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1  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page*** on: January 03, 2014, 09:31:54 AM
it's $34/Ghs today.   More than a year to recover your cost at current the BTC price.


is it actually 32$ GHS?

Price is currently 0.042/GH which is about $32.50....

I have to be missing something here, people are buying 1GH/S for $32.50?
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Free profit/loss portfolio manager for Bitcoins and all other digital currencies on: December 30, 2013, 05:19:48 PM
The BTC price if off on the site... way off...   how often is this updated?
3  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page*** on: December 26, 2013, 06:28:31 PM
CEX needs to put some limits on the day trading aspect of the site.   

The idea of instantly buying GHS is a great one, but its turned into a day trading site that might as well be selling potatoes because the price of GHS is not in inline with any profits that can be made by mining.   

The only way to profit is to day trade GHS.  Day traders and the elephants in the room are causing an artificial price and panics on the market.


Maybe requiring a hold all buys for X days would stabilize the price and bring many more buying into the market?



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It is not correct when you say "in cex price this is not the case"..

It's like there was an potato market where exactly same potatoes, would valued 10 times higher than same potato elsewhere.

In cex this is the case because of false data.

They market their potato as it is more valuable than others, but it is same rotting potato which looses price as everywhere else.

I consider this as a sophisticated fraud cause they present data not as it really is, and prices stay high cause there are many people to believe these lies.
Their built in calculator is on purpose mixing USD with BTC and on purpose ignoring difficulty.

4  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page*** on: December 26, 2013, 05:24:39 AM
Make that 2 people that made the cex.io mistake... got out just before the big crash last night, so not much of a loss over the past 2 weeks...

Once I discovered that the the price of GHS/BTC has fallen over 400% in 3 months, I bailed...   CEX really needs to put up a chart that longer that one month.  One month chart is misleading.

I have a feeling that CEX is the only one making $$..  I heard that they are dumping up the 5 THS daily into this market ?  Maybe someone can confirm?


The current price should be at .015, not 055.   At .015 there is room for a profit.

 



You are one of the few people to have gone into CEX.IO and admitted their mistake.

If you read earlier in this thread you will see that you have said pretty much all that I have.

The price of GHS trends downwards all the time. Any long-term position will be a losing one.

There is no chance of being a successful long-term trader of GHS in a skewed market where the price is always trending downwards.

Any attempt at guessing a temporary move upwards would be gambling not trading.

And finally, yes an instrument to short GHS would be ideal. But anyone would be a fool to sell one to us. Nobody would sell an option or a futures contract on a commodity whose price at some forward date will be lower than it is now with probability 1.0

The only people talking up GHS on CEX.IO are people with affiliate links to CEX.IO at the bottom of their signature.

Now, you and I will see the idiots' replies.

when i found cex i immediately transferred funds there and luckily haven't bought anything, after some reading I came to conclusion cex.io is loose loose situation, and took my money out

if i buy ghs from cex there are two possible outcomes:
1. if i wait long enough for it to mine something, i will have btc it mined but will loose more on its value - this will never roi
2. to earn only option is to be lucky enough to catch the correction - buy and sell quickly cause long term price will definitely drop. this is "trading"/gambling and for this there are better places

price of ghs will always go down cause it mines less meaning its value is dropping

in cex built in calculator they mix usd with btc and ignore difficuly thats why its confusing

too bad i can't do short on ghs this would be a winner Grin
5  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Warning - investing in cloud mining GHS with cex.io will lose money on: December 26, 2013, 05:02:45 AM
I calculate about the same results...    0.0175 BTC/GHS or lower to make $$.   I can only assume that everyone there is holding on hoping for more suckers to enter the market.

I have yet to understand how CEX adds GHS to the market....   I'm guessing they drop it in for a guaranteed profit?

Something smells funny with CEX.IO...

I have updated the calculations at the current difficulty. I used 0.068 btc per GHS and 650 US per btc which gave an initial investment of US44.2 the expected return considering reduction was US-33.15 (note i use the expert setting). This means if you spend 1 btc to buy ghs you will probably only ever mine 0.25 btc! To break even the price needs to be 0.0175 btc per GHS. This game of chicken holding GHS to trade is getting ridiculous.
6  Other / Beginners & Help / Mining Companies on: December 05, 2013, 08:57:07 AM
I see that companies are selling 80GH/s like AMT https://advancedminers.com for $1500 with a 3 week delivery time

http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/ calculates to a ROI in 21 days...

My newb question: 
     Why would a company that builds these boxes sell them when they can make more $$ mining than selling hardware?


How do I get my account upgraded here to post on other forums?


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