I lost nothing to gox, but what really pisses me off is all the wishy washy
horse feces we've been fed so far. Weasel words and total lack of any
credible explanation. And when and if the whole story is ever known
I have little faith that all our questions will be answered in the statements.
It will be some half baked drivel carefully concocted to placate the masses
with just enough technical explanation to look good on the surface yet
carefully leave no real information revealed. Just as it has been so far
so shall it continue to be.

The government is definitely Public Scum #1 and can't be trusted.
But I'm not really seeing that they did this. Mebbe so but I don't see it.
Let's not over conspiracy this thing. The trooth is prolly much simpler.

So it's an inside job, or it's an outside job.
1 or the other.

Incompetance/lost keys/gun to head - these would still be an inside job.
Getting hacked from the intrnet would be an outside job.
If the government walked in and kiped it all...that's an outside job
cause it didn't really originate from a person inside gox.

the only transaction malleability in this whole thing is how the story doesn't fit
and how the story has changed.

Occum's razor may apply in this situation.
Keep it simple. Keep it clean.
Gun to his head or lost keys.

keep it simple.

1 computer should be able to ping all your cubes.
if necessary...try to ping your cubes using a different computer.

go back and unfuck any changes you've made that did not solve the problem.

reduce the whole scenario to hardware minimums.
1 computer.
1 cube.
1 ethernet cable.
static address your computer appropriately.
Prove if you can ping the cube or not.
The correct answer is yes or no.

If you can't ping the cube then paste the output of ifconfig
so we can see what is going on.

grab a command line and type ipconfig
and paste the information here so I can see it.

turn off windows firewall.
If you reinstalled windows then windows firewall is on by default.

someone puts a gun to your head.
so you give them the keys.
then waffle around and make up bullshit in a poor attempt to cover it up.

A gun to his head is what makes the most sense to me.
That would make anyone hand over the keys.

Who would be behind the gun, though?
NSA?
The israelis ?
Yakuza?
Common tokyo street criminal?

No matter how bad the gox thing is.....
I don't want no goddamned BigBanking And Government licensing and bullshit
like the banking bailouts. Banks aren't supposed to lose the money. Yet they
have fucked it up a couple times now...back in 1929... and more recently with
the banking bailouts that happened. Fuck banks. Fuck the banking industry.

I just can't believe that some people would whore themselves off so cheaply
and sit there and clickfuck their mouse on a promise to make so
shittin' little btc.

1 Satoshi
2 Satoshi
3 Satoshi
4 ....


5 Satoshi
Crunching bits...
Give me many more...

What's the scope and magnitude of the situation?
Are you looking to spend a megabuck on bitcoin?
Or just a little to see what it's like?
You'll pay an additional 10% if you buy it from the website
you just mentioned. And if you're really charging it then
you will also pay credit card interest. That's looks like
you're down 20% to begin with right off the bat, assuming
a 10% interest rate on credit card.

But to answer your question....
Nope. I'm not in his thing to speculate. To buy low and sell high.
I'm in it to learn, have fun, explore the world of cryptobuckology and
to get ready for the death of the printed fiat. None of this is accomplished
by charging bitcoin on your credit card. Don't be duped by entities that
are looking to profit on your lack of experience. Store owners got rich
on the gold miners by selling them shovels at high prices.
BTC bought on a credit card will be the most expensive of all.
Mine thine own bitcoin.

Sounds worth a try. One pi using a pool and a solo pi miner.

You're right about the powered usb hub.
My pi that is doing dns and dhcp service for my homenet
needed external power.

My mavericks machine will be mining solo.
Only me and the NSA is going to know how
much coin I get/have. I'm not concerned about
how little or how long it takes when mining solo
cuz I'm in it for the adventure and fun and if I can
rake in a buck or 2 then all the better.

Kool..I've got 2 spare raspi 2nd generation sitting around.
I think I'll get them into the act. So those erupter sticks
work on a raspi without lots of hoops and gyrations?

What about horsepower. A raspi gets really slow when you
start doing things like webmin, VNC and whateverelse.
Makes me think it might not be able to really mine anything
with so little horsepower. Of course, I'd keep it at the commandline
and not waste cpu cycles on a gui. I could ssh in and check
on it's progress, right?

Maybe I've asked a dumb question because I misunderstand and all
btc clients are compiled C code and not just interpreted scripts?

So admins....just delete this thread if I'm being the accidental idiot
cuz I missed an understanding.

bfgminer or cgminer.... both of these are compiled miners, right?
I'm trying to stay away from a miner that is using an interpreted
language...for efficiency sake. I hate interpreted languages for
things like this.

Or maybe I really want to use the satoshi client?
Is that what I want?
I plan on using multibit for a wallet.

I'll be using a usb block erupter stick.
I'm perfectly at home with ./configure...make...make install.
I'll be mining on a mac under Mavericks and I have the OSX
developer tools installed.

So which client do I want? I'm just confused as to which
mining clients are compiled C code and which are interpreted.

Okay....so BTC is never "recycled" in any way when you sell the BTC.
What does it mean to be "on the block chain" ?
Thx gurus.