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I thought i'd share this here: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/gold-companies-rushing-bitcoin/2014/07/11I've no idea of the accuracy or legitimacy of the article, but if true, this is absolutely HUGE news - for all crypto's. I'm one of those individuals who believes Gold and Silver are real money - Crypto's are a very nice solution to a monetary system that is flawed, but crypto's are themselves flawed in the sense that their value isn't backed by anything. If we get crypto's backed by Gold and other real, tangible assets (You seriously can't get better then gold or silver, though) Then, well, these are very exciting times indeed. I've faith that Crypto's are a solution to the current monetary system we are enslaved by, but it needs something like Gold and Silver to gain the confidence and stability they deserve. Things are all gonna come down soon. It is best to have some physical assets (silver and gold) as well as internationally portable crypto. You are correct.Its the banking system that , if it doesn't collapse completely ,then it will have terrible problems. People are going to be desperate to get money out of the system before bail-ins. |
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I thought i'd share this here: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/gold-companies-rushing-bitcoin/2014/07/11I've no idea of the accuracy or legitimacy of the article, but if true, this is absolutely HUGE news - for all crypto's. I'm one of those individuals who believes Gold and Silver are real money - Crypto's are a very nice solution to a monetary system that is flawed, but crypto's are themselves flawed in the sense that their value isn't backed by anything. If we get crypto's backed by Gold and other real, tangible assets (You seriously can't get better then gold or silver, though) Then, well, these are very exciting times indeed. I've faith that Crypto's are a solution to the current monetary system we are enslaved by, but it needs something like Gold and Silver to gain the confidence and stability they deserve. this is Really Huge News! Gold is money for dudes riding on horses and living in houses made of stone and dirt. Bitcoin is money for people riding the information highway and living on the 16th floor in a city of millions. Crypto currency is to date the most innovative way of transacting. But its the special qualities of gold that has made it last thousands of years as real money. Use crypto currency , save in gold. |
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jesus no wonder the main thread is so nice and friendly... all the bitching is in here! :L i feel like iv walked into the wrong pub on the wrong side of town with the wrong skin color and the wrong clothes... gota get outa here before someone turns on me! :L :L
lol, yes, some serious hostility Ok, I have been reading the comments on our most unfortunate situation. Firstly,I consider myself VERY active at grass roots level promoting cryptocurrency and precious metals to people at various, but usually high positions in the Business world here in Veneto on a daily basis.Not every student of mine wanted to pay for NEM stakes but the ones that did have been talking to friends and relatives about what they are doing. They have been commenting on Bitcointalk although this is all new to them and their English is limited. I did not buy stakes for them. They started NXT accounts by themselves and paid me euros when I sent them coins. If I was trying to obtain stakes all for myself then I'm sure there are a number of ways to do it without being easily noticed. Whether we get stakes or not we will continue to do what we're doing.Some have already agreed to buy NEM when they become available. |
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To UF: I saw some of my clients on the refund list. These are people I know in my personal life and I recommended investing in NEM for them. I acted as a broker for them because they are not very knowledgeable about crypto or advanced in PC use. They have already paid me fiat for their stake and were patiently waiting for me to update them on the status of the coin. They are as follows: nateM7654 annT78 camaronloco mich38754 eylucu4531 michaelW8796i I had already talked to you prior to this to make sure it was ok to act as broker for other people who are not very aware of these forums/crypto coin scene. And yes I did create an account for each because that's how you stated I should go about investing for them. Here is your original response: Yes that should be the way because your friend represents the new account. So make a new account for him and reserve a stake from that account. You can send NXT from the same address as well (maximum 2 stake per address).
1 NEM share would have > 1 million NEM. So there are many to share. No need to buy a lot of stakes. Thanks for supporting NEM. Thank you for clearing this up. I will get to it as soon as possible. For the greedy it might be good for a while, but they will always lose out in the end. That's my philosophy and experience. I would give him one additional stake to divide between the six and refund the other five spots. 166,666 NEM (1M/6) each is still a lot. It's not fair, I had discussed this with UtopianFuture in order to avoid all of these problems. I did everything transparent to make sure that UF knew I wasn't a scammer, I was just helping other people in my life invest into NEM. Now I have to refund their money, lose their trust, and even lose money because I bought NXT at a higher price to buy into NEM. I still see no reply to my post from dev. I did all of this before I proceded to take people's investment, he assured me it was ok so I was paid fiat by these people. They get in touch with me almost weekly to keep them updated, now I have to tell them we are being called scammers and give them money + some of my money back. I have already been scammed out of BTC from other scam/fake coins. If this doesn't go through, I will stay away from cryptocoins until a real company develops a real working product. The whole point to crypto was to be decentralized money for the world, but with all the scams and fake accusations like NEM is doing, many people like me will back out and instead wait until a competent company with a real coin and devs shows up. This will inevitably cancel out the revolutionary idea behind cryptos. In my defense, what I replied to you in my PM is a principle that you can create an account for your friend but even then I did not encourage you to enroll many stakes. I did not approve any thing specific or knew how many account you plan to enroll. On the other hand, the central principle of NEM fundraising is participation and 2 months so far all of your friends have done nothing and they all stay 1 post accounts. Are they going to set up nodes ? are they going to contribute to the "spread the words" campaign ? These are the things we take into accounts when I put these accounts on the refunding list. I will see if I can accommodate 1 or -2 stakes so that your friend group can share and imo that's is enough given your friend level of contribution. To all people in refunding list, please step up and complain and we will deal with all complaints on a case by case basis. After several days or when 20 stakes allocated to the refunding list running out the discussion will be considered closed and the all later complaints will be entitled to refunding. Also please don't pm me, post here or in the stake complaint thread instead, we will deal with like a community. Talk over the issues, deal with it in a rational manner ---> Win Win. Regarding the refunding it is now officially open to everyone. I will try to collect all demands and make refunds every week (there is a column in the final list for that so the community can monitor). So far the none of NEM development fund in BTC address and NXT address has ever been used and it is not going to be used except to satisfying refunding request until NEM officially launch. Utopianfuture ,patmaster3 said to comment on the complaint thread. I have stepped up there !!!! |
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Hello Utopianfuture, I teach Business English to Businessmen/women in Northern Italy. I am a bit shall I say anti-establishment when teaching. I have introduced
my students to cryptocurrencies and the associated benefits. They have become enthusiastic about low-energy cryptos like NXT and NEM.
Obviously we are all dissapointed to be on a refund list because of connected transactions.When the NEM stakeholder opportunity arose, myself,my friend and
8 students and all our partners reserved a stake, 20 in total.
Because they are all very busy people and because of their limited English Language abilities it was much easier for them to open NXT accounts and for me to send some to them so that they could reserve their stakes in NEM. I was paid by them in FIAT euros.
At the time I thought it was ok to do this. We all hope to be taken back off the refund list.
The Others are, nembit8 ,stigodump ,smirnofdrinker ,eddyvce ,numbed ,VKNP60 ,greatlife ,smilingatit ,mindblown ,SLIPSTER14 ,staffer ,welderman48 ,curlyheed65 ,
lazylife2014 ,cheekymonkey12 ,sticktoit ,slavedriver26 ,smoking and falseflag14.
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I have seen all the logos on that website page but I must say that I wasn't so taken by any of them . This one is the best in my opinion.Its modern and futurist. It's simple but effective. I also like the Writing down each side (New Economic Movement) which initially is not seen so much as the attention is on the bigger letters NEM in the middle but then the writing down the side seems to appear thus giving newbies the wording to the letters. If it was meant to do this then it is very clever. A New Economy Movement appearing!!!! |
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In the years to come ENERGY WILL MATTER FOR EVERYTHING so using less of it is needed.
guys at the top(btc miners,nxt shareholders) will always make a killing so the most efficient and less energy sapping system
for the masses is best.
I thought LTC was faster than BTC to use but NXT is even faster.
Of course, you will have to get your wallets out folks.....the MIGHTY 'NEM' will be arriving soon......DONT MISS OUT !!!!!!!!!!
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Hi there, I just noticed that my transaction on thread one was put down as" bogus". The reason I have taken so long to get back to you is because I saw a tick at my name - number 1403 (although you now have a no.1726 on this latest thread) and I thought everything was ok.
I have checked it and have realised that I made a mistake and put down down 'YOUR' NXT address instead of the transaction number.
Here is the proper transaction number ------ 8251396164085517925
TRANSACTION : 8251396164085517925
» Timestamp : 29.01.2014 17:05:39
» Block : 14610935024728035518
» Amount : 300
» Fee : 1
» Confirmations : 13761
» Deadline : 1440
» Sender : 13047947996864699800
» Recipient : 14343293611098709683 treviso32
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Re: [ANN] NEM : Descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins - Equal Shares for ALL
January 29, 2014, 06:38:28 PM
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interested 300 nxt have been sent. id 14343293611098709683 --------SORRY ABOUT THIS INCONVENIANCE BUT i DID PAY----------
Solved, thanks. Hello, after telling me my problem was solved I dont appear to be anywhere on thread 1. I know you guys are busy but can you help sort this out? |
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Hi there, I just noticed that my transaction on thread one was put down as" bogus". The reason I have taken so long to get back to you is because I saw a tick at my name - number 1403 (although you now have a no.1726 on this latest thread) and I thought everything was ok.
I have checked it and have realised that I made a mistake and put down down 'YOUR' NXT address instead of the transaction number.
Here is the proper transaction number ------ 8251396164085517925
TRANSACTION : 8251396164085517925
» Timestamp : 29.01.2014 17:05:39
» Block : 14610935024728035518
» Amount : 300
» Fee : 1
» Confirmations : 13761
» Deadline : 1440
» Sender : 13047947996864699800
» Recipient : 14343293611098709683 treviso32
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Online Online
Activity: 2
View Profile Email Personal Message (Online)
Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0)
Re: [ANN] NEM : Descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins - Equal Shares for ALL
January 29, 2014, 06:38:28 PM
Delete message #1726
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interested 300 nxt have been sent. id 14343293611098709683 --------SORRY ABOUT THIS INCONVENIANCE BUT i DID PAY----------
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interested 300 nxt have been sent. id 14343293611098709683
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