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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Atlas trying to sell r/Bitcoin sub reddit. on: July 20, 2011, 01:13:33 PM
Lol what an ass  Grin
He didn't had to do shit for it.
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Atlas trying to sell r/Bitcoin sub reddit. on: July 20, 2011, 12:56:59 PM
Ok guys, please clarify this for me:

How can this Atlas guy try to put a subreddit for sale. What is his part in it? Is he the owner of the subreddit?
Was he the original creator of the subreddit "Bitcoin" and now he tried to sell it now that it has gotten bigger?

I just want to get some clarification on this situation cause I don't really understand.
3  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GUI mining - updated host address for slush's pool on: June 27, 2011, 03:44:13 PM
My GUI Miner is behaving pretty strangly I must say.
Now and then, it stops mining and it says "Connecting..." and it will not do anything else, untill I push the "stop" button and "start" butting. After I push the start button it will succesfully connect again.

This is causing my miner to have lots of downtime, especially when this occurs at night.
Because I can easily and succesfully start it again manually, it must be an issue with the GUI Miner itself.

How can I solve this? One way would be to write a AutoHotkey script which keeps an eye on the status of each miner, and clicks the "stop", "start" button as soon as one worker is stuck in the "connecting..." fase, but that seems a pretty stupid solution for the problem.
Since this is an issue that must be resolved in the source code of the GUI Miner itself.
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Give MtGox a break on: June 21, 2011, 02:18:59 PM
They were the most popular, they were the biggest.
Of course that makes them the number one target as well.
And they did get attacked.

But why being so harsh towards them? Seriously, the hackers tried and will have kept trying to find a weak spot until they succeed.
This Sunday, they succeeded.

MtGox now just needs to handle the situation in a calm matter, which they are actually doing quite good:
The made some very good calls
1) They froze the websites and took the servers off line ASAP
2) They worked together with google to warn all the Gmail users ASAP

They are now handling the situation in an offline environment it seems, where they have everything under control.

What else do you expect them to do? Do you expect them to just go online just 5 hours after an attack, to make you all happy in the short term, but compromise everyone and everything in the process?!?

Give them a break, they are doing a good job at handling the situation and I respect them for it. Be patient, please.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm Kevin, here's my side. on: June 21, 2011, 02:05:27 PM
About my 51 million bitcoins post, i found what went wrong  Tongue
My excel transformed European Format numbers into American ones and changed numbers like 21.652,252 into  21 million....  Roll Eyes
Sorry guys, but hey, it's not easy sometimes. Why can't we all just use the same formats throughout the entire world?
6  Other / Archival / Re: MtGox: What happened / Why a rollback is the only right call here... on: June 21, 2011, 01:30:11 PM
I've just done a re-check and I still get a total of 51 044 103 bitcoins when I do the calculation.
I'm not sure how you guys end up with these other numbers. What am I missing?
Good question.  I've tried a few things and can't come up with a way to calculate 51 million.  The actual calculation is simple - just sum the "Amount" column. 211531.18

I'm doing the same. But it looks like excel is seeing the "." as ","
In this case, something like 21652.252  shows up as 21 million in here  Undecided i just noticed. Damn american formats and conversions   Roll Eyes
7  Other / Archival / Re: MtGox: What happened / Why a rollback is the only right call here... on: June 21, 2011, 01:24:32 PM
I've just done a re-check and I still get a total of 51 044 103 bitcoins when I do the calculation.
I'm not sure how you guys end up with these other numbers. What am I missing?
8  Other / Archival / - topic closed by myself on: June 21, 2011, 01:11:11 PM
NOTE: Ignore this topic for the time being, sorry
So here is an explanation of:
1) What has happened on Sunday
2) Why a rollback is the only right call

I've decided to put this in a seperate topic so that this information can reach a slightly larger audience.

Here is what happened on Sunday 19th of June
All of the following buy orders got executed on Sunday 19th of June, causing the price to crash from $ 17.51 to 0.01 $ in a minute
http://pastebin.com/J0HXBjWu

Now, it's simple.
Count the amount of coins that people wanted to buy in the range from $ 0.01 up to $ 17.51
The only way that the market price can go down to $ 0.01 is that all these buy orders had to be cleared.
In order to clear all these buy orders, a total of 51 million bitcoins had to be sold by someone.
This is what happened on Sunday.
Someone sold almost 51 million bitcoins at MtGox, causing the execution of all these buy orders, all the way down to $0.01

But today only 6,6 million bitcoins truly exist. Nobody has 51 million bitcoins, and nobody will ever have 51 million BTC as you all must know...


That explains the question:
Was it a real trade? Where the trades real? Answer: no

What was it then?
Answer: A software exploit. This could have happened on many different levels. It could've been a SQL Database attack, it could've been an exploit in the website code itself, etc....

Banks
This happens in real banks as well, when a programmer has made an error in the code of transactions. A programmer could've written a bug in the software the causes money to get credited from account A, but not debited on account B.
If such a bug occurs in banks, they will always perform a rollback. A rollback will undo all the incorrect transactions up untill before the bug.
If they wouldn't do that, then money is being created out of nothing, or money is being deleted into nothing. In such a case, a rollback is always necessary.

This is why MtGox needs to do a rollback. This is why MtGox's single correct answer on the situation is a rollback.


"I did a great deal at $0.015 !! It's my right to keep them !!"
For all those who think they have done awesome deals between $ 0.01 and $10.00 and are now being ripped off by MtGox because of the rollback. Sorry folks, but you bought something that didn't exist. Nobody was truly selling bitcoins at $ 0.01
So you didn't buy bitcoins at $ 0.01

MtGox doesn't rip you off.

I hope this post helps.
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm Kevin, here's my side. on: June 21, 2011, 12:44:12 PM

A total of 51 million bitcoins got sold by 1 sell order this Sunday.

source?

http://pastebin.com/J0HXBjWu

That's from sunday, the price reached 0.01
In order to reach the price of 0.01, all these orders had to be cleared.
If you paste it in excel and do a count of the amount of bitcoins that people wanted to buy @ 0.01 or higher, then you can see that there needed to be sold a total of 51 million bitcoins in order to clear the whole bid-side of 0.01 or greater, which happened, but was impossible...

Obvious forge is obvious.
10  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm Kevin, here's my side. on: June 21, 2011, 12:27:26 PM
Man, I already explained this yesterday....
THE TRANSACTIONS WERENT REAL

The coins that got sold DIDN'T EXIST

The buy you did was a forge

So, stop whining, and accept the rollback.  Roll Eyes

This was a CODE-attack, not a real trade.

Sorry for the font sizes and bolds and stuff, but hey, nobody is listening.


For those interested in numbers:
A total of 51 million bitcoins got sold by 1 sell order this Sunday. If you know there are only 6,6 million coins in existment, you can do the math and see it was a fake sell order.
11  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: TradeHill - Who we are on: June 21, 2011, 03:20:22 AM
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12  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Poll: Rollback, No Rollback? on: June 21, 2011, 03:02:09 AM
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13  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Poll: Rollback, No Rollback? on: June 21, 2011, 02:55:16 AM
Before you:
A) Create such a polls or
B) Vote on such a polls,

you really have to know what exactly is going on.

What happened is, that the database got compromised, and possibly, fake transactions have been made with bitcoins that didn't exist, on the MtGox website.
On that website, the coins are just numbers of variables. I counted that, in order to make this crash happen, a total of 51 million bitcoins had to be sold.
Since there are only 6,5 million bitcoins available, you know that something else must have happened, in this case: the coins that got sold just didn't exist.

Asking to NOT rollback the transactions, doesn't make any sense at all. The transactions all HAVE TO be rollbacked simply because they were forged, they were fake, they had nothing to do with real bitcoins, they didn't have any value to begin with.

So this poll is just silly, seriously.
14  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: June 21, 2011, 02:49:09 AM
I'm a human from planet earth, in case anyone in the universe would receive this by satelitte accidentily.
15  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie restrictions on: June 21, 2011, 02:44:45 AM
I'm posting a message in this topic, while i actually haven't got anything interesting to say.
I do have some interesting things to say in other topics, but i can't post cause i'm a newby apparently, atlhough i already follow bitcoin for quite a time now.
But hey, i need to get my post count up, because otherwise I will never be able to post in the non-newbie section  Sad,
and the biggest problem is that I have to do it while I havent got anything interesting to say in the newby section.
Well, this count for 1 post, I hope I don't have to make too many of these kind of posts cause very soon I'm going to run out of ideas for posts in the newbie section  Smiley
16  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin = A hook to Satanism? on: June 05, 2011, 07:53:24 PM
Is Bitcoin "A hook to Satanism" ?

This may sound far-fetched but the inventor of Bitcoin is named "Satoshi Nakamoto"
But I just found out that if you re-arrange the letters of his name you get "A hook to SatanismHuh
17  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Pizza for bitcoins? on: June 03, 2011, 11:17:19 AM
125 000 $ pizza, i hope it tasted good  Wink

On second notice, this apparently were the pictures of the pizza: http://heliacal.net/~solar/bitcoin/pizza/
And it's looking damn tasty
18  Other / Obsolete (selling) / Re: Selling Pokerstars $$ for Bitcoins on: May 31, 2011, 05:20:49 PM
bump
19  Other / Obsolete (selling) / Selling Pokerstars $$ for Bitcoins on: May 30, 2011, 05:35:37 PM
I'm a poker player active on Pokerstars and I want to start playing Poker at https://betco.in/
Therefore I need my first bitcoins and I'm willing to trade anything up to 200 $  ( I will send through Pokerstars )

Please send me a PM if you are interested, thank you.
Providing ways for communication ( your address of Skype, MSN, Yahoo Messenger ) would be handy.

Since this is my first post on this forum,
I will send the money first to show that you can trust me.
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