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1  Other / Politics & Society / Re: There is no such thing as poverty, folks. on: June 15, 2011, 03:00:23 AM
To those who argue an organism is obligated to more than what he is born with is only advocating slavery: to eventually rid of the organism's own ability to care for himself and make it beg to a supposed benefactor who he could not supposedly live without, even if said benefactor isn't even willing to serve his supposed beneficiary, only for all to be shot and left to rot in a ditch because neither met the whims of their masters.

While I agree with your post, I think the rotting in a ditch is a bit dramatic.  Where do the guns come in?  The government isn't actually going to shoot you (at least in the US) if you don't pay taxes.
If you refuse to submit to their audits and their imprisonment, they will inevitably kill you.

Ah, well yes.  If I fight back I suppose I might end up with a bullet in my head.
2  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your ideological evolution. on: June 14, 2011, 07:20:23 PM
I started getting into online politics when I was 12 years old. The forum I was one was mainly American-progressive and my views tended to lean towards less government-involvement in economics. I could certainly see the terrible inefficiency in government projects, so that's where I took my stance: The Republican Party. I saw the Republicans tended to take this economic-conservative stance but their social-views turned me off. They tend to dictate what a man can put into his body and whom he can marry. I eventually grew an even greater disdain for the support of war and American imperialism.

I discovered the Austrian and libertarian schools; and my stance in the end was no violence against the man's right to his own life. I started out very limited with the Minarchist point-of-view but eventually learned it had no chance of sustaining, after seeing how our government is wiping its ass with the constitution. : \

So, I am open to anything that doesn't advocate slavery to achieve its goals.

Yourself?

I read The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand when I was 15, followed by Atlas Shrugged later that year.  IT really opened my eyes.  I still somewhat cling to the Minarchist point of view, mainly because I think that we will have to deal with non-Minarchist nations and therefore need foreign communications and defense.  But I support the Libertarian viewpoints for the most part.  If only we could actually get a fair fight between more than two political parties in the US...
3  Other / Politics & Society / Re: There is no such thing as poverty, folks. on: June 14, 2011, 06:52:39 PM
To those who argue an organism is obligated to more than what he is born with is only advocating slavery: to eventually rid of the organism's own ability to care for himself and make it beg to a supposed benefactor who he could not supposedly live without, even if said benefactor isn't even willing to serve his supposed beneficiary, only for all to be shot and left to rot in a ditch because neither met the whims of their masters.

While I agree with your post, I think the rotting in a ditch is a bit dramatic.  Where do the guns come in?  The government isn't actually going to shoot you (at least in the US) if you don't pay taxes.
4  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Best rig to start with? 2x5830? on: June 06, 2011, 02:55:40 AM
CPUs are not cost effective at all, stick with GPUs.
5  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Official DiabloMiner GPU Miner Thread (now with Long Poll and BFI_INT support) on: June 04, 2011, 10:17:28 PM
Each GPU uses 3 queues in three different threads and are setup in a way that can never cause this.

If you do -D 2, only Barts #2 should have a load.

Also for dual-head on one card but not the other, I'd carefully edit the redundant screen definitions out of xorg.conf after running that second command.

Okay, sorry to keep bothering you like this, but I'd like to figure this out.  After a night of mining, here are some stats:
Command:
Code:
./DiabloMiner-Linux.sh --url http://user.worker:pass@mining.bitcoin.cz:8332/ -v 19 -w 192 -D 1,2
Output:
Code:
6/4/11 1:55:59 PM] Started
[6/4/11 1:55:59 PM] Connecting to: http://mining.bitcoin.cz:8332/
[6/4/11 1:56:00 PM] Using AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP-SDK-v2.4 (595.10)
[6/4/11 1:56:03 PM] BFI_INT patching enabled, disabling hardware checking
[6/4/11 1:56:03 PM] Added Barts (#1) (12 CU, local work size of 192)
[6/4/11 1:56:09 PM] BFI_INT patching enabled, disabling hardware checking
[6/4/11 1:56:09 PM] Added Barts (#2) (12 CU, local work size of 192)
[6/4/11 1:56:19 PM] Block 1 found on Barts (#1)
[6/4/11 1:56:52 PM] Block 2 found on Barts (#2)
[6/4/11 1:57:05 PM] Block 3 found on Barts (#2)
[6/4/11 1:58:04 PM] Block 4 found on Barts (#2)
[6/4/11 1:58:16 PM] Block 5 found on Barts (#2)
[6/4/11 1:58:59 PM] Block 6 found on Barts (#1)
[6/4/11 2:00:21 PM] Block 7 found on Barts (#1)
226765/231103 khash/sec
aticonfig --odgc --adapter=all
Code:
Adapter 0 - AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series 
                            Core (MHz)    Memory (MHz)
           Current Clocks :    900           1000
             Current Peak :    900           1000
  Configurable Peak Range : [600-1000]     [1000-1250]
                 GPU load :    99%

Adapter 1 - AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
                            Core (MHz)    Memory (MHz)
           Current Clocks :    300           300
             Current Peak :    900           1000
  Configurable Peak Range : [600-1000]     [1000-1250]
                 GPU load :    0%
aticonfig --odgt --adapter=all
Code:
Adapter 0 - AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series 
            Sensor 0: Temperature - 82.00 C

Adapter 1 - AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
            Sensor 0: Temperature - 52.00 C

With one configuration last night I actually saw the meter go up to 460, but I can't remember what I did.  My xorg.conf is at https://gist.github.com/1008220 to show how these cards are set up. I would really appreciate it if anyone could come up with an explanation for what is going on.  Thanks in advance. 

Woah, that xorg.conf doesn't look right. Without -D, does it list, say, 4 Barts?
It lists 3 Barts.  I reran aticonfig --initial=dual-head --adapter=all -f  again and this time I didn't change anything.  Now it works, and I am getting about 460.  I seems that it must have a screen for each card or else neither aticonfig or the miner can see it.  Here is my current configuration if anyone is interested:  https://gist.github.com/1008416  Thanks for all of your help, DiabloD3.
6  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Official DiabloMiner GPU Miner Thread (now with Long Poll and BFI_INT support) on: June 04, 2011, 07:12:27 PM
Each GPU uses 3 queues in three different threads and are setup in a way that can never cause this.

If you do -D 2, only Barts #2 should have a load.

Also for dual-head on one card but not the other, I'd carefully edit the redundant screen definitions out of xorg.conf after running that second command.

Okay, sorry to keep bothering you like this, but I'd like to figure this out.  After a night of mining, here are some stats:
Command:
Code:
./DiabloMiner-Linux.sh --url http://user.worker:pass@mining.bitcoin.cz:8332/ -v 19 -w 192 -D 1,2
Output:
Code:
6/4/11 1:55:59 PM] Started
[6/4/11 1:55:59 PM] Connecting to: http://mining.bitcoin.cz:8332/
[6/4/11 1:56:00 PM] Using AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP-SDK-v2.4 (595.10)
[6/4/11 1:56:03 PM] BFI_INT patching enabled, disabling hardware checking
[6/4/11 1:56:03 PM] Added Barts (#1) (12 CU, local work size of 192)
[6/4/11 1:56:09 PM] BFI_INT patching enabled, disabling hardware checking
[6/4/11 1:56:09 PM] Added Barts (#2) (12 CU, local work size of 192)
[6/4/11 1:56:19 PM] Block 1 found on Barts (#1)
[6/4/11 1:56:52 PM] Block 2 found on Barts (#2)
[6/4/11 1:57:05 PM] Block 3 found on Barts (#2)
[6/4/11 1:58:04 PM] Block 4 found on Barts (#2)
[6/4/11 1:58:16 PM] Block 5 found on Barts (#2)
[6/4/11 1:58:59 PM] Block 6 found on Barts (#1)
[6/4/11 2:00:21 PM] Block 7 found on Barts (#1)
226765/231103 khash/sec
aticonfig --odgc --adapter=all
Code:
Adapter 0 - AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series 
                            Core (MHz)    Memory (MHz)
           Current Clocks :    900           1000
             Current Peak :    900           1000
  Configurable Peak Range : [600-1000]     [1000-1250]
                 GPU load :    99%

Adapter 1 - AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
                            Core (MHz)    Memory (MHz)
           Current Clocks :    300           300
             Current Peak :    900           1000
  Configurable Peak Range : [600-1000]     [1000-1250]
                 GPU load :    0%
aticonfig --odgt --adapter=all
Code:
Adapter 0 - AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series 
            Sensor 0: Temperature - 82.00 C

Adapter 1 - AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
            Sensor 0: Temperature - 52.00 C

With one configuration last night I actually saw the meter go up to 460, but I can't remember what I did.  My xorg.conf is at https://gist.github.com/1008220 to show how these cards are set up. I would really appreciate it if anyone could come up with an explanation for what is going on.  Thanks in advance. 
7  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Official DiabloMiner GPU Miner Thread (now with Long Poll and BFI_INT support) on: June 04, 2011, 08:09:46 AM
Code:
[6/3/11 6:49:05 PM] Block 10 found on Barts (#2)
[6/3/11 6:49:09 PM] Block 11 found on Barts (#1)
[6/3/11 6:49:29 PM] Block 12 found on Barts (#2)
[6/3/11 6:49:40 PM] Block 13 found on Barts (#1)
[6/3/11 6:49:44 PM] Block 14 found on Barts (#2)
[6/3/11 6:50:25 PM] Block 15 found on Barts (#2)
[6/3/11 6:50:43 PM] Block 16 found on Barts (#2)
[6/3/11 6:50:57 PM] Block 17 found on Barts (#1)
So, if DM is outputting stuff like this, then are the blocks defiantly being found by the cards that are in parentheses?  What I mean is that Barts (#2) doesn't seem to be accessible by certain aticonfig options, and my hash rate seems to be that of a single GPU.  Is it possible that all blocks are being completed by Barts #1 but being labeled otherwise?

Nope. Sure you have the right speed in mind? A 6870 should be doing somewhere around 270 or so at stock speeds.

I have two 6850s and I'm getting 230 overclocked (to a core clock of 900).  I can't use aticonfig to set any setting for Barts #2, yet DM says it is finding blocks, so I'm confused if it is contributing to the hash meter or not.

230 sounds closer to a single 6850.

No, it can't accidentally label blocks coming from the wrong device. It is contributing to the hash meter.

You're on Linux, so did you forget to turn off Crossfire? You need to run sudo aticonfig --initial --adapter=all -f and then restart X.

Do you know how I would run aticonfig to set up both of these cards with one of them having a dual head setup?
Code:
sudo aticonfig --initial=dual-head 
allows me to boot, but
Code:
sudo aticonfig --initial=dual-head --adapter=all -f

seems to generate a dual head setup for both cars that screws everything up.  What is required for the miner to use a card? Does it just need a device section in xorg.conf, or does it need to be connected to a screen?

EDIT: Okay, now (after some careful editing of xorg.conf) aticonfig shows that Barts #1 is at a GPU load of 99% while Barts #2 of 0%.  Other stats, such as temperature are confirming this.  While I know there is something wrong with my setup, are you sure there isn't a bug in the miner?  It still reports the blocks being solved by both cards.
EDIT2: If I run DM with -D 2, aticonfig still says all of the load and temp increase is on Barts #1.  Also, Crossfire is disabled.
8  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Official DiabloMiner GPU Miner Thread (now with Long Poll and BFI_INT support) on: June 04, 2011, 12:59:05 AM
Code:
[6/3/11 6:49:05 PM] Block 10 found on Barts (#2)
[6/3/11 6:49:09 PM] Block 11 found on Barts (#1)
[6/3/11 6:49:29 PM] Block 12 found on Barts (#2)
[6/3/11 6:49:40 PM] Block 13 found on Barts (#1)
[6/3/11 6:49:44 PM] Block 14 found on Barts (#2)
[6/3/11 6:50:25 PM] Block 15 found on Barts (#2)
[6/3/11 6:50:43 PM] Block 16 found on Barts (#2)
[6/3/11 6:50:57 PM] Block 17 found on Barts (#1)
So, if DM is outputting stuff like this, then are the blocks defiantly being found by the cards that are in parentheses?  What I mean is that Barts (#2) doesn't seem to be accessible by certain aticonfig options, and my hash rate seems to be that of a single GPU.  Is it possible that all blocks are being completed by Barts #1 but being labeled otherwise?

Nope. Sure you have the right speed in mind? A 6870 should be doing somewhere around 270 or so at stock speeds.

I have two 6850s and I'm getting 230 overclocked (to a core clock of 900).  I can't use aticonfig to set any setting for Barts #2, yet DM says it is finding blocks, so I'm confused if it is contributing to the hash meter or not.
9  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Official DiabloMiner GPU Miner Thread (now with Long Poll and BFI_INT support) on: June 03, 2011, 11:58:20 PM
Code:
[6/3/11 6:49:05 PM] Block 10 found on Barts (#2)
[6/3/11 6:49:09 PM] Block 11 found on Barts (#1)
[6/3/11 6:49:29 PM] Block 12 found on Barts (#2)
[6/3/11 6:49:40 PM] Block 13 found on Barts (#1)
[6/3/11 6:49:44 PM] Block 14 found on Barts (#2)
[6/3/11 6:50:25 PM] Block 15 found on Barts (#2)
[6/3/11 6:50:43 PM] Block 16 found on Barts (#2)
[6/3/11 6:50:57 PM] Block 17 found on Barts (#1)
So, if DM is outputting stuff like this, then are the blocks defiantly being found by the cards that are in parentheses?  What I mean is that Barts (#2) doesn't seem to be accessible by certain aticonfig options, and my hash rate seems to be that of a single GPU.  Is it possible that all blocks are being completed by Barts #1 but being labeled otherwise?
10  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: 2nd 6870 video card not working in Linux on: June 03, 2011, 08:15:39 PM
I'm using 2 6850s but am having the same issue.  Last night DiabloMiner seemed to see them both, but no dice today.  I also can't get sensor readings on the 2nd card.
11  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Official DiabloMiner GPU Miner Thread (now with Long Poll and BFI_INT support) on: June 03, 2011, 08:19:25 AM
I've been monitoring Bitcoin for a few months and finally decided to join in on the pooled mining.  After switching to the catalyst drivers (ugh), and installing OpenCL, I finally got DiabloMiner up and running.  I am currently using the following script to run it:
Code:
./DiabloMiner-Linux.sh --url http://user.worker:password@mining.bitcoin.cz:8332/ -v 2 -w 128 -D 1,2

My system contains 2 Radeon HD6850s connected by CrossFire. The hash meter is giving me around 190,000 khash/sec, which sounds really low compared to what I've seen around the forums.  I'm currently playing with the -f settings, but I've only gotten it up to about 200,000 (and it makes the computer completely unusable).  Am I doing something completly wrong or should this rate be expected?
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