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With daily or regular gambling, I have noticed that I got satisfied or have enough of entertainment much quickly. Maybe because I am loosing interesting in gambling, maybe because it takes little time to get entertained, maybe because it is online gambling, and gambling offline in a company of friends is much better. For me this is much better. Because in the past, when I used to visit offline casinos, I used to spent hours there. Not necessary I was gambling, as it was a place to meet. But for me it is preferable to play little if I want to, then spend time getting to offline casino, prepare for that, gamble, return home, whole evening flies by like nothing. With online gambling, after 20 minutes of playing I am 100% I will start reading news or surfing internet parallel, and closing casino site tab eventually.
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Damn so this already spread everywhere I think this only happens in my country since I know it by myself here in my village there is a lot teen play gamble start from the middle school it like 13 years old frennn what a crazy right and the news is all over the place and mostly they play slot deposit and withdraw here is so simple you can top up using app called DANA via minimart.
People are concerned this gonna blow out and the government start to notice it and keep blocking out gambling site since here gamble is also illegal
And what money do they bet with? When I was 13 years old I think they would give me the equivalent of 10 or 20 bucks a week and if I spent it gambling I wouldn't have enough to buy sodas or whatever. When I was a kid and went to school, my father game equivalent of $1 a day, that I can buy something for lunch at school (even though school ended at around lunch time and I ate lunch at home). I have spent those money on snacks or chewing gums. When I was in the university, besides having a part time job, father also gave me around $50 per month as pocket money, which I supposed to spent on a snack or coffee during studies. I have spent those money on video games and on drinks in clubs. I was not an exception. I think every kid spent pocket money the way he wants, but not the way parents suppose they would spend it. The idea is, that online gambling, like a trend, would end and teens will spend money on something else. That is just a fact and adults must accept that. Gums>Snacks>soda>games>gambling>. Trends can not last forever. After gambling it will be something else that will worry society. Well yeah, you have a point but spending our money in different things is not the same the way kids spending it in gambling. It's okay to spend our money even if it's not our parents wants as long as it's for our own use but if it's for gambling, that's a different story, we really need the guidance of the parents because we all know that gambling will become the reason of developing addictions at very young age, and as you've said, it is trend nowadays that's why the counts of people spending in this activity is rising more and more. It seems unlikely that gambling will go out of trend because it has been in demand in society for a long time, especially now that there are many online gambling sites that are very accessible to everyone. I would not use such words as developing addiction among teens or kids. Their addiction is easy to stop. They ran out of money and that is it. They might try to steal money, but only few do that, and many got caught. The real problem are gadgets and their affordability. Take gadgets from kids and gambling problems among teens will be solved. Gambling as trend wont disappear, but gambling among teens as a trend will disappear most likely. Children are not permanent. All the time they want new and more. Ever seen kids playing with same toys, same video games, wear same clothes, using same gadgets? Adults can adopt to "old things", kids and teens no. It is easy to change teens trend - make something that was once expensive, more affordable. |
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There are few scenarios: 1. A brand new user accused a brand new casino = people tend to support the user. 2. A brand new user accused a highly reputable casino = people will blame the user and say the user broke the casino's terms. 3. A highly reputable user accused a brand new casino = people will support the user and leave negative tag to the casino. 4. A highly reputable user accused a highly reputable casino = people tend to shut their mouth, even the highly reputable user leave a negative feedback, but there are still few people will support the casino.  You can add to your list a situation when a gambler didn’t fully understand the situation he is in, or have some technical issues, or is just impatient, but he immediately run on a forum to create an accusation topic. I see nothing bad in new user posting an accusation. Not everyone has prepared accounts on different forums, just in case something might go wrong in their life and need to share that with others. Nevertheless I see other problem with accusations - not always gambler give full explanation of a situation, every step they have made. But prefer to give minimum info. Just "I got scammed, amount of money lost, few lines of description". |
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Damn so this already spread everywhere I think this only happens in my country since I know it by myself here in my village there is a lot teen play gamble start from the middle school it like 13 years old frennn what a crazy right and the news is all over the place and mostly they play slot deposit and withdraw here is so simple you can top up using app called DANA via minimart.
People are concerned this gonna blow out and the government start to notice it and keep blocking out gambling site since here gamble is also illegal
And what money do they bet with? When I was 13 years old I think they would give me the equivalent of 10 or 20 bucks a week and if I spent it gambling I wouldn't have enough to buy sodas or whatever. When I was a kid and went to school, my father game equivalent of $1 a day, that I can buy something for lunch at school (even though school ended at around lunch time and I ate lunch at home). I have spent those money on snacks or chewing gums. When I was in the university, besides having a part time job, father also gave me around $50 per month as pocket money, which I supposed to spent on a snack or coffee during studies. I have spent those money on video games and on drinks in clubs. I was not an exception. I think every kid spent pocket money the way he wants, but not the way parents suppose they would spend it. The idea is, that online gambling, like a trend, would end and teens will spend money on something else. That is just a fact and adults must accept that. Gums>Snacks>soda>games>gambling>. Trends can not last forever. After gambling it will be something else that will worry society. |
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What you say is true, gambling is not your goal in life, in fact I think for some people it is the same as you. Apart from that, gambling every day is actually everyone's right, but what I'm afraid of is losing self-control which can make us addicted to continuing to invest money in gambling without realizing that we have lost a lot of money in gambling.
I know it sounds hard to do, but you should change your attitude to money, otherwise they will turn your crazy. I have said many times already, for me gambling is the same as spending money. I dont expect to win every bet. For me gambling=spending=getting something in exchange. If I would start calculating how much I have lost and spend on some things, I would go nuts. If I even manage to calculate how much I have spend on gambling, I think I would quit. If I manage to calculate how much I have spend on fast food or eating outside, I think I will never ever eat beyond home. But I never do such calculations. I dont want to limit myself or make strong special rules. I have turned gambling into a habit that I do quite often and spend little money on it. I would better gamble and lose a dollar daily, than gamble once a month and lose $100. Because a dollar today is nothing, but for $100 I can get something significant. |
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For me entertainment in gambling is the moment when you wait the result of a round/bet/game. When I make a deposit to gamble, I consider that I have already spend money. I dont expect to win. So even if I lose, I am not much disappointed or dont turn angry, not a tragedy for me. I feel like "this time you was better, but lets try out this now". This is sort of a positive challenge for me. I get a positive vibe in the end. A portion of fun. Like karting with friends. You ride, you hit others, you surpass others, you lose positions, and in end you are exhauster, but talk about riding sessions with friends. Even though you did not win anything, you can ride your own car every day, and you have spend money.
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С увольнением (это если вернуться к заголовку топика) тоже есть главная проблема и все остальные: и главная в том, что в крипте все доходы, кроме работы в командах тех или иных проектов, нестабильные, а возникнет перерыв в стаже, который потом снизит вероятность найма, если это будет нужно. Идти работать в Макдоналдс лет в 50, чтобы не помереть с голоду, это так себе перспектива. В итоге, чтобы не париться по поводу доходов, капитал должен быть такой, какой практически никто из криптанов не сколотит, к сожалению...
Так а разве можно в современном мире говорить о какой-то стабильной работе? Я считаю, что они все нестабильные, независимо от сферы. Про криптосферу в этом плане просто больше предубеждений, потому что она новая относительно, плюс она напрямую связана с риском и колебаниями, это прям ее суть. Но если проанализировать другие отрасли, то там люди с такой же беспочвенностью сталкиваются. Просто в наемной работе решения принимаются за тебя, и возникает ощущение большей защищенности. В современном мире полно стабильной работы. Работодатель всегда готов оплачивать низкоквалифицированный труд. Всем всегда нужна дешевая рабочая сила. Стабильная работа - кассир в продуктовом. Человек без амбиций или довольствующийся малым - самый стабильный работник. Я одного и того же кассира видел когда был школьником, студентом, переехал и стал дядькой с сединой. Стаж это вообще какая-то бесполезная характеристика, которая только влияет на пенсию. Опят тоже понятие растяжимое. Вот что лучше, опят работы по 1 году в 10 разных сферах, или 10 лет на одной должности. А что касается вопроса топика, то сегодня я бы сказал что увольняться надо только если работа сильно невыносима. Сегодня лучше иметь множество источников доходов, стабильных или нет, чем 1 стабильный или 1 сверхприбыльный. |
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Gambling is just a means of entertainment. People should have the understanding to spend money the same as what they spent on going to a movie or an outing. When one has such a mentality, gambling won't be problematic because the person will get used to enjoying the winning and won't be chasing the losses. When one starts to chase the loss, there starts the problem of losing more and more. Not everyone is lucky enough to make money out of gambling, so when we consider it entertainment, if we were able to make money, then that's the best part of one's gambling activity.
Yeah, that's true. But in practice, most people will spend way more while gambling compared to other entertainment options. This is because the minimum bets at casinos is way higher than a normal night out. For example, the price of a movie ticket, which is about 2 hours of entertainment, can be used in gambling in a few minutes (or even seconds sometimes). When I go out with my wife to watch a movie, it is does not end with just watching movie. You always have to get snacks in addition to a tickets. Since we watch movie in the evening, snacks are not perfect dinner, so in addition you have to have a good dinner in the end. So one movie evening might cost 50-150 EUR. Compared to a casino, those 50-150 are already spend money, you cant return them. But casino it is not always like you think it is, not always you bet and lose every bet. You might end with profit, you might gamble for those 2-3h and finish with loosing less than 50 EUR. Experience and final result are different all the time. With movies it is only spending. I have never heard that someone went to a movie, and later went home with profit. |
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It's true what you said, gambling every day is of course dangerous because finances will become a mess where the focus will only be used on gambling. while basic needs may be neglected, and in my opinion this does not only apply to one side, of course to all parties, rich or poor, this applies because even though they have a lot of money, of course it is not the right thing to do if they gamble every day. and indeed I don't see the need to bet every day because the reality is that what will happen will only cause us problems. betting every day is probably the same as inviting trouble on purpose, even though there is a chance to win but the thing that will dominate the most is that we lose a lot of money instead of making a lot of money.
with those who gamble every day in my opinion they are addicted to gambling, because they can't get through the day without gambling even for just one day, what do you think about those who gamble every day, are they addicted?
Apart from that, if they gamble every day, I think it will put too much pressure on their mental health, which if they can't accept it, they could go crazy or get stressed.
Can we compare daily gambling with collecting crypto from faucets and boxes on casino pages? Because I do collect those tiny rewards daily, but use them to gamble really rarely. In other words, I am in touch with gambling every day. Just in few clicks I am away from making a deposit or placing a bet. I can even allow myself to (never though about it before frankly) deposit $5 daily and gamble. However I have never done anything like that. Maybe you can say that I am walking on a thin ice, but I have been doing it for ages already. if everything is still fine it doesn't matter, just to be on the safe side, because you yourself know about gambling which can attract everyone when it comes to wins or profits subconsciously it can attract everyone moreover of course everyone needs Money. Maybe what you are doing is quite vulnerable to addiction because it is related to gambling. As you said yourself, by practically walking on thin ice, of course there is a possibility that the ice will crack and make you drown in it, but with good control you can make everything fine. Apart from that, I think maybe even those who already have a job and a salary are not advised to gamble by depositing a certain amount of money every day to gamble. For example, as you said by depositing $5 every day, it doesn't sound like much in terms of the amount, but the chance of addiction will be there and can make everything fall apart in a short period of time. I myself gamble once a week, only on weekends, and if I want to, that's because it's not guaranteed either. So in my opinion, no matter how good we are at gambling, it's better not to do it every day. I take things a little bit more easy. Those $5 I can easily spend on daily gambling, I can spend on a lunch. But instead I can take lunch from home to work. And on the weekend, I am sure that I will find something for lunch at work. Or I can spend those $5 on a coffee on the way to work. Or I can get a coffee at work. Anyway, those $5 are not a life changer, but I spend them on trifles daily. Important notice - I am not gambling like every day, but I can say that 5 out of 7 days at week I spend some time gambling. Some people might call me addictive gambler. But I can always stop if I want. Gambling is not my life goal. And the money I spend on gambling isnt actually that much. |
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Firstly, I think it's important to be calling gambling "entertainment", like you did in your post, when explaining beginners the dangers of it. Because the main danger is lying exactly there: the possibility of stopping to treat gambling as entertainment. It's when you are stepping into the dangerous waters of treating gambling as some money-making business you problems can begin growing like wild weeds. So, don't do that, beginners. Don't treat gambling as anything else but entertainment.
Gambling is a different type of entertainment though. First of all, it is way more expensive per hour than other entertainment options. Second, the "feel good" part of it is addictive, so you want more and more. If you watch a game, once it is finished you are usually satisfied, same with a movie, show, dinner, etc. With gambling it is different. It is designed so that you always want more. I would not call gambling as more expensive entertainment. This still individually. Gambler can win during that hours and end with profit. Gambler can bet 1 sat all the time. A single movie theatre visit can cost more if you take all the options. That "feel good" part with time can turn into "fed up with gambling". If you watch sports and make a bet, when game finishes you are, as you say usually satisfied, and I doubt that gambler will want to gamble more, since the game is over. So from this I can make such and advice - place bets only on beloved team. This you will support it, be engaged into gambling, and gambling will be pause when the game is over. Such kind of gambling wont turn into none-stop gambling, like with slots or table games. |
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Я наверно остановлюсь на варианте, что всю школьную систему лучше переделать и сделать предметы выборочными, но начальные или основы основ обязательными. Я думаю многие согласятся, что школа сегодня это просто место куда родители отправляют ребенка провести время пока они на работе, а не за знаниями. Дайте ребенку планшет, учителя который будет присматривать за тем, чтобы ребенок не просто играл в игры, а что-то учил и развивался и этого будет достаточно. Такого количества с бесполезными задачами как по математике, физике и химии, и большого количества уроков по крипте не нужны в школе. Пусть школьник сам находит что ему учить, а учителя показывают направления где взять знания и как это применить. Пока не будет необходимости, не будет понимания того что учат. Очень просто и грубо, но это факт.
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Could it be that the rich understand financial management more?
I agree with you that the rich don't worry much when it comes to gambling. If they lose money, their life will be destroyed, their family will not be able to spend, they will not be able to buy food to support their family, and they will not be able to send their children to school, the rich do not think that. Due to this they have no recoil and feel comfortable playing the game. When they play with joy, without tension they win. On the other hand, a poor man always worries about his money. If he loses this money, then his family will be in need today. He may not be able to make his child study well, not be able to manage the family well, and not be able to buy his mother's medicine. Thinking about all these things he makes mistakes and he loses. So you say that rich people isnt able to place everything they have got? We recently got here topic where casino allowed drunk businessmen to place bets and in the end he has lost +100 million worth company that he was building all his life. Or you think that rich people are so reckless due to their wealth, that they can bust money without care? They would be poor, if they had such attitude. Rich and poor does not win or lose more than others. They all gamble as much as they can afford and each with individual tactics and success. |
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From a legal point of view, business can not forbid customer to use or purchase their goods or services. IRL nobody can kick you from casino, shop or etc, if you are there during their working hours and havent violated any rule. As to limiting person in something, maybe only a sales person can do everything slowly and limit the amount of service or goods you are going to receive. But I dont know if this works for online business also. Legally, I dont think that casino can kick, ban or limit gambler online. But technically they can always do this and call it «during or for investigation». But from my point of view, this is wrong thing to do, as every customer must be treated identically.
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Давайте рассмотрим ситуацию с такой стороны. Я родитель, работаю врачом, мечтаю чтобы мой ребенок тоже связал свое будущее с медициной. Я в криптовалюте не разбираюсь, но что-то слышал про анонимные транзакции и платежи в интернете. Так же в новостях слышал о пирамидах и прочих обманах при покупке крипты. Я скорее всего буду всячески против такого урока, и буду просить увеличить уроки биологии и химии, вместо дополнительного урока по крипте. Я намекаю на то, что не обязательно интересующую какое-то количество людей тему, включать в обязательную школьную программу в очень развернутом виде.
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Nobody here looked on the situations this way: when people ask to borrow money, he asks for help. Most of people see this like this: I am not lending money, because I dont want to be that persons sponsor. Only few consider lending as help. Why do you think that we should not help others? Not necessary to help each and everyone. Each case must be considered separately. Even lending money for gambling might be considered as something good. Lets suppose a person has lost money and now has a debt. He can start living normally, when he had to think all the time about gambling debt. Why not lend such guy money, let him repay debt (it is common for gambling debtors to pay an extra % for their debt, that is increasing all the time) and focus on the work to earn and repay you.
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I think that the answer lays on the perspective how we look on gambling. There are people who see gambling only as an entertainment or time killer. For me, that is the way gambling is, and I find it ok. Some people see gambling as a way to earn. Well, I can say that there are much better ways to earn.
Society needs gambling as additional way to have fun. Society must change attitude to gambling from negative (stop reading and producing info how people only lose) to neutral (a way to have fun, but not a primary one).
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If a person of full age gambles then of course the declaration will be ready on that day, but whenever under 18 years of age the person will go to ruin. Although gambling is a sign of harm on both sides, the age difference is the most important. Because at the age of 18 he will be fully fit for gambling but if he is under that age he should take care of his studies. But whenever he indulges in gambling he will face future losses because gambling is loss.
It is quite interesting the way you put it with your post, because it is something I have seen on their places around the internet, how so many people see the age of 18 or 21 as a magical number when the person changes completely come comes to the feeling between good and evil. In reality, there is not much difference between someone of 17 years old and other person already in their 18 years of age. It is a spectrum of psychological behaviors and maturity, it is not black a white. the age of 18 is a line which was placed legally by most of authorities and governments in the world, because they came to the conclusion most people around that age are capable enough to consent the loss of their money and also able to manage the earning of money through other means: like working. I also dont see it right to make it totally "from 18 only". Lets imagine a person is 17 and is standing next to casino, but at 00:00 he will become 18 and somebody think that it will be a completely different person who will enter the casino? What about people whos age is close to 30, but they look like teenagers. Or kids that are 17, but have thick beard and hoarse voice, that nobody even bother checking their ID? |
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Slowly this situation is turning into not Mike Tyson destroying his opponent, but his opponent destroying Mike. Jake Paul has already tested himself on senior or retired fighters, now he is about to fight most aged opponent. I believe that hit & Run tactics would be a perfect match here. Mike Tyson can be a truly legend and professional, but on July 20 he will be fighting two opponents on one time. His age and Jake Paul. Dont know of Jake Paul should be proud or any happy if he wins by knockout.
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It's true what you said, gambling every day is of course dangerous because finances will become a mess where the focus will only be used on gambling. while basic needs may be neglected, and in my opinion this does not only apply to one side, of course to all parties, rich or poor, this applies because even though they have a lot of money, of course it is not the right thing to do if they gamble every day. and indeed I don't see the need to bet every day because the reality is that what will happen will only cause us problems. betting every day is probably the same as inviting trouble on purpose, even though there is a chance to win but the thing that will dominate the most is that we lose a lot of money instead of making a lot of money.
with those who gamble every day in my opinion they are addicted to gambling, because they can't get through the day without gambling even for just one day, what do you think about those who gamble every day, are they addicted?
Apart from that, if they gamble every day, I think it will put too much pressure on their mental health, which if they can't accept it, they could go crazy or get stressed.
Can we compare daily gambling with collecting crypto from faucets and boxes on casino pages? Because I do collect those tiny rewards daily, but use them to gamble really rarely. In other words, I am in touch with gambling every day. Just in few clicks I am away from making a deposit or placing a bet. I can even allow myself to (never though about it before frankly) deposit $5 daily and gamble. However I have never done anything like that. Maybe you can say that I am walking on a thin ice, but I have been doing it for ages already. |
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