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1  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BitMaximum.io - More privacy during Bitcoin exchange / Coin mixer on: May 01, 2019, 08:27:32 AM
And what is a problem in cloudflare? It is rather famous DDoS protection. Many sites use it. Or it will be better not to have DDoS protection at all?

In this post, everything is very clearly written: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1707954.msg17324396#msg17324396
2  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: 📣📣📣 [ANN] 👉 BESTMIXER.IO 👈 THE FUTURE OF BITCOIN MIXING! TECHNOLOGY IS HERE on: April 22, 2019, 06:54:45 AM
TryNinja and nowyouaresee  thanks so much for your help.

Hi all others thanks too. Finally I think the point everyone is still missing was I did  NOT know what the url was for checking my order. The youtube video does not show it too. Bestmixer thanks but any newbie like me who is not an expert like the rest of you guys will miss this where to check their order number. I can say this much whether it falls on deaf ears or not - why doesn't bestmixer make the system idiot proof so that it's impossible for me to proceed WITHOUT downloading the guarantee? Very simple coding surely.

So do this :

1 popping up a disclaimer to say "if you DONT download it then support will be unable to help you", which is essentially what happened to me  (until I displayed my order details to the world)

2 also put some wording VERY clearly to say "please note your order number url so you can track it's progress without which you cannot check it"

BestMixer and all else much appreciated a donation coming you way and yes I am an idiot for not downloading it. Us "users" general are

Thanks again all



The fact is that the letter of guarantee contains all the information about your order, including the URL of your order.
I hope you will not have problems due to the fact that I placed here a link to your order.

P.S. already removed Smiley
3  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: 📣📣📣 [ANN] 👉 BESTMIXER.IO 👈 THE FUTURE OF BITCOIN MIXING! TECHNOLOGY IS HERE on: April 21, 2019, 05:13:29 PM
I am not asking for proof that it will arrive but am qsimply asking  how long it will be before it arrives. That all I need to know. This was the first time using this service for myself and our business requires a daily capacity of approx 100 coins a day so really am kindly asking for some  assistance and someone to simply answer my question as to how long it will be ie the time delay set
The maximum delay time someone can set on BestMixer is 72h (3 days), but I don't think you would select this and forget about it...?

There is no way to completely prove you sent the coins and should receive them without the Letter of Guarantee. So, if they are scamming you, there is no way to guarantee that you really used their service and not a phishing website.

P.S: I'm not saying they scammed you. I'm saying that IF they ever scam you (today or in the future), you need to save the Letter of Guarantee.

Lesson learned but what now?

This is my screenshot proving that I performed a tx. I wasn't on phishing sire for sure - that much I do know

Here is the screen shot of it

https://m.imgur.com/a/yeh7m50

You can even see the screen has confirmed the output

What to do now?



You have already disclosed information about your order))
Do you have a number, why do you need help?
I just substituted your order number on the site URL:  Wink

P.S. Now your non-anonymous coins lol  Shocked Shocked Shocked
4  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: 📣📣📣 [ANN] 👉 BESTMIXER.IO 👈 THE FUTURE OF BITCOIN MIXING! TECHNOLOGY IS HERE on: April 21, 2019, 04:47:07 PM
Have completed mixing about 3 days ago using bestmixer for the first time and sent my coins to the wallet specified by bestmixer.io however the coins still haven't arrived  at the destination address. I have asked support for information on the time delay set but they have so far been very unhelpful and instead of answering my questions have referred me to a generic youtube video of how the service works which is not helping at all.

I simply need to know for my order number when  the coins are due. Why is support not helping me? I have sent them screenshot of the complete tx via their support but no one is helping. Can someone assist?

I asked for a screenshot of communication with customer support, because You said that they do not answer and do not help you with your question, which sounds strange when it comes to the best mixer.
As I said before, I personally have never had any problems with this service.
5  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitcoins DJ | Bitcoin Mixer on: April 21, 2019, 03:03:44 PM
Something gets too much mixers, is such a profitable business?
6  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: 📣📣📣 [ANN] 👉 BESTMIXER.IO 👈 THE FUTURE OF BITCOIN MIXING! TECHNOLOGY IS HERE on: April 21, 2019, 02:35:24 PM
I am not asking for proof that it will arrive but am qsimply asking  how long it will be before it arrives. That all I need to know. This was the first time using this service for myself and our business requires a daily capacity of approx 100 coins a day so really am kindly asking for some  assistance and someone to simply answer my question as to how long it will be ie the time delay set

You can also provide us with screenshots of your correspondence with customer support, otherwise it looks a bit strange.
I used to contact customer support and usually the response time takes no more than a couple of hours.
7  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bestmixer or chipmixer? on: April 15, 2019, 07:53:28 PM
1. I will ask you again, why use a mixer?
2. I think talking with you is something useless, because you participate in the company signatures of chipmixer and you get paid for each message, which means you are not objective in your opinion.
3. If your statement that bestmixer buys coins on the stock exchange is true, then this is great news.
1. To break a link between funds/transfers.

2. I'm just correcting you on the lies you're spreading.

3. Is it though? That means that "the stockexchange" knows exactly/could know exactly which coins are from Bestmixer, and knows exactly where they are going.
Law enforcement could easily get that information, and voila, there goes everything you've been paying such premiums for. (And all the attempts at obfuscating the source (the user who initiated the transfer) of the funds, not to mention.)

That's another third-party you need to blindly trust. (While they (the exchange) doesn't/don't have any incentive NOT to cooperate, etc.)

That's just how i see it though. I'd love to know why and how you think this is "great".

How can the exchange understand that the funds came from the mixer? Your statement is a lie!
What is the advantage of getting coins from the exchange? Huge volumes on exchanges, coins are mixed there better than in any mixer!
Thus, the exchange itself is a mixer, only on a large scale.
Now, having this website http://chipstatdethbuwk.onion/, any service can mark a transaction that has been sent from chipmixer as suspicious.
It seems to me that soon there will be an official ban from the state bodies on the use of such services.
What will you say then?

I repeat once again - this is bad when someone knows that your funds came from the mixer.
This is just my subjective opinion.
8  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bestmixer or chipmixer? on: April 15, 2019, 04:35:49 PM

I got the impression that you are intoxicated by the service in which you participate in a signature company.
I mean, everyone can find out that you received coins from a chipmixer and just hang a suspicion flag on your funds.
Imagine that you are an anonymous alcoholic)) And here you understand that anyone can easily find out this information))
Then from this equation you need to throw out the word "anonymous" is not it?
And so you're assuming that everyone who uses Chipmixer is an "alcoholic".  That's quite the assumption to make.
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And here you understand that anyone can easily find out this information
Assuming something =/= correlate with reality.
The only way someone can "find anything out" is by assuming that everyone who uses Chipmixer is (in your case) an "alcoholic". logic and law simply don't work that way.


http://chipstatdethbuwk.onion/

What is the purpose of using a mixer?


You tell me. It's unclear to me what exactly you use a mixer for.

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Naturally, I do not want anyone to know that I used a mixer.
Unfortunately, chipmixer does not give me such confidence.
No, You'd rather pay a 5% flat-fee, and trust that Bestmixer.io actually gives you coins out of their "Private-Investor" pool (which has got to run out sooner or later?), for what reason exactly? You're afraid of being labeled/assumed as an "Alcoholic" (?) I mean... Be my guest.

Again, you're trusting their word that these coins won't be able to be traced back to their mixer, or any of their operations, but that just seems very vague to me. Coins are always "Traceable" (up to a degree).
((I wouldn't be surprised of most of these "Investor" coins are bought on a KYC exchange..?))

Anyhow, if you place that much trust in Bestmixer.io to leave absolutely no trace on your coins, for whatever reason you might have, i'm not stopping you from using them.
Just don't spout unclear nonsense about your competitors for whatever reason you have, without any real evidence to back it up.

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Then from this equation you need to throw out the word "anonymous" is not it?
Why? enlighten me on how exactly Chipmixer deanonymizes it's userbase?


1. I will ask you again, why use a mixer?
2. I think talking with you is something useless, because you participate in the company signatures of chipmixer and you get paid for each message, which means you are not objective in your opinion.
3. If your statement that bestmixer buys coins on the stock exchange is true, then this is great news.
9  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bestmixer or chipmixer? on: April 15, 2019, 12:36:58 PM
You base your statements on conjectures.
Although in the case of chipmixer, we see simple evidence that their entire system works against their customers.

Quoting a previous post from this same thread:
I just had a look and it doesn't appear to make any link between funds coming out of ChipMixer to funds going into ChipMixer so it seems to show that ChipMixer works.

I got the impression that you are intoxicated by the service in which you participate in a signature company.
I mean, everyone can find out that you received coins from a chipmixer and just hang a suspicion flag on your funds.
Imagine that you are an anonymous alcoholic)) And here you understand that anyone can easily find out this information))
Then from this equation you need to throw out the word "anonymous" is not it?
10  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bestmixer or chipmixer? on: April 15, 2019, 11:22:45 AM
You say that it is more profitable to use chipmixer, while all his transactions are easy to track down!
I'd rather pay 50% commission to bestmixer, but no one would know that I got the money from the mixer!
That’s funny for you to say after this post: Breaking Mixing Services

Quoting it:
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I found some trivial bugs (timing attacks, leakages, xss, ...) through which nearly all relevant centralized bitcoin mixing services could be broken. Based on outgoing mixing transactions (transactions sent by the mixer) I was able to identify the correct incoming transactions sent by customers (vice versa). [...]

[...] In my thesis, I attacked coinmixer.se (at the time of writing it was the biggest centralized mixing service), however - except chipmixer.com1 - every other centralized mixing service I checked could be broken in a similar fashion.

While the author doesn’t explicitly quotes BestMixer’s name, it is clear that BestMixer works exactly as the other traditional mixers (except that they charge huge fees for some “extra privacy” methods that no one can confirm if it works or if it even does anything at all).

You base your statements on conjectures.
Although in the case of chipmixer, we see simple evidence that their entire system works against their customers.
11  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bestmixer or chipmixer? on: April 15, 2019, 11:19:54 AM
You say that it is more profitable to use chipmixer, while all his transactions are easy to track down!
I'd rather pay 50% commission to bestmixer, but no one would know that I got the money from the mixer!
There is no proof of either one of those statements that you're making.

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You say that it is more profitable to use chipmixer, while all his transactions are easy to track down!
Please, show me proof that you can link a deposit adress of Chipmixer to an output accurately, otherwise, you're spouting nonsense.

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I'd rather pay 50% commission to bestmixer, but no one would know that I got the money from the mixer!
There is no proof that Bestmixer actually hides/conceals *every* trace of it's internal mixing that's leading to the output you're receiving. of course it would be impossible to prove a negative, but i don't think anyone has extensively looked into this, or researched it.
(And we all know what happend to dozens of mixers in the past who said similar things.. (Not only were transactions able to be traced back to the mixer, they could accurately be traced back to the user who initiated the transfer.))

Also, what exactly would be the added benefit of someone not knowing your money came from a/"the" mixer? You're afraid of being labeled as what exactly?

http://chipstatdethbuwk.onion/

What is the purpose of using a mixer?
Naturally, I do not want anyone to know that I used a mixer.
Unfortunately, chipmixer does not give me such confidence.
12  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bestmixer or chipmixer? on: April 14, 2019, 06:08:39 PM
People compare fees but, lol seriously? Is it that need to be compared? Are people looking to save a buck with the risk to give up their privacy?
Privacy, Hello! Isn't it what is most important? Yes right? Now I would suggest making some searches because if you think all mixers work "great" I can assure that it's not the case.

I think it's a fair thing to do when Bestmixer's fees range from 1% (but usually start at 2.5% by default) and go up to 5% for their Gamma pool, with no proof that it actually improves privacy.
Meanwhile Chipmixer offers 0% fees, and the same level of privacy for all of their clients..?

Almost forgot about their fees per adress and tx fees;
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Code:
+ 0.00029430 BTC for each receiving address 
Recommended transaction fee: 0.00133347 BTC per kilobyte

Which means that if i were to mix 0.001, i'd pay a whopping 32% in fees. (v ≈≈≈0% w/ chipmixer, if i were to accelerate a low byte tx that is obviously..)



You say that it is more profitable to use chipmixer, while all his transactions are easy to track down!
I'd rather pay 50% commission to bestmixer, but no one would know that I got the money from the mixer!
13  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: 📣📣📣 [ANN] 👉 BESTMIXER.IO 👈 THE FUTURE OF BITCOIN MIXING! TECHNOLOGY IS HERE on: February 04, 2019, 10:11:04 AM
why do you have a red trust
You can read them in his trust page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1721098

Basically, people think he is untrustworthy because he is “Spreading lies about Wasabi wallet (and CoinJoin) to make their own centralized mixer look superior, causing potential customers being intentionally mislead“;

P.S: The above was taken directly from the neg trust feedback of one of the users.

Doesn't it seem strange to anyone that all the negative reviews were written in one day?
It seems that these guys did it by agreeing among themselves.

Personally, my opinion
14  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BitMaximum.io - More privacy during Bitcoin exchange / Coin mixer on: July 29, 2018, 03:25:02 PM
This is the most incompetent promotion of the resource that I saw!
Such advertisers turn the respected forum into garbage!
It's just unbearable to read! Angry
15  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] CoinMixer.se - Bitcoin Mixing Service on: July 20, 2018, 09:16:06 AM
i sended btc to you yesterday, i have registration certificate, but i lost connexion just when i have click done to confirm my participation.
Even with permanent link i cant acces to my participate, and nothing arrived...
Please check - my participation ID is 348395

I am very surprised at this irresponsibility on the part of the user.
In ordinary life, you do not give money to the first person on your way.
Why are you so unconcerned about your bitcoins?
Every respectful project has a thread on this forum, I encourage everyone before using this or that service, first look in the project branch, and then send money.
16  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 2018 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites on: June 28, 2018, 08:16:39 PM
I will check about smartmixer to be sure because I see the users who complained are users with 2 posts or coming back after almost 5 years of inactivity in the topic link you posted.

As for Pay shield I haven't heard lately so I don't know but I will search to see how it's going and remove it it if needed

Thanks guys
At least in their profile it is clear that they were on the network June 21, 2018, 02:57:09 PM, but did not bother to respond to users who accuse them of fraud.
At least you could indicate in your list that they do not respond to messages on the forum.
In general, silence is a sign of agreement. Those. if they do not refute the charges, then they agree.
17  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: 📣📣📣 [ANN] 👉 BESTMIXER.IO 👈 THE FUTURE OF CRYPTO MIXING! TECHNOLOGY IS HERE. on: June 28, 2018, 08:02:49 PM

Dear Friends,

how do you feel about such news?
https://news.bitcoin.com/crypto-exchanges-payment-and-wallet-firms-join-eu-police-to-fight-privacy/

We would like to ask you the same question the author of this article raises on Bitcoin.com:
'Should the privacy of all crypto exchange and wallet users gained through coin mixers be sacrificed to fight money laundering?'

Waiting for your comments,
BestMixer Team



This is a very interesting topic for discussion.
The article says that they want to fight money laundering.
But, as we know, crypto currencies in most countries are not recognized as money (yet).
Naturally, state authorities want to control everything, and crypto-currencies for them, like a red rag for a bull.
Let's be honest, the word anonymity for government agencies is already a crime.
My opinion - this confrontation will never end. Many people tend to be anonymous in the crypto community and this is their right!
Answering the main question I will say NO. All users should not sacrifice their anonymity for criminals.

Sorry for my English...
18  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 2018 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites on: June 21, 2018, 03:36:35 PM
Could you please correct your list?
The fact is that one of the services, namely SmartMix.io was charged with a scam March 23, 2018.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815450.msg32960872#msg32960872
After that, several more users confirmed that they had lost coins.
To date, the SmartMix.io did not make any reply messages, which indicates that the service most likely ceased to exist.
19  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: 📣📣📣 [ANN] 👉 BESTMIXER.IO 👈 THE FUTURE OF CRYPTO MIXING! TECHNOLOGY IS HERE. on: June 21, 2018, 03:19:15 PM
Cool! Keep it up Smiley Smiley Smiley
20  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: ✰ [ANN] BITMIXCOIN.IO ✰ High Volume Bitcoin Mixer ✰ SCAM PROTECTION/SUPERLIST on: June 18, 2018, 03:26:36 PM
We will solve everything with the user, we are not going anywhere, the latter of guarantee easily can be manipulated however if we made a mistake we will solve this issue with the customer.

User "tobericher" sent you coins 9th of June 2018. And did you deign to answer after 9 days ?!
For nine days, a person who lost 16 bitcoins could simply go insane.

My opinion is that you have lost the trust of your customers, and it will be very difficult to bring it back.
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