Since ALS is a negative diagnosis disease we really don't know how many diseases or sub types there are all being called "ALS".

Some people live 6 months or less, others live 8+ years.

If you get on a vent and feeding tube you can significantly extend your life.

ALS can impact brain function in strange ways.  It can cause memory loss.  It can cause a heightened startle reflex.  It can cause you to laugh or cry at inappropriate times.  It doesn't have to do any of these things.  It doesn't lower IQ, although people with a high IQ might have a slightly better chance at getting it.  Of course after around 24 everyone's fluid IQ goes down, so Stephen's probably did too.

I sold them all in one whack as is for $3800 I mean 4068 I mean 3900 I mean whatever…. 575 bitcoin. :-)

I can do the x-ray.    I don’t have access to a microfocus tube at the moment, but I can just back one of the big ones up a lot. Working or not, on the board or not...let’s go!

Can you explain more about the difference?  The publicity is what got me thinking.  There was a huge bump in interest in bitcoin last winter in Korea, probably over the stability of their currency due to the DPRK...  You can buy bitcoins on in the subway terminals too!  In little plastic boxes!  

Are you speculating that the boost feature might only take up more space that could otherwise be used by more cores?  What is the point if it doesn't make anything faster?  As they proudly state on the front page of the web site, the designs are not based on simulations.  Maybe they never tried it without?  

My experience was only related to the support and quality that they provide a-Si customers.  Koreans do everything at an extreme level and have a huge competitive spirit.  The USA invented auto-tune, Koreans took it to level 11.  I thought when Samsung got into SHA256 everyone else would be in trouble!  : )

I seriously was worried about my investment in Canaan 841s when I heard the news.  I didn't remember about BW.  It seemed like they were hyping this all of a sudden, so I assumed they felt something special.

Assuming it is true that the Innosilicon T1 uses Samsung chips I am truly confused with my continued support of Canaan.  

I was a little concerned when I heard Samsung was making SHA256 ASICS.  Hanguk mansae!

189 10nm chips per unit...  vs 104 16nm chips in the 841.

I expected more of an efficiency increase, especially from Korea...!  I hope it wasn't Samsung's fault.   

There are plenty of ways to find out.

First dead hashboard that someone has, lets decap one of the ASICs.  There could be a name in there.  They have to be proud of their work somewhere...

The PCB is good enough for me.  If it was stolen or whatever they would likely have made a stink about it already...

Another good place to look would be when/where/who compiled the kernels between the products, similarities in config files, file system arrangement, etc.

Like I said, zero effort to make the boards look different.  They can't really care that much if people figure it out...

I can't remember who it was, but I've seen "Stolen from xxxx" on the perimeter.    Just for anyone who looked!

In reference to the Innosilicon T1 16TH/s SHA256 miner...

Sorry guys...not trying to offend anyone here...but a prius doesn't look like a dump truck because they both have rubber in their tires.  The PCB does not "look" like an Innosilicon board, they are boards from the same design.  There is not one doubt in my mind!  I tried to find a picture of a prius dump truck, but I guess that hasn't been invented yet. 

These are the only possibilities:

-Inno doesn't make their own PCBs, they farmed it out to a contractor.  Halong used the same contractor and that contractor made extremely insignificant changes to the PCB down to the fab!!! markings.  If this is the case, Innosilicon is incompetent with their contract writing or got ripped off.  ...And halong asked for their name to not be written on the PCB? 

-Inno is Halong

-Halong is Inno

-Theft on an IP source level, which unlikely since why not lift a finger to hide the theft?  In a day or two I could make the boards look pretty different!  People say that they don't care if they are in possession of stolen designs, but we should care!

Some of the people here who seem the most "annoying" are on point and have made great points which should be answered.

Will the real Innosilicon please stand up, please stand up! 

My guess here is that industry people know what is going on and are asking leading questions on purpose.  A good take down involves an accusation, denial, tiny bit more proof, another denial, and then the smack down which forever removes all creditability.  The drama with Innosilicon is far from over.  The first line in this post wasn't a joke, btw...

I finally inventoried all of the cards

XFX AMD Radeon RX 480 - 8GB GPU
XFX AMD Radeon RX 480 - 8GB GPU
XFX - Hard Swap Edition AMD Radeon RX 480 RS 8 GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics
XFX RX 480 8GB GTR BLACK EDITION
ASUS RADEON RX 480 ROG STRIX OC 8GB
ASUS RADEON RX 480 ROG STRIX OC 8GB
ASUS ROG STRIX Radeon RX 480 8GB OC ( STRIX-RX480-O8G-GAMING )
XFX Radeon RX 480 8GB Black Edition
SAPPHIRE AMD Radeon RX480 4GB (Flashed to 8GB!) 100406-4GL 256-Bit GDDR5 GPU
SAPPHIRE AMD Radeon RX480 4GB (Flashed to 8GB!) 100406-4GL 256-Bit GDDR5 GPU
SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Radeon RX 480 8GB 1306MHz AMD Video Graphics Card Only
GIGABYTE Radeon RX 480 DirectX 12 GV-RX480G1 GAMING-8GD 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5
XFX AMD Radeon™ RX 480 GTR 8GB with Hard Swap Black Edition
PowerColor RED DEVIL Radeon RX 480 DX12 AXRX 480 8GBD5-3DHV2/OC 256-Bit HDMI VR
PowerColor RED DEVIL Radeon RX 480 DX12 AXRX 480 8GBD5-3DHV2/OC 256-Bit HDMI VR
PowerColor RED DEVIL Radeon RX 480 DX12 AXRX 480 8GBD5-3DHV2/OC 256-Bit HDMI VR
PowerColor RED DEVIL Radeon RX 480 DX12 AXRX 480 8GBD5-3DH/OC 256-Bit 1330MHz VR
PowerColor RED DEVIL Radeon RX 480 DX12 AXRX 480 8GBD5-3DH/OC 256-Bit 1330MHz VR
XFX RADEON RX 480 GTR 8GB GDDR5 OC 1338MHZ BLACK LED HARD SWAP BACKPLATE DP HDMI

I'd like $5200 shipped and insured with Priority 3 Day anywhere in the US for all 19 cards.

Do I have the first bad 841?  I’m thinking the fan or control board is bad. The fan sounds like a child with severe ADHD is cranking the fan speed up and down constantly.  The temperature on the outlet was reaching 94C and I read that these miners have a target of 70C, unlike the 741...so I unplugged it.  It was doing a normal 13.5+TH/s.  The fan speed was set to 100% and the readout in CGminer would vary between 3000 and 5000RPM, although it only seems to update every 5 seconds so it depended where the adhd kid had the speed set when the info refreshed.

Sound familiar to any other 821 or 741 issues?

No more left!

Sold 6 at $1350ea free shipping.

Sold 1 at $1600ea free shipping:
Raspberry Pi, Power Supply, AUC3 - $100
Bitmain APW3++ - $150
Avalon 821 - $1350

Good luck to people trying to squeeze any more than that out of them!  We were very lucky to buy into those batches...remember that! 

6 sold 1 left!

I can sell a Raspberry Pi 3, power supply, and AUC3 for an additional $100.  I'm also open to offers for multiple units.

I have one new in box 821 as well.

I assumed an average of 1550w based on 1480+/-8% and experience with S9s.  1400w could be reached with a few percent, but I'm also guessing that the yield won't be nearly as consistent as what you could expect from Canaan.

I'd be interested in knowing if the connectors on the power supplies and receptacles on the dragonmint are plated with anything.  I've been using a thermal camera images of my Canaan and Bitmain miners for preventative measures.

PCB designer here...

When I look at the side by side boards I see something that was shared.  No one would spend so much time to accidentally make a board look that similar.  It would take much more effort than just designing from scratch.

When we see similar boards we count the things that are the same in terms such as "a few", not the ones that are different.    If they were designed independently someone would have had to go to a lot of trouble to make them so similar.

I've had PCBs copied and reproduced.  This doesn't look like that.  This looks like someone had access to inno designs and made slight modifications, and routed the modifications.  This is far different than the car examples, or both boards are green memes that people have been posting on twitter.  The examples of both intel based motherboards having the same chip-sets just don't apply.

The level that boards are identical is just embarrassing.

For a couple grand they could have reverse engineered the PCB, turned it into a schematic, made their own layout, and at least made it look like they were trying not to copy someone.  There are lots of contractors who perform this service in China.  Of course the US has them too, but they are more expensive and typically prefer to do it on designs a company owns but lost to obsolesce. 

Occam's razor guys...

I can sell them with the 1800W Canaan PSU as an option.

Here are some pictures

https://anchorage.craigslist.org/sop/6547007423.html

I'm looking to sell some of my Avalon 821s.  I'm looking to get $1450 each or $1600 with an APW3++ plus shipping.  I have 7 total.

I'm interested in selling a few Antminer S9s in order to buy quieter Avalon 841s.  I bought a total of 6 in the last month form Bitcointalk forum members.  I bought them thinking Canaan wouldn't come back down to earth...

I'd like to get what I paid for the first 4.  They were bought from a forum member new-in-box, and I have been running them for about 6 days.  They have all been running to spec.  I'd like to get what I paid out of them, about $1450 a piece.  I have new in box never opened APW3++ power supplies too.

Payment was received last night, but Paypal says it is "Under Review".