you promised? When will you show investors the professional marketing you promised, which includes a much needed revamp in branding, website, PR?

I have seen many ICOs with half the hardcap employ a bigger and more efficient team to handle the ICO process, it is clear your team has no crypto experience. Investors have waited over a week for payment confirmation and all team can say is "we are busy, wait". They don't even know the correct number of tokens sold  Huh Huh

I see all these poor investors tired of lame excuses and desperate for straight answers, yet all they get is another round of "bla bla bla" coupled with some oversized graphics produced with MS Paint, nothing significant has moved forward!
Confirmation of 24 hours becomes 48 hours, 48 hours becomes 8 days... Announcement of this week becomes next week, next week becomes next month...

First you say team is from Slovenia, now you say it's from Slovakia Huh You do realize that Slovenia and Slovakia are two different countries, right??

No adequate marketing, no blockchain team, no partnership deals, no honest communication.
No wonder this has not sold out even after over two months of presale... Ohhh, but whales are coming soon, right?!  Roll Eyes
I do not see where he mentioned Slovakia  Huh

Kent, the CEO, said that on Telegram on January 19th, and I quote "We have hired a Slovakia team in block chain and should be publish their info very soon"
Turns out to be Slovenian after all.

Guess what, still no signs of it being listed on KickICO, despite promised for January 20th.  Cheesy

And to make the deal even sweeter, they postponed the ICO's end date by 13 days. Guess there isn't enough demand eh?? What happened to all the "whales" that Kent talked about in AMA??  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Check out all the investors whining about it on their Telegram chat  Cheesy Phew, to think that I almost invested in this!

It is clear now that Kent isn't serious or reliable, he doesn't care about blockchain B2B or the investors, all he cares about is "SHOW ME THE MONEY!" and will break as many promises as he needs to achieve that.



Well said. I regret investing... A company that wants to resolve the trust problem in B2B doesnt keep promises, cant even stick to a single date.... So dissapointed.

"TraDove is pleased to announce that we have extended our ICO duration 13 addtional days. The new ICO dates will be from February 1st to February 28th. This will allow us to accommodate the overwhelming demand in the Asian markets and Global investors."

How does that make any sense?
Overwhelming demand means it should be sold out by now, if there was such great demand you would need less time.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: January 23, 2018, 05:14:51 AM
David Drake appointed as ICO Advisor

Another exciting addition to the Tradove team - David will bring a wealth of investment experience to the team making our ICO more agile and far reaching. Drake has worked on various ICOs in the past and has built a reputation as a skilled advisor - we look forward to his input.

https://medium.com/@tra_dove/press-release-tradove-announces-the-addition-of-david-drake-as-an-ico-advisor-c2b450878a18

Good fortune

-Kent

Cool, but what about keeping your promises? Real time progress bar on your site after reaching 10 mil - didnt happend, information about the blockchain team last week - didnt happend, listing on kickico on 20th of January - didnt happend.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: January 20, 2018, 12:59:38 PM
Hello Kent,

Do you have existing partnerships with any fortune 500 companies? How will you approach them and what specific type of partnership are you looking to create?

Thats a question from a couple co-investors on telegram.

Regards,

Holynare

19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: January 19, 2018, 12:50:41 AM
Can we finally get more information about the Slovenia blockchain team? Its been ~2 weeks since you mentioned it in the telegram group that you hired blockchain team, but still 0 information about that.

Kent, please, stop dodging this question.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin on: January 18, 2018, 12:14:59 AM
Can we finally get more information about the Slovenia blockchain team? Its been ~2 weeks since you mentioned it in the telegram group that you hired blockchain team, but still 0 information about that.
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