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1  Economy / Speculation / Re: MtGOX down? on: February 25, 2014, 10:12:03 AM
btc-e is down as well atm?

Working for me.

yeah all good now, couldn't load it for 15mins, prob creaking under the strain Wink
2  Economy / Speculation / Re: MtGOX down? on: February 25, 2014, 09:57:49 AM
btc-e is down as well atm?
3  Economy / Speculation / Re: SEEMS LIKE LARGE BTC HOLDERS TRYING TO KEEP PRICE AROUND $800 on: February 03, 2014, 10:56:30 PM
Seems that the price of btc has maintained right around the $800 level on all exchanges for a fairly long time (except for Mtgox) - and it is doing so a little bit too conveniently.  With the stock market making big moves and various big news stories coming out about Turkey, Argentina, BTC china accepting deposits again, etc, you would think there would be bigger moves.  My guess:  the large btc holders are trying to reduce volatility in btc to remove this stigma about it.  They do so by capping rises and putting a floor on dips.  Manipulation is manipulation.  Let the market take it where it wants to go.

China is irrelevant until Feb 6-7th when either deposits actually come through or PBOC bans again. Feb 6-7th is the actual 'Jan 31st'.

This.

Without subscribing to the end of the world fud, any effect of the CNYear will happen then. Right now everyone's showing their relatives about bitcoin.
4  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC is being manipulated into stability. But why? on: January 23, 2014, 03:54:36 PM
Spot on.
5  Economy / Speculation / Re: Consolidating Trend -- A Page From Arepo's Notes on: January 13, 2014, 07:34:27 AM
https://i.imgur.com/fXNmuDK.png -Gox
https://i.imgur.com/sKvNTWM.png -China

Looks like we're setting up for the capitulation to flesh out. It's been a strange few days, it seems like there's an appetite to go down but the whales are holding for better prices. As usual gox is bouyant but china retains the initiative. For me that 6hr mass index reversal bulge is the main signal of an impending drop, bollinger's low and stochRSI can accelerate down for a while to make up for the past month. Also despite all the fighting volume is still relatively low compared to the main bubble. I'm not good enough to guess timing but my outlook remains bearish.

posting price targets creates a confounding effect that, if enough people know about and "trust" a specific target, and trade according to their best possible actions, the Nash Equilibrium will necessarily invalidate that target as players try to undercut each other for better and better prices. for this reason i usually only provide them in private or in limited release paid reports.

exactly, good signals from deep analysis can negate themselves if released, setting a bounty for this is perfectly reasonable, especially if the methods have worked better than chance recently.

I bet knowledgeable eyes watch the blockchain to see where and when large amounts of bitcoin flow in and out (are the addresses public?  all of them?)
but no one will know the amounts of funds going in and out which would show appetite for support/pump/crashes

i've totally seen a massive surge in btc transferred when a crash stalled midway, i think in that case you can be pretty confident that most of it's replenishing exchanges to dump, which is some idea of the "appetite". But it's probably one of the only cases where watching the blockchain helps. Better than nothing though, and it's a decent signal as btc flows fast compared to fiat.

Charts on bitcoin exchanges is fun and I got roped into them for a while but all these hours would be best spent finding out the inflows/outflows of BTC & fiat per exchange on an hourly basis.

i hear what you mean. i find a lot of the trappings of the trader universe like emas, donchian channels, and marking a chart up with every possible fibonacci retracement to be a little distracting.

i work with a small set of classic indicators including the ones presented in the OP, as well as volume data, and fractal analysis, which is related to Elliot's wave model. fractal analysis attempts to find consistent patterns in the price function which can be used to better understand the "price environment". these patterns include triangle consolidation patterns, double-tops, cusp-tops, and bubble patterns (oscillation model). as for classic indicators, i find that the best indicators are the ones that incorporate volume heavily into the algorithm, because volume is one step closer to the inflow/outflow data you talk about.

and while i'm sure that these data would be a useful indicator in some sense (i'd expect it to look like a transformation of the mass index, peaking at times of of market uncertainty and reversals, correlating with peak in- and outflow), i think actual trade volume is far more important. i have often said that the only two important sets of data are the price function and the volume. i treat these data alone with a scientific approach and strive towards the simplest models that are effective at anticipating price behavior.

that being said, i have found empirically that they have "yielded returns better than chance during the time period which i have employed them". the problem of induction, of course, forces me to consider that this may simply be due to chance Wink so i'm not claiming any superpowers here regarding predicting what is an inherently stochastic function, the price function.

--arepo

Awesome, have you seen this book by Benoit Mandelbrot: http://amzn.to/1afxNeA ? I found it a great read, finished it just before he died (sadly). Without giving away too much can i ask do you look for self similarity across different scales? I'd like to give it a try sometime, probably start by minimising squared residuals between plots of varying length within a range. Def agree with sticking to actual trade vol and price as pure datasets, days destroyed/blockchain trans vol/fiat exchange rates etc would be fun to look at but their relevance might only be occasional and otherwise add noise to normal forecasting.
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] Is payonix.com a legitimate AISC H/w manufacturer in Australia? on: January 11, 2014, 04:00:34 AM
finally got everything back, I paid 24.1 btc for hosted mining 2 days before the final 'live event'. I actually flew up to surfers for it and stood in the Hilton foyer by myself like a stooge. Next day asked for a refund, 6 weeks and 95 emails later I got it all back (minus 0.14 btc in 'processing fees'). Bit by bit they paid as they were speculating on the markets, there were at least 2 people replying as 'Andrew', one politely keeping the business facade and the other a cocky speculator who overused the word "buddy". They had the coins over the whole crash and basically used us as a free short service. Anyway just glad the ordeal is over.
7  Economy / Speculation / Re: Consolidating Trend -- A Page From Arepo's Notes on: January 07, 2014, 03:02:31 PM
s'all about natural systems  Wink

true that Wink

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... I think most will be waiting to buy lower or when it's a bit more stable....

yes, but will anyone be selling? that is the key. if the HODLers hold and the fearful watch, then we will consolidate sideways and not slip into a bear market. the steady underlying buying pressure will buoy us along with the trend, and we will reach Sunday's peak in a couple of days. we need to see some renewed selling pressure today to break us out of this consolidation pattern and into a real mid-term correction.

--arepo

pretty much, but I sense a few whales still lurking ready to manipulate the price, possibly chinese, and still a lot of people ready to short one last dip. It might be already starting, china's dipped below 5000.

Sorry, couldn't resist!  Cheesy

ha!

Say we break through it though. We have 2 post-ATH lows, 590 and 460. Obviously, should we fall below 460 all bets are off. Staying above both of them, on the other hand will give some confidence we've seen the capitulation bottom. Not a signal for a big rally, but slowly upwards moving consolidation probably.

agreed, i'd say if we get to that we'd hit between 650-700
8  Economy / Speculation / Re: Consolidating Trend -- A Page From Arepo's Notes on: January 07, 2014, 11:19:22 AM
s'all about natural systems  Wink

what a snap! but yeah def haven't ruled out consolidation yet considering the behaviour of the bubble so far as you said, but it seems like the bubble has a bit left in it. And even though there's a lot of new awareness and money coming in I think most will be waiting to buy lower or when it's a bit more stable. but whatever you never know.

yeah i guess diagrams can be easy to debate, but looking forward to the comparison. I still have a lot to familiarise myself with but i'm interested in trying some numerical analysis in the future if i can find the time. Anyway the next few days should be interesting. It looks like we're already breaking through the 1000 support, china did it with 5600 no problems.
9  Economy / Speculation / Re: Consolidating Trend -- A Page From Arepo's Notes on: January 07, 2014, 05:48:29 AM
arepo, great stuff, always consistent and interesting, as a go player myself with a bg in physics getting into these market metrics I really appreciate it. I'll send you some tips when I can dude.

At the moment the bear case seems stronger to me, the Bollinger Width on the same scale is nose diving and I think a new ATH in the next few days is a stretch, so down. StochRSI is very cool as the second derivative of price but because it multi dips the thresholds so much I wouldn't take it's current state as a bullish signal yet. I'd also hazard a guess that absolute support has risen from 600 to 700 in the last week.

Cheers
10  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is Bitcoin future proof & secure? on: December 17, 2013, 04:59:50 AM
One of the big selling cards for me getting into btc was that even if sha256 or ecdsa began to break far in the future the network can transition to a stronger algorithm relatively easily with majority support and contingency plans are already in place. btc will have bumps and swells but with momentum this thing may never die.
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