Peeps, new to the site so go easy on me. I have been following Halong since they announced the 16T last year. I have a fleet of S9s and of course want in on the 16T. If the hype is true then it is a superior piece of hardware. 3 times on the waiting list and 3 times I let go of the opportunity for the reasons mentioned in this thread. If you try to buy an S9 which by the way is close to becoming unprofitable as there was another huge jump on the difficulty last night, they don't last but 10 minutes before they are sold out. In the meantime, for the first time ever there is no waiting list and you can go straight into the Halong site and order for the last 3 days now. I have friends paying from $4K - $5K for an S9 that is no longer profitable unless the Bitcoin price shoots up. I believe it will but it may never come back. So what to do. I am getting into the GPU rig business now as there are no alternatives at the moment. Keep your eyes peeled for Japan's GMO Internet company coming out with PCIe hashing cards that you can stack on a motherboard without risers or with. They will have 2 versions an 8THS and 10THS. They will start shipping Q1 2019. Long time away so if in deed Halong delivers which it seems like they are not then I will buy 20 after I see a review from a respected you-tuber in the crypto space. If not, all my money is going to building really powerful 1080ti GPU rigs and grow the portfolio until GMO starts to deliver. Oh, and they are very real with no restrictions as Bitcoin has been accepted widely in Japan and it is now one of the several forms of payment allowed by law. Good luck peeps and happy mining.