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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POW/POS | NIST5 | Super Rewards Bonanza on: February 23, 2018, 08:31:42 PM
ECA's volume is so low after coinsmarkets down. If you try to sell 25 million coin, it is about 1% of circulating supply, ECA's price will go to 1 satoshi. This means that selling coins at current price is not easy. Price is not fair. So ECA was dead.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POW/POS | NIST5 | Super Rewards Bonanza on: February 20, 2018, 07:56:31 PM
CM still has people's coins locked up?? Yikes.

Always take your coins off these exchanges, never trust them

this is an example of coinsmarkets communication just blaming people.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POW/POS | NIST5 | Super Rewards Bonanza on: February 20, 2018, 07:29:15 PM

Well, the claim that CM holds 20 Billion ECA is obvious bullshit. There might be 5 Billion, or even slightly more, on CM, but that's about it. Still difficult to predict what would happen IF, but this seems by now a rather unlikely event..

when wallets were on i remember i saw 20 billion on CM , if these coins are back and with not so many people hwo wants them , like last month hype , then normally the price goes down ... anyway on long term i think its possible in 2-3 years for eca to reach 1$

Well, the wallet is online, and it shows 24038150667.7   ECA, but under the total of "Monney supply" / that is the total monney supply as shown on the explorer, and not the coins on coinsmarkets.

on CM there are around 800 mil coin you can see it on the Explorer. Coinmarkets show the coin supply of the coin not how many coins are on the exchange, 20 bil was the coin circulating supply!

Well, I would like to know where you see the 800 mil on the Explorer - Which addresses do you see as CM adresses. (And of course your right that the 20 + bil is the total supply)

I did a longer analysis with the explorer, and did identify many addresses that I think are most likely on CM. The (not complete) list follow:

ERgSYfQ3xySNcZDwsVeyWW3XpfLAhj3fzS
EKg48DDngAt8H8cgc9apreZYravkkY5ffF
EWGUsCUp6gyA7D6UF7uKGUtjzgc8kjy1jt
EcRumbwBDmAWqtEQBaedfa6237qeR8ozxF
EQcUrxTpkmHAKo5zW4vYUtBaoTYRcNm5D2
EcYuKxiot16fYsaupaa5DEJCCTnZ2GSa7R
ESgBGb6nJpXduUaDysE9QR5k5BodwNuvhj
EXuAohjB386zH6Pc8jtAM9GH2yXpZNYY3a
EX2rkcCBMoZqVTno5e1ydXV8GSaGS82hVu
Eafi1je67LqkvQg7mYs8xRXg5iA4mA8dWN
ETQCNTgWig1PTWwxTyg8DLSUAU2AiY5Ssx
EPDT23J23sDNgUHcqrBdGgyooVGwi8c2D7
EdGZzQ3YpZzgfmLLKUmDuLgvx5unsm9gXC
EPHvv7UHLB9edKcxTs1zEdjRdDMruaoGP5
ES4s9JbPqqwnePwKbEQGK1iP8n8mUGfGpC
EfiS9bfCupxSjg8rT26LPSz1URSd3AtWwx
EcASuAvVLY3Pd33So2CqzatFnvGseLQZrG
EeGRDEaE9oxgss116aqXi54ycC2qeK652Y
EUG6jYe9qKCzYoC3UHdrrRYyCYh3P8Nf3t
ETaUXyXNuUuuuRULuKeXpMWzNdxSyzPsjT
EgLT8GbqZ7xSqy9LJZfCCNDTUWwJ1d7gua
ESB3AvJN9QBbRS4VZuAeAXCPAWPq34AoCW
EPhDjnsXoresHyYeRrdeQEDRLtiHd2KL7M
Ef4A6DtcW4QaKnxJpnDFVtZ4zDayYCdEjL

The total of ECA on those addresses amounts to almost 5 Billion. (I did a systematic check for all the top 50 addresses on the Richlist, and also added some smaller addresses that were created as change addresses trough payouts, and otherwise meet the pattern.

What all of those addresses have in common is that they were created late in december or the first 3 days of january, have received most coins from older big addresses (and usually the bulk from one address only), often had some outpayments before january 3th.
None of those accounts have any transactions between after January 5th and before January 13/14. But all of those accounts are staking very regularly ever since, and none have other transactions (beside stakes) after january 5th.

For the smaller accounts this might not be significant in itself, but accounts with more than 50 Mio coins usually stake daily if they are online. So while some of those addresses might actually not be on CM, I did no systematically check for ranks 51 - 100 of the Richlist,
and there will be many smaller accounts (mostly change addresses), that are on CM as well.

The fact that all this addresses are regularly staking, and that the CM website (on its old - or non https:// - addresses) shows wallets regularly online, doesn't say anything on itself about the likelyhood of CM coming back ever.
The official web address (https://coinsmarkets.com) is not reachable via cloudflare since days.

So - may be - the fact that we can only see the old servers that show no change at all (besides the amounts of coins on the online wallets beeing updated - and the occasional change in the header-text) could also be an indication that the old host just keeps the servers running,
but that nobody of the CM team is ever accessing them. (They might have disolved, the boss might have run without most of the coins, the owner might already be in jail or sufferd a stroke or heart attack and is now in hospital or dead..) - We just no nothing, but the only signs of "activity" - like additional lines in the header from "bear with us" to "few hours" to "last db issues" might as well be the work of a simple hacker..

We know nothing for certain, but if anyone from the team had access and wanted to save his business, he would have tried to communicate better - so, while we don't know what really happend, we can be pretty sure that no competent person is in charge.




Also peaople banned from ECA's telegram, discord and reddit pages beacuse of their opinions. Do you think this coin is decentralized?

While there is no clear indication of cooperation between the ECA-Team and Coinsmarkets, the attitude of the ECA-Team towards critics is at least disturbing. They are usually claiming that they are certain that CM will come back, and strike down so called "FUDers". If they could be certain, they would need to have a connection - what they deny.

But insisting on totally unfounded spreading of confidence / delusions is not helping at all. Creating confidence without base in facts is actually the usual modus operandi of scammers, - and it should be considered a serious crime.

These adresses doesn't belnog to coinsmarkets. You can't know what wallet adress coinsmarkets had two months ago. these claims just bullshits.

And here we see. noone critices ECA. they always find ways to defend themselves. this coin was dead after coinsmarkets down.

And noone try to explain that electraproject.org crashed at the same time with coinsmarkets down.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POW/POS | NIST5 | Super Rewards Bonanza on: February 20, 2018, 04:55:33 PM
When coinsmarkets crashed about two months ago, at the same night electraproject.org also crashed and not reached about a day. Anyone thinks there is a realtion between ECA and Coinsmarktes.

Also peaople banned from ECA's telegram, discord and reddit pages beacuse of their opinions. Do you think this coin is decentralized?
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ECA] Electra ⚡ | POW/POS | NIST5 | Super Rewards Bonanza on: February 20, 2018, 04:48:21 PM
on CM there are around 800 mil coin you can see it on the Explorer. Coinmarkets show the coin supply of the coin not how many coins are on the exchange, 20 bil was the coin circulating supply!

Coinsmarkets dows about two months ago. how do you trust yourself about CM already transffered all ECAs to another small wallets. Explain us. How do you know. You talk about now and wallets show now stituation not two months ago.
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