Getting close. Got an order shipped notification in the wee hours this morning EST US

B1:
2014-06-30 16:38:26.0

As I said, I was not patient enough. I can only take your word on what happened in the UK because no one has said up until this point that you were our hero. I wish you had been able to sell yourself better on your return and not been forced to keep your mouth shut. A customer directed email or two on your successes from the first trip would have gone miles. I've purchased from Minersource before and after this BA thing. I'm sure this isn't directed specifically against me as I've said several times that I'm a very small potatoes and only ordered a single X1 from you. I'm wishing that you had been more successful, not less. I hope it is different this time, and so far you do seem to be posting quite a bit more than last time. Anyway, I no longer have any skin in this game, so I'm going to stop replying at this point.

Your customers will make or break you. Not everyone is as optimistic and loyal as a lapdog, and those lapdog customers tend to not be very long-lived anyway. BA has made it clear they have thin skin. They want to play favorites with the future discounts. They veil information in jargon. They pretend to be too busy to spend 2 minutes to post an update. That's very childish. I understand it's in line with the average in this infant industry, but there are companies who are raising and will continue to raise that bar.

My last piece of advice: Don't play BA's game - treat all your customers with respect and as much information as you can provide them and you'll enjoy more success than BA ever will. You don't need to like your customers to make money off them, but you do need them.

Yes, that let-down is what caused me to cancel my purchase with Minersource and involvement in the DZ group buy. It was a whole lot of bluster about getting something done, then "be patient," "he's tried from traveling," and then eventually no information came from it. As it turns out I may have not been patient enough since there were changes at BA quite a while after, but I see signs of repetition this time. As someone who has traveled internationally before, I know it can be taxing, but not so much that status updates can't be posted.

I hope you all get your updates this time and bobsag3 is able to provide something positive, or at least informative, here on the forum or (preferably also) in email to patiently waiting customers who need to be reminded every now and then that someone hasn't just run off with their money. That's the best way to keep customers loyal.

I read the email notification on this and thought you said 180th and just about flew out of my chair.

Individual worker data would also be a nice feature.

I have a CX750 (non modular) powering 2 S1s for well over a month, no overclock, no problems. It may not last for years, but neither will the S1s profitability.

Ordered 2 S1's on Monday. They'll be here Friday. Ordered an S2 also on Monday. It will be here the following Monday. They ship fast.

Some of us will never understand the aversion to email.

When all else fails, call people names and throw around credentials. It's much more enlightening than anything technical.

It would be nice to know. I don't think they have said what the cut off is though.

Yeah, I'm just confused why raskul would imply otherwise. He used to be very much for this pool. I am familiar with the mechanism behind merged mining and know it won't affect luck. There are really only two things other than luck itself that would affect luck. First is a problem with the pool itself - coding, intentional or otherwise. Second is a selfish miner attack - one or more of the bigger miners would be withholding blocks.

On this pool, selfish mining makes no sense. Someone with multiple TH of power is unlikely to waste it on such a small pool. Withholding a block means they don't get paid either. That doesn't mean it isn't or hasn't happened. People do irrational things all the time. That leaves a problem with the pool itself. We've seen this pool solve blocks before, and even with low powered miners, so coding is unlikely the issue. An intentional issue with the pool operator collecting but not reporting or paying out on solved blocks was more of a concern before the "mmpool" account started posting and modifying some things on the pool. That the pool itself is interested in succeeding is a positive sign here. That leaves just a really bad string of luck as the cause.

Removing some of the features of the pool is not going to cause miners to move here. That just makes no sense.

You are implying that merged mining and awful luck are related? How is that possible?

They aren't refunding all of them with BA, they are reselling them internally. Same with the X-3 R17 group buy. Good for them for turning this to their advantage. There's a customer (sucker) born every minute.

At the risk of derailing this thread again, I'll just say that it is a fallacy to tell yourself or others that you'll donate when you are richer. This is true in life and in the pool. If you are greedy with your current salary, you will be greedy with your future higher salary. Greed knows no limits. Start donating when you are "poor" or it will hurt too much to start when you are "rich".

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The difference between what I paid in BTC and what I received in BTC was 0.0009. I didn't look too much into the conversion rates because I try to not think about conversion rates when buying/selling miners since it just confuses the only thing that ever should matter: BTC profit. It is quite likely they made some fiat on conversion, but I really don't care. They took a risk doing that and could have lost or won. I'm not a fan of bobsag3 by any measure, but Minersource was completely fair as far as I'm concerned.

I did a BTC refund at Minersource for an X-1. They paid me back in full BTC minus a reasonable transaction fee.

It's a very smart move by them. They've already proven that their customers can't do basic math. If you have customers like that, why not take advantage of it?

Anyone buying GHS today at these prices is completely mathematically challenged. On the 25th those FHA contracts will mature, and there is no way 1GHS of hashing will produce the difference in cost between today and then.

0.0094 current GHS price (and rising for some idiotic reason)
0.0083 current FHA price (matures on 25 APR)
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0.0011 BTC you would need to mine in 1 week to make a 1 GHS buy today more profitable than buying FHA

0.0005044 Calculated BTC you'll mine in a week with 1 GHS (excluding their maintenance fee)

So yeah, they know their customers very well and this will not hurt them.

southerngentuk broke it

Seems either hardware testing is going on or just some large miners are starting up. 1.1PH just came online at BTCGuild today. I really wish someone like that would take a look at this pool. Not only would they earn more because of the lower fees, DGM method, and merge mined coins, but getting 100% of the fees for the vast majority of the blocks found would also be a plus for them.

That would be quite the load test for mmpool, but it sure would be nice to blast through a few blocks.

Over a long enough time you should expect the same BTC/MHS/DAY rate from all pools minus their fees. The difference with mmpool is that hashrate is currently low enough that you may go days without payment and then get a big payment all at once.

Madoff was making quite a bit too.