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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: September 08, 2020, 12:40:31 PM
Hey all, anyone still using these gpus? If so, what settings?
Also, if I have cheap electricity cost is it worth to go for 100 mH/s?

Thanks
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: January 14, 2020, 11:16:25 PM
Hey, anyone still using these GPUs, what's your results and settings?

Edit:
For those who still using these GPUs, I'm currently using the following settings:-
Miner : NiceHash
950 : mV
+0 : Power Limit
Core Clock : 1750
Memory Clock : 1100
Fan Speed : 100%

Result = 87 Mh/s to 90.3 Mh/s each GPU
Earnings = £1.04 to £1.09 each GPU


On NiceHash Profitability shows 100 Mh/s for £1.10

Your best to use the above settings to achieve the best result also spend less on electricity.

I hope this helps.

3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: June 23, 2019, 03:00:29 PM
Hey all, as BTC price has been increasing, daily earning with Vii have been slightly increasing also.
Do you think it's still worth to push these cards to the highest limit possible; DaggerHashimoto @ 91 MH/s . Earnings go to around £1.90-£2 each GPU.
But the temp also increases to around 95-100 degrees.
I know it would be very bad in the long term and the lifespan won't be much long.


4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: June 04, 2019, 01:21:22 PM
Hey, thanks for replies guys appreciate it very much.
Now I have an idea what psu to purchase for 4 or 6 rig setup.
It's a shame because I still have 1x 8pin connector & 2x 6pin connector "FREE" on PSU. If only these could be used to fire up another GPU, that would have been awesome!

Next part. Fans. I'm currently using : PRIZM 120MM ADDRESSABLE RGB CASE FANS - FIVE PACK for my 4x Radeon Vii rig, they are working great, no issues, I think it has auto feature where it increases RPM depending how hot the rig is running.

Do you guy's think this is a good brand? My mining rig can handle 5x 120mm fans.

What do you think?
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: June 03, 2019, 08:02:25 PM
Hey, I was searching around for PSUs that might be able to handle 5 or 6 GPUs.

I'm currently using Corsair HXi Series™ HX1000i for my 6x Asus GTX 1070 8GB OC rig, I realised the cables used to power up the gpus have 2x 8-pin connector but ofcourse the 1070 use only 1x 8-pin connector.
With all these 1070 gpus I've connected the power which leaves 1x 8-pin empty.

Do you guy's think I can use the same PSU;  Corsair HXi Series™ HX1000i or AX1600i to setup 5 radeon vii?

Just that after looking at my 1070 rig, there are plenty 2x 8-pin connectors to be used for 5x radeon vii setup... or am I missing something?
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: May 30, 2019, 07:28:47 PM
You cant connect 6 GPU's on 1 PSU. There is no PSU on the market with 12 PCIe connectors.

EVGA has 9 connectors. You can run 4 GPU's and if you use a cable-mod (CPU to PCIe) you can run 5 GPU's.
(SuperFlower is the same as EVGA. If you dont need the 2000W, better go with EVGA!)

Seasonic Prime Gold 1300W ATX 2.4 (SSR-1300GD) has 10 connectors. With good undervolt you can run 5 Radeons. But with every energy-spike, every GPU-reset, everything which dont stay optimized will shut down that PSU.
(Corsair and CoolerMaster also have PSU's with 10 connectors. But in terms of quality and warranty they both stays way behind EVGA. Even Seasonic is not the best pick.)

So better split your load to 2 PSU's with a bit of room. If you need for example 900W for 3 GPU's, buy a 1200W or 1300W PSU. The 1300W Gold EVGA PSU's are mostly cheaper than the 1200W xxx PSU's, so the 1300W is the better choice. No need for Platinum and co, if they are only for mining.

Life saver tip: NEVER EVER use cheap 6-pin to 8-pin PCIe adapters to connect just 1 double cable from your PSU to your GPU!!! They will get very hot and if you are unlucky, you can burn down your home!
Another tip: Don't use cheap chinese server/mining PSU's. Protect your investment with quality!

Hey, yeah I had feeling connecting 6 gpus would be an issue.
My plan was to have 1 psu that can powerup as many gpus possible, so 6 cannot be done, how about 5?
Yes you are correct, the adapters will work fine for short term, but it will definitely get hot, so I won't go down that route.

I just wanted to confirm with everyone, my best option is to connect 5 gpus on 1600watts psu?
Just that with EVGA 1600G2, I was able to connect 4 gpus without an issue, it appears adding 5th gpu will be an issue as there isn't enough connectors. Although, there are now 2 x 6-pin sata ports available as I got the fans changed.

Do you think I can use 2x 6-pin sata ports to fire up the 5th gpu?

Thanks
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: May 28, 2019, 08:12:02 PM
Hey, anyone knows the best PSU to purchase for connecting 6 GPUs?
Just that I don't want to be short of wires as VII uses 2x 8-pin cables.

Thanks
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: May 21, 2019, 07:23:32 PM
Junction temp is the max of all sensors.  The gpu will start throttling around 110c, so really that is the threshold AMD considers ‘safe’, not 90.  That being said, lower temp = longer lifespan.

I’m uncomfortable w/ 80c, but these guys run hot - without drastically reducing performance, or altering the cards cooling solution, it is what it is.

Thanks for the info mate. Oh wow! 110c is safe ouch! That will definitely burn out the cards very quickly.
I've literally spent the last few hours trying to make changes, trying to reduce the heat on these gpus. The best I can achieve is 88c. I can't get it lower without impacting the performance.
At the moment it's running very smoothly @ 82 Mh/s on all 4 gpus. I think that's efficient, 910 watts in total. 

What miner are you running? Also, are you using Windows OS or some other mining os such as minerstat?

Hey, Nicehash Legacy v1.9.0.22 , running on Windows 10 64bit.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: May 21, 2019, 12:22:34 PM
It's been almost 2 days since I had the gpus. Progress is being made, I started with the rig running at very high temperature, around 105 Celsius. After, hours of tweaking and testing I have managed to reduce the "Junction" temperature drastically.

If you're using Afterbuner for overclocking/underclocking remember with the Radeon VII there will be two temperature to monitor :

GPU1 Temperature
GPU1 Temperature 2 (Junction temp)
 
Always remember "Junction" temp is very important as this is the temp inside the gpu, this must not exceed more than 90ish Celsius if you want the units to have longevity.

Using the settings below, I've been able to reduce temp from 105 Celsius to 80-82 Celsius which I think is huge improvement.

70% fan, 1600 core, 865 mV, 1000 memory, Power Limit -20

The above settings should give your gpus ;
70 C GPU and 80 Junction and around 900 watts

Average Mh/s @ 82

Remember my watts are based on 4 GPUs

What do you guys think about running gpus around 80 Celsius, is that too high?
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: May 19, 2019, 11:55:42 PM
Yes, use 2 of them. Each cable connects one slot from PSU into one slot of your GPU. The remaining 6 pin on that cable just ignore. If you dont have enough cables, just buy some of these cable mods for EVGA PSU's.

If you need more help, just open another thread especially for that problem. Its not really related to hashrate & co  Wink

Sweet! I appreciate the support mate.

Finally, I have managed to get 2x Radeon VII working, and yes it's stable on Nicehash.

I'm using the following settings ;
Core 950 mV, Power limit -10%, Core Clock 1750 MHz, Mem 1100 MHz, Fan Speed auto.

DaggerHashimoto @ 0.179 GH/s ; 89 Mh/s & 89 Mh/s
GPU temperatures ; 103 degrees & 105 degress

The only worrying thing now is the temperature. I've read on this thread from post temp hits 89-91. But mine they are all 100+ , should I be worried or is that normal?
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: May 19, 2019, 11:04:08 PM
They dont fit, I'm nearly sure. But in case they will, you have to check the assignment of the pins. You can find that diagrams on their homepages or try to google them.

Nope, I dont have any of these Radeons, only tons of Vegas. Tested one and sent it back after testing.

I wanted to ask. When connecting the 3rd Radeon VII GPU, instead of adapters, if I was to use 2 of these : https://images.evga.com/products/gallery/100-CK-1300-B9_XL_4.jpg , that would still work rite?
1 for each port on GPU as 2x 8-pin power is required, the 6-pin will not be used...
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: May 19, 2019, 10:55:00 PM
Different brands, different connectors Wink But some brands are using the same manufacture, like EVGA and SuperFlower for example.

But there are good cable mods on the market. If you don't have enough original cables, just order a few of them. But remember, don't buy the cheap ones. Someday you will regret that decision. Always buy from brands and read carefully the comments on like Amazon. If you see there smoked or burned pictures, skip them!

If the corsair cables fits, would you say I'm good to use the cables?
Yeah mate, I always read comments before I purchase anything, but thanks for the heads up.

BTW, do you know any stable settings for Radeon VII to work with Nicehash?
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: May 19, 2019, 10:42:26 PM
I have those adapters and one did burn.  I just buy another psu, they are cheap.

Hey mate, I purchased the PSU brand new only to be used for Radeon VII Sad
You expect EVGA top range products such as G2 to have spare cables...

Can't I use corsair cables instead?
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: May 19, 2019, 10:32:50 PM
Never touch any adapter if you don't want to burn your house down!

1 slot in your PSU for 1 slot in your GPU, if you want to make it correct. So you can fire up 4 GPU's. A 5th card if you use the last 9th PCIe and a good (not cheap!) CPU/PCIe cable.

Many ppl will say "Hey, just use 1 cable for 1 GPU. Get any cheap chinese adapter and its fine."... Never do this! These cables were made cheaply and get very hot and if you are unlucky, it can burn.

Edit: Yes, just connect 1 of these double cables (6+2 and 6) into 1 slot in your GPU, forget the 6 Pin.

DON'T split the remaining 6 Pin with an adapter into 8 Pin and connect the second slot of that same GPU!

Hey mate, thanks for reply man.

"Edit: Yes, just connect 1 of these double cables (6+2 and 6) into 1 slot in your GPU, forget the 6 Pin."

The RADEON VII requires 2x 8-pin power. You're saying to connect only 1 of the 6+2 and 6 into 1 slot in the GPU, will the GPU still work, because 2x 8-pin power is required?

"DON'T split the remaining 6 Pin with an adapter into 8 Pin and connect the second slot of that same GPU!"

Ouch! I was going to do that tomorrow when the adapter arrived. Thanks man, I will give it a miss now.

I still have my Corsiar PSU, that has the exact cables that are required for RADEON VII to work, do you think its OK to use corsair cables?
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: May 19, 2019, 05:34:40 PM
Wouldn't four double PCIe cables mean you can connect four GPUs? Then use four of the remaining single ones for GPU 5 and 6?

Sorry, I'm getting confused with the cables, apologies.

I've managed to connect 2x Radeon VII with 4 x 8-pin pcie cable.

Now I have 5 of these : https://images.evga.com/products/gallery/100-CK-1300-B9_XL_4.jpg (I think its 6+2pin + 6pin connector)
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: May 19, 2019, 03:15:25 PM
That PSU as new has 5x single PCIe and 4 double PCIe cables.

Hey, yes the 4 double PCIe cables work fine and can power 2 GPUs.
Issue is with the 5x single PCie, do I need to purchase an adapter for those now?

Something like this : https://www.amazon.co.uk/Startech-Express-Power-Adapter-Cable/dp/B001TK3TJY or https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07GJ6GB2B/ref=pe_3187911_185740111_TE_item

Nicehash keeps on crashing. I've used MSI Afterburner settings as follows :
Core 950 mV, Power limit -10%, Core Clock 1500 MHz, Mem 900 MHz, Fan Speed auto.

Miner runs for less than 5 minutes and stops few seconds later restarts...

What can should I do?



Remember to consider your fans power draw when calculating headroom on the PSU.  I think 120mm fans run around .33a on avg - so maybe about 4w each?  If you’re really pushing the limits of the PSU, your best bet is probably an open air rig w/ good spacing, and an external cooling solution if possible.  Here’s my setup for example - the 8x64 rig is on the left.  The spacing alone is generally enough to keep these reasonably cool (40-45c) even at 70-80f/21-27c ambient.  The cabinet is more for noise suppression and dust control (this is my garage/workshop too!) but the airflow helps on those summer days when temps get up significantly higher.  Many people just point a box fan at their rigs. (btw, the fans on the one rig aren’t necessary, but I didn’t bother removing them as I had the power headroom):



Hey, yes thanks for the heads up.
Both of my rigs are open air.

1st frame : Veddha V3C 6 GPU Mining Rig Aluminum Alloy Stackable Case Open Air Frame Rack (6x Asus GTX 1070 OC 8GB) with 120mm fans x5
2nd frame : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-7-GPU-crypto-mining-rig-frame-aluminum-case-Crypto-Monster/222333360848?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 (Radeon VII) with 140mm fans x5

Niiice neat setup. Looks like it took you some time to plan everything out?
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: May 18, 2019, 11:33:45 PM
Hey, guy's I managed to install my 1st AMD Radeon VII today but there is issue.

I have EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 G2. The connectors on the GPU require 2 x 8-pin PCIe power connectors.
With the PSU, only 1 x ; 2 x 8-pin PCIe power connectors were provided.

How on earth do I connect the rest of GPUs? Do I need to buy adapters now?

Someone, please share some light
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: May 16, 2019, 09:04:22 PM
Nicehash is okay, if you don't mind pretty high mining fees (5% for payouts less than 0.1BTC to external wallets). The higher fees are partly offset by the fact that their miner always finds the most profitable coin to mine. They had a huge hack two years ago, and they lost lots of bitcoin, and many (including me) lost some of my mining profits. However they've been slowly paying back miners for the lost money. The fact that they've been around for a while, and that they try to pay miners back and do the right thing is why I still trust them. It's an okay way to acquire Bitcoin.

For lesser fees, I use Nanopool for Ethereum mining, and over the years I've had zero problems with them. You can then use an exchange with much lower fees to convert your mined Eth to Bitcoin. I like their clean interface, and you can see one of my miners (2x 1060, 2x R-VII) mining currently there: https://eth.nanopool.org/account/0xa63ffc523e284bfb4a09b46ed2336afe824c57eb

I wouldn't run 4x Radeon VII's in the bedroom unless you have earplugs, or are a very deep sleeper. Smiley Also, do you need to cool down your house with air conditioning units? Depending on the climate you live in, AC units can use heaps of electricity trying to cool down mining rigs, and that's why lots of miners choose to run them outside, in the garage or at the patio, for example. Unless you have free electricity, or live in a cold area where you want to warm up your house by mining, I wouldn't run them inside.


Today, I finally ordered 6 x AMD Radeon VII, I've been planning for quite some time now. Fingers crossed it should be delivered tomorrow or Saturday, also ordered 2 x Asus GTX 1070 OC 8GB.
So now my small rig contains:
6 x Asus GTX 1070 0C 8GB
6 X MSI AMD Radeon VII 16GB

I think having all 6 Radeon VII in 1 rig will be a pain, plus alot of undervolt would be required. I will install 4 GPUs first, check the performance and add 1 GPU at a time if possible.

Yeah, I heard about the Nicehash hack. I was affected not much but still, now their making good progress reimbursed more than 50% already. They're also working on Nicehash v3, I think.

My current rig has 5 x 120mm fans already installed which is running 4 x Asus GTX 1070 0C 8GB. It keeps the rig very cool and working great.
After installing the 2nd rig, if more fans are required I could always purchase : https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oypla-Electrical-Chrome-Standing-Hydroponic/dp/B0182K76UQ/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=gym+fan&qid=1558040716&s=gateway&sr=8-4 , now these suckers are powerful!
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: May 11, 2019, 08:59:39 PM
Depends on what GPU you are using, and what coin you intend to mine. As an example, a GTX 1060 can consume up to 120 W. A Radeon VII can consume up to 300 W. For Ethereum, if you tune it properly, you can usually cut 25%+ off the power usage, but you don't want to use that as a basis, you always want to leave an overhead so you can mine other coins as needed. Also, as a rule of thumb you don't want to use your PSU at more than 80% since it's not efficient that way. So a reasonable expectation is that a 1600W power supply will probably provide about 1200W power efficiently. That will be able to power 4x Radeon VII's (1200W/300W), or 10x GTX 1060's (1200W/120W).

If you have miners inside, noise can be a problem. If it's outside, it's usually not that noticeable.

Hey mate, thanks for your reply.

I've looking at : Sapphire AMD Radeon VII. I've had Sapphire products in the past and work like a charm, hardly encounter issues, plus its a respective brand in my opinion. I would have gone for Asus or Gigabyte but their price difference is around £60 when it would do the same.

When it comes to coin, I will be leaving it with Nicehash as I've used their service ever since I started mining. I know others had issues and will have negative feedback but it's been working without an issue for me. Or do you think with AMD Radeon VII, using Nicehash would be bad option?
 
Right, understand. I'm best to have only 4 x AMD Radeon VII. But as you mentioned I can tweak and reduce the wattage.

At the moment my mining rig is left indoors, in fact in my bedroom and I currently have 4x Asus GTX 1070 OC 8GB, connected to 5 fans that run at 100% . But I have plans to move the mining rig to a different location in the house. Do you think 4x AMD Radeon VII will create a lot of noise? 

Mining wattages and efficiency calculations for Ethereum can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w6qQtpwzlKRPSx3hYIpTrO1d29SwAIhOV4CNGi3Jk6Y/edit?usp=sharing

Let me know if it needs corrections. Thanks.

Noted!

Higher end PSUs tend to have a reasonably flat efficiency curve up to 95+% load.  Here's a measurement of the P2 for example:



And a curve for the T2:



Sure, you lose a couple percent from the peak around 33% load, but it's certainly not worth handicapping your capacity as a result.  I run my 1600 P2s close to full cap in certain situations w/ 8 vega 64s on them.

Also, as I mentioned elsewhere, VIIs can do well over 300w.  The TDP rating is stock - not really something miners (or most gamers spending $700 on a GPU) care about.  That being said, even 300w is most likely pretty inefficient for mining on almost any algorithm - 200-250w is probably the target area for decent efficiency on a VII.  I run ethash at 215w for 82MH/s. 

I would say you could easily plan 5 VIIs on a 1600w PSU - possibly even 6 if you're good about power management.  Mining hashrates, as well as power use, are not fixed quantities.  You can tune your performance of any algorithm however it suits you.  Just because everyone else runs ETH @ 90MHs for 260w, doesn't mean it's the only, or even best, option.

Finally, in addition to noise considerations (and they are loud, though not quite as bad as blowers,) you should think about heat management as well. 1600w is basically a space heater - one you'll be running 24/7, I assume.


Hey mate, thanks for your reply.

Nice work on the image it helps a lot.

Yes, I totally agree with you about "everyone else runs ETH @ 90MHs for 260w". It all about finding the sweet spot lols, makes changes, making the tweaks, monitor and then applying everything. I suppose it will take some time to find the best setting, but I was really hoping to fit 6 gpus onto my rig. 
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Who ordered the AMD Radeon VII? Lets make a list of Miners / Hashrates / Coins on: May 10, 2019, 09:18:07 PM
Hey, I'm interested in the GPU and have been planning to build a mining rig.
How many GPUs can be powered using EVGA 1600 watts PSU?
Also, I'm worried about the noise dB, as I've read on some forums it can get loud?
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