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Why don't you buy Bitcoin directly from the members of this forum, there are many people who are willing to make transactions with you. As long as you have the appropriate type of payment. I think it is not too difficult to make such a transaction. Just post a post in the service section and you will get more suggestions.
Also, I see you rejecting LocalBitcoins, what do you think about Paxful? Can you use it?
Thank you Blitzboy, I am not rejecting Localbitcoins, I am just stating a fact - that Localbitcoins no longer offer an option to buy BTC via an in-person trade; this means there is no more way to trade/buy BTC via Localbitcoins without KYC or makinf yourself known in some other way, such as using Paypal or Zelle which are not anonymous payment methods in any way. I will try Paxful, have not tried it yet. |
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You can still do the localbitcoin type of deal with just in hand cash transactions as well without worrying about doing digital, there are methods to contact with those people online via email etc and then you can learn where they are from and you can make transactions by meeting somewhere and you will give them cash and they will give you the bitcoins and you can get a cup of coffee while waiting for confirmation if you are still not sure about it.
However, if you want to be anonymous, and I mean truly anonymous, just buy from somewhere overseas, that way nobody will ask you what this money was for because usually sending it overseas means the country that receives the money asks that question which is their problem and you will get bitcoin that nobody knows about.
Thank you for your response, el kaka22. I am not sure I understand your line about buying overseas. Could you use a hypothetical example please? |
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You can either earn BTC in the forum or simply make a deal from the users in the Currency Exchange , you just have top be very careful which users though because some are scammers. Your local section in the forum might really help you with it, its risky but doable to meet up with someone to buy form him. Yes it is possible to buy bitcoin in this forum as well, but you need to have an escrow for you to be sure that can happen, but I would rather buy bitcoin is an exchange , in there you can buy anonymously too, and it is good because it is an exchange you may convert some of your bitcoin into some altcoins and it is good for investment as well. |
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The most easiest way to anonymously purchase bitcoin in any country would be to find a local seller who has nothing to do with your identity and pay him using any of the convenient payment method or even might be cash without mentioning the reason for purchase.
You would never be questioned by the government for the similar spent capital with no relation to the cryptocurrencies also it might never create any risk for you in the coming future even if your respected nation's government even thinks of banning the transactions. You just have to find a trusted local dealer or might be any over-nation boundary dealer who might accept your desired payment method and can transfer bitcoins for that.
Hmm yeah I think it's the best to buy bitcoin anonymously. Another way is to buy in this forum and use the escrow of honorable members or can be found in the Currency Exchange section of this forum, so there are many forum members who provide anonymous services here, of course, with a variety of payment methods, Thank you for your response, Amel. I will check out the exchange section of the forum asap. What do you mean by "use the escrow of honorable members"? I know what escrow is, just asking how exactly it works in this case. Maybe I will learn about this when I go to the exchange section here, but if you have a link or time to elaborate on what you mean that'd be great. |
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I see many people suggesting localbitcoins and localcrypto, but I will be honest here, that no such service is completely anonymous. You can be tracked down and prosecuted for money laundering if you are taking these routes to do something that is considered illegal in the US. Remember that you need to undergo KYC/AML for many of these services once you try to exchange a certain value. And stay away from paypal. It is the worst method you can use. You risk your account being charge-backed by scammers or the Feds knocking at your door. OTC deals/F2F deals are very risky but can be considered anonymous if you are sending an agent to do th trade for you. Seems very mafia-like doesnt it?  Haha everything you said is very true |
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localcryptos.com (formerly localethereum.com) is a p2p exchange like localbitcoins that does not require KYC. it also supports physical cash transactions. liquidity is not great for p2p cash trades but it's worth putting an ad up and/or periodically checking their listings. https://localcryptos.com/Thank you, will have to check out. |
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Is there an ATM company in USA that doesn't require ID?
There arn't any in the USA. But there is a Canadian company called "localcoin" that operates Bitcoin ATMs in Canada without ID. See https://localcoin.ca/buy/bitcoin-atm/Basically take a trip to Canada. Exchange your US dollars for Canadian dollars in cash. Then use the Canadian cash at one of these bitcoin ATMs to buy the coins. This is viable if you are close to the Canadian border - or if you fancy going on holiday to Canada and buying a bit of bitcoin while you are there. Thank you, alyssa85, this is a good piece of information. |
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I couldn't find a forum topic on this subject, but it doesn't seem to be against the forum rules.
I researched buying Bitcoin anonymously. I don't know if the articles I found are outdated or just originally don't make sense. Basically all articles talk about the same resources listed below with my assessment of them:
Lets just get this one out of the way: Localbitcoins - the option to buy BTC in an in-person transaction was removed in mid-2019. At least for USA.
BTC ATMs - this would have been correct, but today (in 2020), per my research, most of them in US DO require an ID and also take a photo of your face; I tried searching up ATM locations online and then searching info on specific ATM machines/companies in my area and nearby states and all of them mention state ID verification and photo of your face taken when buying the BTC. Probably this isn't the case in all countries, but it seems that in US today it is.
Prepaid cards with Peer2Peer exchanges - It'd be great if someone can share how to make this work, the one place where I found prepaid cards being accepted is Localbitcoins and the only card is "Vanilla". I could not figure out what card that is and how to purchase it. There are 3 main websites that come up in the search: onevanilla.com myvanillacard.com vanillagift.com It is not clear which one is the legitimate website. Also, when attempting to buy a Vanilla card on the websites, it asks for you name, address and phone number, so this is not an anonymous way.
Coinmama.com (with a $150 limit) - incorrect, requires ID and phone number at registration.
WallOfCoins.com - I did not actually try to buy through WallOfCoins because I found multiple complaints on reddit that the platform didn't ask for ID before you make a purchase, but then held your BTC hostage asking for ID in order to release the crypto to your wallet.
Bisq - it actually appears to be a really nice platform, I wish the BTC community could grow this one; and it appears to work, but there are too few offers for in-person transactions in USA for the exchange to really be useful; in simple words you cannot drive to another state every time you need to buy BTC.
I am currently exploring BitQuick.co and #bitcoin-otc.
If I understand correctly, buying via BitQuick is not anonymous because buyer has to deposit cash into sellers bank account at a physical bank branch. This should mean that you will have to write in your name and address on the deposit slip, which can be recorded by the bank and the seller.
Please share usable resources for buying Bitcoin anonymously/in person. All contributions appreciated greatly.
Below are some more questions.
Do my assessments of the different resources sound right? Do you wish to correct me/add something?
Is it Localbitcoins.COM or Localbitcoins.NET ? I searched and people give all kinds of versions. Couldn't make sense of it.
Is there an ATM company in USA that doesn't require ID?
Is it possible to meet miners in person and trade with them in person? Is this something that they are interested in on their end? What would be the correct system for that?
Are there really ways to buy for prepaid cards?
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SPECIFICATION
I would like to thank all of you for your time and your replies.
After reading the first 20 replies in this thread I realized that there is whole spectrum of anonymity and I'll be glad to read tips on any levels of it; just in case I'm specifying below what amount of anonymity I am looking for myself.
I would say that what I am after is an average level of anonymity (I will explain). This means that an In-Person trade is most likely the way to go for me. Or something like an ATM. I wouldn't want to be scammed and therefore I'd like an option with an escrow. This means that some platform for finding the BTC seller without KYC (ex. a decentralized exchange) has to be involved. I do not want use the darknet for this because I do not want to support that ecosystem, I would rather find ways (to source in-person BTC transactions) on the regular internet so I can share them with others because I don't think that darknet should be necessary for creating in-person BTC transactions. This is my personal opinion and noone has to agree with me. As a side note I can also mention that I am okay with fees being on the higher end and the BTC I buy being potentially overpriced as I don't think you can reasonably go around that when looking for anonymity. I am looking to buy fairly often, but overall in relatively small transaction (< 0.15 BTC per transaction).
I'd describe medium level of anonymity as avoiding KYC, trying to have as few parties as possible (or nobody) know my personal information such as name and address or have a photo of me completing the trade. (I guess a high level of anonymity can include sending another person to the in-person trade for you or meeting in a location with no security cameras etc.) But if you wish to share about some highly anonymous methods that you are knowledgeable about this of course would be interesting and useful too since the topic includes "buy Bitcoin anonymously".
I do understand that it is not correct to call Bitcoin itself an anonymous currency/payment method and I think this is an interesting topic for a separate discussion. Here I am mostly just talking about methods to buy BTC without KYC.
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UPDATE
Currently from the replies I have learned about :
Localcoin - ID free ATMs operating in Canada that can be of use to Americans who're willing to travel.
Localcryptos.com - An online exchange similar to localbitcoin without KYC and with an in-person trade option.
And I learned that in the Currency Exchange section of this forum I can find sellers willing to trade BTC for a variety of assets.
Paxful. Have to try still.
I will check these options and post about my experiences in this thread.
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achow101, Thank you for your response. I was able to restore the funds.
In a nutshell:
I let the Bitcoin Core catch up; this is why i am getting back to you after a while. The funds were not there.
There were 2 external hard drives with 2 identical copies of wallets (bitcoin, litecoin) and 1 flash drive with one of each wallet.dat file copies. 1 of hard drives was used as a wallet and connected to the same computer whenever needed to be in active use. The other one just layed as a copy. All of the copies on the hard drives and the flash drive were created at the same time and since then nothing has been done to them (therefore wallet.dat files did not need to be updated on any of the hard drives or the flash drive, all of them were just stored offline and the last date modified for all wallet.dat files was the same). Then the reinstallation of Windows on the computer happens. Then the wallets are connected back to the computer and start running like brand new, request to set directories for data storage/operation. The directories are set to the same as they always used to be. Ltc core catches up, btc core says its empty. Then this happens. The wallet.dat files for btc core on hard drive and the flash drive found to have 2 different sizes. The file on the flash drive is about 10% smaller. In my mind, that could mean that although the "date modified" is the same for the flash drive file as for the hard drive, perhaps a transaction was added to the hard drive (the bigger) wallet.dat on that day, but not to the flash drive one. It is not correct - no transaction matches the "date modified". I try pasting the smaller wallet.dat file from flash drive in place of larger one on hard drive. Run it. It's all there.
Could you please help me reason through this? While researching I saw other people asking about similar situations; i'd like to be able to help people like that in the future. For example how is it possible that a larger .dat file gives out an empty wallet, while a smaller one turns out to have it? Why did ltc catch up, but btc did not while the programs were stored on same hard drive and the wallet.dat files were not altered. If you feel like the questions are demanding i'd love to buy you a coffee, so feel free to drop a LTC address. Thank you.
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Greetings! All help is greatly appreciated. I store Bitcoin Core wallet on an external hard drive. All the files related to the wallet live on the hard drive (as far as I know). Whenever I need for it to catch up on transactions I connect it to one of my computers (always same one) and it updates. Sequence of events: Bitcoin Core wallet lives on an external hard drive with no issues for a while. For an unrelated reason I reinstall Windows on the computer. (Including this in the timeline, so you understand the computer is in a factory reset condition right now) I connect the Bitcoin Core hard drive to that computer as usual and run the wallet. It starts running as brand new (inquires if the program is being run for the first time and offers to choose where to store the loaded data, starts to catch up from the beginning). No transactions reflected. No addresses stored. I don't know how to properly open the wallet.dat. I run a Litecoin Core from same external hard drive. Also shows the window as if the program run for the first time. I set the directory to the same folder it used to be (within the litecoin wallet on the same external hard drive). Happy ending, wallet catches up, all funds there. I haven't let the Bitcoin Core catch up yet. Should I? All advice greatly appreciated, I am still in the middle of my education. Here is a case that I found to be closest to mine. Except there isn't a reason why my wallet.dat would be reset (because the wallet lived on an external hard drive, not connected to computer). https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355500.0Bitcoin Client Software and Version Number: Bitcoin Core 0.15.0.1 Operating System: Windows 10 System Hardware Specs: Description of Problem: See below Any Related Addresses: Any Related Transaction IDs: Screenshot of the problem: not available Log Files from the Bitcoin Client: |
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