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Dennis get a life man.
You are playing the role of Cassandra predicting btcz catastrophy all day .
It is a screaming situation : you are just a hater and you serve a shadowy agenda , trying to panic the Community of the first really pure coin out there.
You never gave any serious answer to anything
I explained why btcz needs more time but it was something you "didn't see".
Your lies for the falling prices of btcz from the all time highs have been revealed by my mentioning about many other well known coins with almost same fallings.
Your new... argument that btcz never had a "serious all time high" like monacoin or dgb is again rudiculous because btcz is 7 months out there without premine while mona and dgb are 4 years and dgb had premine for funding dgb foundation.
Exactly this fact makes btcz an excellent buy.
Its pump will come in time and everyone who is buying now will likely be in an excellent position after some months or years.
Stop spreading lies and get the hell out of here if you don't like btcz.
Everyone has understood your dirty role in this forum
Vandar, your blind BTCz Fanboy. First, i am not an hater, i am an realist and not an blind follow Fanboy like you. That the price of BTCz just know one Way and this is the Way down is an Lie? Muhahah good one! I do not spread any Lies just the reality that you bling Fanboy not see. I not need reply to Anything, if your are involved in this project then you can maybe reply to the Question who are the 10 BTC from the Investor? You cannot? |
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Please guys stop this negative non stop messaging about btcz price.
If you don't believe to btcz you are free to follow other coins .
Btcz is a crypto without easy bags of money from icos/premines/instamines etc.
Everything is achieved only with hard work and some donations. So it is absolutely logical to have much slower expansion and to be more sensitive versus some unlucky events for crypto.
Those who believe in btcz will hold it and they will be rewarded in time when the vision will become reality
The very few guys who are trying to flood our forum here with negative msgs which don't make any sense, get a life or a new crypto to spend your time for!
Because when you write something again and again and again, you don't just say your opinion and leave.... you are a hater and you are trying to complete a mission or something.
By the way the most arguments of those guys are really rudiculous :
1) the btcz redesign proposal was taken back by the proposer and its special "requirements" were against
the btcz white paper, so it is absolutely FAIR that the proposal hasn't been approved.
Btw we had many redesigned promos holding our original logo, in the very last week which are becoming viral.
2) Even the price arguments (that btcz is the only crypto which has been 80% lower than its All Time HIGH), are completely mistaken.
There are hundreds of coins with such differences.
And many well known.
Monacoin had an ATH at 20$ and now is 3.2$
ZCL was at 250$ and now 11 . It had reached even 2,5$.
Btcp a very same picture as well
Dgb had a price of 0.13 and had fallen even to 0.02 (now at 0.035)
Even the BTC was recently at 6000 from the 20k which is almost 70% down.
And we are speaking for colossal cryptos some of which are well known for more than 4 years with huge communities.
So please STOP SPREADING LIES.
AND IF YOU THINK THAT BTCZ IS TERRIBLE, JUST LEAVE !
Another Bulk of Trash.. Biggest Trash is this White Paper and this stupid Talk about Community and Dezentralisation! 1. The Proposal was 54 to 46 PRO Redesign so who have the right to Say not if that "strong Community LOL" have say Yes? Community Bullshit Blabla! Community say yes and any Honk say no so now the Vote is No? Strong Community Hahahaha... 2. It is not just the only that is going to Zero, it is also the Only that never have hat any Value. Do not mix up the Things, if you have just an bit Plan from the Scene then you know exactly why ZCL have become this high this was just because the Fork. BTCP is on the Way to an good Coin and Price go Up. Monacoin have an High at the Crypto Hype Month 12/17 and yes lot of other Coins going down after 12/17 BUT BTCZ never was at any High! Only trash Talk is coming from this Community. Where are the Devs? What is the Plan? Where are the 10 BTC from Investor for Exchange, no one can tell this not here and not in the BTCZ Forum? In wich Pocket they have land? Why this Kids Community make proposals when they will ignore then? Anyway ... Rrrrrrrring : $0,001986 USD (-11,01%) ---> Next Stop --> ZERO |
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They can, with the example of Komodo you see everything what i say is an fact, there is an Community BUT there is also an Head! And there is an Team with an Plan, at BTCZ is no Team and an lot of Kids with Zero Plan  This is the only coin I know that sits on a 10 BTC donation and they can't get it on an exchange that matters And the prices keeps dropping Well, maybe this 10 BTC are are in some Persons Pockets and they are now the only Guys that make Profit with BTCz  . No one of the unavailable Devs reply to alle the Questions about the 10 BTC, about any Plan for Exhanges. Decentralization!!!!! Closed Community!!!! ... sorry great Community i meant... |
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They can, with the example of Komodo you see everything what i say is an fact, there is an Community BUT there is also an Head! And there is an Team with an Plan, at BTCZ is no Team and an lot of Kids with Zero Plan |
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This is our Way. The Idea of the Coin was but to many Kids that talk about decentralized Bullshit.
I wonder if deposits and withdrawals also get can stuck on a decentralized exchange. Or it happens due to human error. Apples and Pears! Again do not Compare Komodo with BTCz this is the same as you Compare Hyundai with Porsche. https://komodoplatform.com/our-team/ what is the Team behind BTCZ? Bulk of Kids thats all. |
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LOL, you would Compare Komodo with this Kindergarden Community and Team? HODL to see how long it takes to ZERO or why you tell him this?
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Sadly You are right - but community is a strong thing. Maybe one day it will wake up.
It is but every Project if now Community driven or not needs an Head. All serious Exchanges will ask you to Sign an Contract before adding an Coin, who will Sign this in this Community Blabla .. decentralized Blabla Project? The Community? Every Kid that get some Coins with his GPU? And also this Community is not strong, an lot of Kids, an lot of Dreamer and no one that really know what is to do. They need an Head Team and this have nothing to do with decentralized Bullshit that they tell, you cant have everything decentralized that just do not Work. What you see in the Marketcap and in the Price is the Result of the Point that every Expert in this brilliant Community do whatever he Like and no one say : This is our Way. The Idea of the Coin was but to many Kids that talk about decentralized Bullshit. |
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Can we focus on our coin:)
No news for longer time... devs wake up.
What Devs? This Community is just here for talk trash, just look in the Forum of the Coin there you see what great Community is there. There are 2 Guys with good ideas (give the marketing to an Group of Guys that know what the do and this as only source of Marketing) but then there comes some Kids and write there Shit about "this is not Decentralized enough, this not match us stupid White Paper" Blabla and now the only Guy with good ideas is gone. They discuss about re-design, they take care to make an Coin that no one will Mine, because it run to 0.001.. Asic resistant. This stupid Blabla about Decentralized and great Community kill this Coin, it will go faster to complete worthless then anyone of the Kids thing. In short: No Head Team but every successful Project if Crypto or anything else need an Head Team that give the Way. This Coin will never listed on any serious Exchange because there is no Head of this Project and every serious Exchange will see after this first Talk this is an Group of Kids and say: No Thanks! What you find here or even in there Forum ist an lot of stupid Blabla about this is Community Coin but no one talk Open, in this thread Bulk of People asked what is with the 10 BTC for Exchanges, where are this 10 BTC? In anyones Pocket? You plan any serious Exchange? If Yes, wich? And who is the Guy that talk with Exchanges? No one right? I am 10 Years in Online Marketing now and i can tell you, this stupid Way without and head of the Project and all this stupid Community and Decentralized blabla Trash have kill this Coin. An Decentralized Crypto, even if it is an Community Coin need an Head if there is no you get exactly what you see here an lot of Bull***.... |
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It's a good direction? What is good there? Make an Coin Asic resistant that no one will mine because the price worthless to Zero? Work on Shopify Sh** for an Coin that you can just buy on non serious Shit Exchanges? No one will buy BTCz on an Shit exchange for Buy anything because there are 100 lighter Ways for Online Payments. An Logo for BTCz News is important? An useless Marketpace? What exactly is the good direction here? It is complete useless and haphazardly what they do! And not any Word about an serious Exchange or what they do with the 10 BTC. If you lookin' for one season queen, go away. We are community coin. This is hard list coin like that, to top exchanges. We don't have premine, don't sold ICO, don't fork and use bip9, no tax everywhere! BitcoinZ it's ZERO transfer fee also. We say no to pump and dump. Yes, we want go to big exchanges, this is natural. But everything goes for money that we do not have. It is sad that the exchanges do not appreciate the BitcoinZ initiative (fair start community coin!), just money-hungry on the same terms as if we're some funny ICO. I think big exchanges need more POW coins. I mean pure POW coin, with no ico, no premine, no tax and no bip9/fork. Guys you must understand that BitcoinZ offers what is the most beautiful in the crypto world: we give a pure coins to everyone. Another thing is the roade map. I ask you, what you need? Mobile wallet? We have two! Paper wallet? Yes, we have it! Online? Yep, all done! Integration with e-commerce/wordpress/woocommerce system? Yes, we have very good plugin! Easy starts using BitcoinZ as a payment by local merchant? Yes! Sent BitcoinZ using txt/sms? Yes! Lots of task done now. What you need? You wanna we change in ICO and seals our mining machines? This is sad! Only natural grow in BitcoinZ. Stop talking about exchanges. You must understand one thing, exchanges will fall someday, but BitcoinZ will stay forever. You just write Trash. Do you know anything from doing Marketing or Business? For sure not! Integration with e-commerce/wordpress/woocommerce system? --> Bull**** Easy starts using BitcoinZ as a payment by local merchant? --> Bull**** Paper wallet? --> Useless Sent BitcoinZ using txt/sms? --> Useless What you need? --> Serious Exchanges! Without this the rest is --> Bull**** WTF you want with : e-commerce/wordpress/woocommerce system, local merchant and all that Bull**** when there is not one Single exchange where you can Buy this Coin that is serious??? No one will Buy BTCz at this Shit Exchanges for buy anything with it! Lot of Kids here, really. If you are no BTCz Fanboy, if you are an normal Human and you like Buy anything if Online or even Local you for sure not Buy this Sh** Coin on any Exchange where you need : Make $ to ETH, BTC or whatever (and pay Fee!!) for buying BTCZ on any of that Trash exchanges! Just an complete Idiot will do this. And this Bull**** : Only natural grow in BitcoinZ. --> Is the only Trash that the BTCZ Fanboys here can write. Ahhh wait : to the Moooon is another thing. This Shit Coin is Worth now : 0,002632 and it was in 01/18 0,02xx, there you have your natural grow! Is going to be complete worthless --> natural worthless. And stop write that trash is an new Coin, no it is absolut not New is from 10/2017 = 7 Montha qithout any "natural grow"! But there are Bulk of Coins that are New or 3-4 Months old (Comunnity Coins too!!) that have 2xxx better value. |
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It's a good direction? What is good there? Make an Coin Asic resistant that no one will mine because the price worthless to Zero? Work on Shopify Sh** for an Coin that you can just buy on non serious Shit Exchanges? No one will buy BTCz on an Shit exchange for Buy anything because there are 100 lighter Ways for Online Payments. An Logo for BTCz News is important? An useless Marketpace? What exactly is the good direction here? It is complete useless and haphazardly what they do! And not any Word about an serious Exchange or what they do with the 10 BTC. |
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No the Miners are not the fault the faults are :
Max Supply 21.000.000.000 BTCZ at least 3 digits to high. Complete wrong Way from start with this Number and if that will not corrected asap it will never increase for sure.
The Coin is just on Shit Exchanges and as you see the "Community" just try put it on more Shit Exchanges.
What about the 10 BTC from the Investor? Weeks gone and the Coin is still on NO good Exchanges and no Worth what is the Plan. Transparency works not on this Way!
No White Paper, no Plans for the Coin, just an Community Paper with is more or less useless.
No other Coin is so worthless like this because the massive max Supply, the highest Price ever in December 2018 at the massive Crypto Hype was 0,02xx LOL! And this is because the Max Supply and the fail with Exchanges.
Pro
Just the Big Community is an little pro but there also is an Con in this because the most Guys here hyped the Coin without any reason, most are complete not realistic and hyped the Coin even now where it falls to absolut worthless. BTCZ is on free fall since Weeks and here you just read best Equihash Coin blablabla. No, it is not the best Equihash Coin! It is current the best Equihash Coin from the bottom of the Table, this is more true!
Solutions:
1. Correct the Max Supply and decrease it massive.
2. Use the Money from Investor now and place it on an good exchanges. An lot of People not Sign up on an Exchanges that are not respected so an Exchanges is need that is one of the Biggest, the Key is Quality and not Quantity!
3. Make Marketing in different Languages.
4. Make an White Paper where People can see there is an Plan with this Coin. Current there is absolut no Plan with it.
5. Make the Coin usable for online Things like Gambling! Online Gambling for example is always an good Way to make an Product on an easy Way more prominent because most Gambler not use Bank Accounts, they use Neteller or other Services and have no Problems when there is one more Step to use the Funds for Gambling. Bank --> Neteller or Bank --> BTCZ is at Gambling not an Problem and the User Accept this Ways because they like play anonym.
Do not spend any Time now to make it usable for Things like Online Shopping, this is complete worthless because the Coin is not on any trusted Exchange. They Way from real Money to buy BTCZ is much to hard and 95% of the normal Internet Users will not go this Way on not respected Exchanges. An the other Point is, if i buy things Online i use PayPal because it is easy and it is complete Free for the Customers. So why to hell any User should spend an Hour or more to get BTCZ for pay anything Online?
The best way to go when there is no consensus it to split the chain. I guess a team that stongly disagree with the principles of BTCZ are welcome to creat another coin from it BTCZALPHABET. What do you think? I am not in any Team and i not Plan build any Coin. I just talk open and not as an Fanboy, but it is as i say the most Users in this Thread are hyped this Coin like Hell with closed Eyes. They just need open the Eyes, look on the Facts and then they see this Coin, without changes and decrease in Coin supply is an Dead Coin in the near Future. What Results are coming from all the new Shit Exchanges where the coin is add now? What is the Results from other things like the Addon for Shops? Build an Addon for Shops but not have the Coin an any good Exchanges is the same as when you go to an ATM grab 1000$ and fire it up. An lot of things are made but everything without an clear line or plan. And this Words need write to take care on New Users that maybe put Money in BTCZ and lost it all when i is at 0.0000001 in some Months. |
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Everybody needs to calm down a bit. BitcoinZ is a great product. This is not a token it is a coin, replacement for Bitcoin, hence Bitcoin 2.0. For me, it has everything a coin I intend to use as money: - maximum number of coins to be issued, 21 billion, is a good thing. One day in a future when we are using BTCZ in real life, I want things to feel natural. For example, I want to pay for a dinner 20 BTCZ, for a car 21000 and for a house 350000 BTCZ. Those numbers feel natural to me. Paying 35 BTC for a house, the number does not feel natural to me.
- private addresses are a must for me. I value my privacy, and I do not want my balance and spending history to be available for the whole world to see.
- transaction speeds are already great, but I'm sure, in the future, some new technical solutions will be available, so the speeds will also increase as the number of people using BTCZ will increase
- decentralization is also essential. If you have just a few large mining farms controlling all the mining, manipulations are sure to occur.
- GPU mining allows ordinary people to become miners with existing equipment
So technical aspects of BTCZ coin are absolutely great! For those FUDing about how this coin is dying, I would like you to consider a few things: - coin is only a few months old. It needs time to develop and to be accepted by people. Many coins needed years before some sort of real success. VTC, also community coin, for example.
- if you get involved into BTCZ just to day trade and become rich quickly, then true, this coin is probably not for you.
- the whole market is still very bearish, even tokens with large dedicated teams and massive funds from ICOs, also struggle with prices. Many tokens are near ICO prices.
If you believe in this coin, and if you have patience needed to be in this business, then this is a great time to accumulate. You can buy cheap BTCZ or mine it. I'm sure in a year or two you will not be sorry. Of course, nothing in life is 100%. True in the future this coin will need to get some sort of foundation that will become a little more professionally managed, but for now we as a community, just need to stay positive and try to do our part, spreading the word about this great product, voting, ... 21 Billion ist just to much and makes no sense in any Case because if the Coin will be used for anything there is an Flow. And also the Coin is not just some Months old, it arrive 6 Months in some Weeks! The Price now is on the same Level as the Coin have started. So you would say Nice Run and everything was made perfect? And your calculation : "I want to pay for a dinner 20 BTCZ, for a car 21000 and for a house 350000 BTCZ. Those numbers feel natural to me." is complete wrong too! This Coin with that massive number of 21 Billion Coins will never, absolut never reach 1$ or €! So in the Case that you ever (i do not thing so, it will go to Zero before this) can pay your Dinner with it then you pay (at the current Price and it will not go much higher) 10000 BTCZ for an 20$/€ Dinner. This feel more realistic for you?  |
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No the Miners are not the fault the faults are :
Max Supply 21.000.000.000 BTCZ at least 3 digits to high. Complete wrong Way from start with this Number and if that will not corrected asap it will never increase for sure.
The Coin is just on Shit Exchanges and as you see the "Community" just try put it on more Shit Exchanges.
What about the 10 BTC from the Investor? Weeks gone and the Coin is still on NO good Exchanges and no Worth what is the Plan. Transparency works not on this Way!
No White Paper, no Plans for the Coin, just an Community Paper with is more or less useless.
No other Coin is so worthless like this because the massive max Supply, the highest Price ever in December 2018 at the massive Crypto Hype was 0,02xx LOL! And this is because the Max Supply and the fail with Exchanges.
Pro
Just the Big Community is an little pro but there also is an Con in this because the most Guys here hyped the Coin without any reason, most are complete not realistic and hyped the Coin even now where it falls to absolut worthless. BTCZ is on free fall since Weeks and here you just read best Equihash Coin blablabla. No, it is not the best Equihash Coin! It is current the best Equihash Coin from the bottom of the Table, this is more true!
Solutions:
1. Correct the Max Supply and decrease it massive.
2. Use the Money from Investor now and place it on an good exchanges. An lot of People not Sign up on an Exchanges that are not respected so an Exchanges is need that is one of the Biggest, the Key is Quality and not Quantity!
3. Make Marketing in different Languages.
4. Make an White Paper where People can see there is an Plan with this Coin. Current there is absolut no Plan with it.
5. Make the Coin usable for online Things like Gambling! Online Gambling for example is always an good Way to make an Product on an easy Way more prominent because most Gambler not use Bank Accounts, they use Neteller or other Services and have no Problems when there is one more Step to use the Funds for Gambling. Bank --> Neteller or Bank --> BTCZ is at Gambling not an Problem and the User Accept this Ways because they like play anonym.
Do not spend any Time now to make it usable for Things like Online Shopping, this is complete worthless because the Coin is not on any trusted Exchange. They Way from real Money to buy BTCZ is much to hard and 95% of the normal Internet Users will not go this Way on not respected Exchanges. An the other Point is, if i buy things Online i use PayPal because it is easy and it is complete Free for the Customers. So why to hell any User should spend an Hour or more to get BTCZ for pay anything Online?
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What profits do you make with a GTX 1070/1080, thankful for answer!
Dont mine that Shit Coin! I try 1 Hour with arround 10Mh/s 7 x 1080ti = 0.27 Goa so arround 1.27$ Hour. |
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This is not an Mining Crash, it is an Crypto Crash.. Most Coins go down massive since Weeks this is what you see on Whattomine...
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@tytanick Is it possible that you add this miner : https://www.bminer.me/? It runs much better as Dstm not only with better Rates, it use less Power then all other Miners withe better Hash Rates. |
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Verkauft wird ein Ebit E9+ 9T Miner für Bitcoins oder andere Coins mit dem SHA256 Algo. Das Gerät war nur 2 Wochen in Betrieb und ist in einwandfreiem Zustand, verkauft wird es weil es ganz einfach zu laut ist. Ich hatte den Miner in einem leeren Zimmer in der Wohnung laufen, man hört ihn aber auch im rest der Wohnung und einen Kellerraum habe ich nicht daher der Verkauf. Das Gerät läuft konstant mit 9 bis 10 Thz. Der Preis beträgt 3700€ und liegt deutlich unter meinem Einkaufspreis.   Link zum Hersteller mit allen Infos : http://miner.ebang.com.cn/goods-5.htmlZahlungsmöglichkeiten: 1. Barzahlung bei Abholung (zwischen Siegen und Gießen) hier ist natürlich dann auch ein kurzer Funktionstest möglich. 2. Überweisung 3. PayPal Es wird nichts verschickt bevor die Zahlung eingegangen ist, ist kein Vertrauen da, so nutztest Du die Zahlungsmöglichkeit 1 und holst dir das Gerät hier ab und bekommst die Funktionsfähigkeit live und in Farbe vorgeführt. Sollte ein Versand gewünscht werden so kostet dieser 25 Euro da DHL bei einem normalen Paket nur bis 500€ versichert und dieser Artikel deutlich mehr wert ist. DHL nimmt für den Versand mit Versicherung bis zu 25000€ 18,99€ + 6,99. |
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Wenn der Preis passt würde ich 2 12er nehmen. Wie ist denn voraussichtlich die Lieferzeit?
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