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Something is not adding up here !!
So let me get this straight
Cryptopia is by far your largest exchange ,, but you didn’t demand that cryptopia must
Suspend all btc/pac trade because it’s screwing investors ?
Why didn’t the pac team issue a threat to cryptopia to immediately
Stop the fraudulent btc/Pac trade ?
You obviously knew thousands of investors were getting a bad deal ,, you were watching
While this took place yet you said nothing to your biggest exchange !!!!!
Why ??
Were you dumping your own stash of pac ,, making tons of money while screwing investors ?
Why didn’t you at least ask cryptopia to announce btc/pac is a high price ?
I just smell insider trading
Something smells bad
Finally someone that understand this scam! Instead of crying out, please go and read their website and blog. It is clearly said there about how to redeem and for how long. If someone bought the current PAC coin you can still redeem for the new $PAC coin till 2019 I read. I have read in their blog and so should you do the same instead of complaining. Please do your due diligence before buying any coin. Its your money and your responsibility to find out why you are buying any coin. What you have written is nothing to do with what he is calling out. Are you slow? Or simply someone that benefited from the SCAM? |
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99% of people who invested in this shitcoin did not read this forum. Why would they? its not called Paccoin talk is it?
Paccoin should have communicated this through their OFFICIAL channels. Better yet if they actually gave a fuck they would have asked Crooktopia to not open the BTC Pair as it would harm their investors.
But they DIDN'T for all the reasons people have called out. I hope this coin and company burn and die. I don't even care if my money goes to zero which it almost has due to all the SCAMMING they have done.
Sorry man, if you had at least read the links (obviously not, because reading is tiring  ) you would have found the answer! Now I will do the work for you, but next time you do your homework  "...On PacCoin website there is a big warning on buying Pac on BTC/PAC market, because a little change between 1 and 2 sat on BTC market make you loose a half of your money!..." On Yobit.net there was BTC/PAC pair too. Big warning also for Yobit, if you read the thread you can find MANY refferrals. Now I am very tired, in Italy today there are national political elections. Talking with you is like trying to convince my grandmother not to vote Berlusconi again! She will do the same  Stop lying you fucking nonce. There were NO warnings on ANY official PAC site, maybe they put something on after they flooded all their shit coins onto Crooktopia and crashed the market and then held peoples money in their wallets and closed the market maybe? |
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If you want to start a discussion about research start reading my previous comments before you judge me. I have never said anything of what you say here. I am saying i have a wallet the one day it holds .043 btc in value, the next day its value is 0.009 btc you can sit here and tell me im dumb for buying in a peak, but thats nonsense. The value was .043 i can prove that. The next day the exchange happens and suddenly the value is less. You are all telling me the same sobbing story, that noone here is going to believe. Value doent change like that. If it says i have 100 euro in my wallet it doesnt vanish like that! The problem is that no-one warned me about the value dropping lower then the posible lowest price in btc. The team updated everyone YET THERES NOTHING ON THEIR WEBSITE DURING OR PRIOR TO THE PAC TO BTC RELEASE. Now stop acting like we are dumb investors. We are the reason you have more money now, stop being a bunch of dicks and start to see what is being said here. I dont need their website links, i have them i have been on their twitter account from late last year. What you are saying is bullshit, there were NO WARNINGS and if there were SHOW THEM.
Don't be naive, I know what I say. PAGES of this! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg29221509#msg29221509https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg28317915#msg28317915https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg27713921#msg27713921https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331394.msg27692209#msg2769220999% of people who invested in this shitcoin did not read this forum. Why would they? its not called Paccoin talk is it? Paccoin should have communicated this through their OFFICIAL channels. Better yet if they actually gave a fuck they would have asked Crooktopia to not open the BTC Pair as it would harm their investors. But they DIDN'T for all the reasons people have called out. I hope this coin and company burn and die. I don't even care if my money goes to zero which it almost has due to all the SCAMMING they have done. |
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Keep your eyes $PAC next few day we wiil can see $PAC down 140sat >>100sat>>>50sat >>20sat>>>5sat>> 1sat end= Scam
Finally confirmed , new dev team scammed billion dollar by offering pac swap. Yep. Pac team loaded their worthless tokens onto Crooktopia for a 20X gain when they agreed with Crooktopia to open up BTC/PAC pair and close the LTC/DOGE real value markets. Then they closed market so no one could get out. Open market after swap and BANG your investment is 30% lower value and in the hands of PAC. This has to go down as one of the biggest robberies of ALL TIME. PAC must be pissing themselves at pulling this off. |
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Do not be a victim of FUD Someone might be wanting to get in to buy $PAC with a much cheaper price. A piece of advice. Kindly do your research on "how cyrpto currency works", "blockchain", "confirmation", "wallets", "COINS", "trading", "fiat", "hash" etc. All your trades are your decision and responsibility! When I first bought BCT at more than $1000 in 2013 and the price dropped to below $250 (and briefly below $100) in 2014. Did I call it a scam coin? Now look back it was not just a history- it was a time to buy more if you choose so. FUD? They have screwed people over you nonce. Read what happened with this SCAM Pac and Crytopia have fucked people over badly with the Manipulation of the markets. Im not gonna explain all the details again. |
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Coinmarketcap wit new $PAC and Cryptopia will be done soon. Finally...
When do you see this happening? Do you have insider info you might want to share? Thank you. Cryptopia is going under maintenance as we speak for one hour. I just hope theyre doing the swap right now. Also Paccoin official twitter page called it an hour ago. Plus they said coinmarketcap including pac soon. So our watch begins now. Stay calm Craptopia holders, swap is coming. Lets just hope the price goes up.  Awesome sir or maam. This is true crypto in the making. No ICO. No ERC20 fake coins!!! No scams!!! Just good old fashion coins. In MMHO, (My Most Humble Opinion,) $Pac has a good opportunity to become a top 50 coin, with a serious 1 dollar value and a possibility to become a 10 dollar coin and beyond. Before I get bashed with numbers and impossibilities, just top and think!!! The "People's" Alternative Choice!!! The whole world has over 128 different currencies on the streets, at a value of over 500 trillion Dollars, if we compare them to Dollars. How about the digital moneys and values of real estate, businesses, Gold, Platinum, Diamonds, Technology, ect. Are you seeing the potential for Paccoin? I wish you all the best and if you do make it big with Paccoin, do something good for us all. Make jobs. Make people happy. Enjoy your earnings.  Thank you so much for your input. No Scams? what happened to the people who bought with the BTC/PAC trading pair? This is bitconnect 2.0. |
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I have all my PAC balance at Cryptopia, so what should I do? Is my balance going to be swaped along? or should I follow the steps adviced by Jackatwo on the next post: Hi Guys Yobit had the PacCoin to the new $Pac swap 1st March they then deleted the old paccoin from there systems and started trading the new $PAC but on Yobit they do not use symbols so deleted the $ off the PAC and are trading with PAC, so try not to be confused if you try sending old paccoin coins to the new PAC ( $PAC ) Do not send the old Paccoins to that wallet in Yobit or you will lose your coins. only $PAC from the new wallet will except $PAC coinsCryptopia in New Zealand did the swap of old Paccoin to the new $PAC on the 28th February but have not opened $PAC for trading yet, we don't know when they will be opened as they at one stage had on their website 2 more weeks,  If you have not done redemption then I would suggest you do it as soon as you can, you only have this month at 1000 paccoin to 1 $PAC then next month it drops to 2000 paccoin to 1 $PAC Want to do the redemption now, then here is a document to show you how, we have made it easier for you. That is this is an easy step by step chart to help you set up and exchange your old PacCoin for the new $PAC https://docs.google.com/document/d/1khl3YOAzJMWIhtW0QSjpVikMiJb4gMWObe7XQbksPZA/edit?usp=sharing Englishhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1KO7l_vmnH0isXqYSUmwZLStJnuoZJPnIKPqDISOGYAA/edit Japanesehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/15wIl9mMlZSoA4ElGvChGncrUvCk7cf-LZG04eVOnR_A/edit?usp=sharing Frenchhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/cz1hwhu0h064q59/PAC_White_Paper_2018_Final-RUS.pdf?dl=0 RussianNow if you find that too hard still, the Moderators on the official PAC Peoples Alternative Choice discord group are really helpful and the link to it is here>> https://discord.gg/QWm6QrsThere is really no excuse not to be able to change your coins in the redemption, there is help everywhere, but there is also scammers out there to which is WHY one should go to the official People's Alternative Choice PAC and no other. if you have already done your redemption and have not got your new coins then send an email to support (@) paccoin.net A further note to people wanting to send coins through the redemption wallet to the wallets dated days like Monday Tuesday and so on, it does not really matter what day it is as they will all get looked at eventually anyway. The following are the redemption wallets to send to, 1. Sat: Aw9yEjiCUXtoJzav9vCiFTm98UBk5GombU
2. Sun: AxqfDhAkhbna8Ft9WmqE2QwVqQUEfnNRnh
3. Mon: AgV85LiTHnLCa7xdYHNxMwyRCAPPNoK6td
4. Tue: B3zGATXPtNRbHCeAmhH1sFTb4f2RQJW6nS
5. Wed: Azhg43v7TAbhfd3MBfsZaSfWfCEqo2hrcw
6. Thu: ArUtzuRrCvkBQcK6KZrBsejt74EJjj9ZJC
7. Fri: B3UDXtQkmwfFy2Vx2mpAPasovgG395omhRThere is a pretty picture there where it shows where to put your address and the address of your nice brand new $PAC wallet, (Important and critical) take a screenshot before you send it, in case. there is no other wallet address, watch for sites where scammers try to lead you to they want them valuable coins you have for themselves. Can some one help me? Thank you in advance. Help you? Lol they will bend you over. They dont give a fook about investors. |
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What happened on cryptopia was an organised pump and dump, sal wolf, bill old dev and brad dumped their billions of coins for 1 to 2 sat to innocent ppl, who had no clue what was happening. i remember back that time they were actually encouraging ppl to buy as much as they can and one of the first live stream done by brad, he was taking credit of high price and it was big achievement for pac team. Most of ppl included myself bought pac from cryptopia @ 1 sat and my investment is down more than 80% now. I understand we have no choice but to wait and see maybe in 1 year time we can recover our investment back, who knows!
I bought PacCoin in early November 2017. My money already grow 2000%, for me Pac team done a great job so far I'm sorry for those who bought at 1 sat, but to accuse the team for this will not help the price. $PAC already has a great diffusion, the value will rise for everyone my friend. I hope you will change your mind in the coming weeks, all my wishes! You, PAC and Crooktopia made money out of the SCAM BTC/PAC pairing. All the DOGE/LTC people sold as soon as that pairing went up and made a fortune. I bet PAC sold into BTC to make money out of their investors as soon as the pairing came up. Well done PAC team bet you made a shitload you cunts. However this stopped the BTC/PAC pairing people that realised they had just been SCAMMED from selling due to the huge sell walls. Oh and then the market pauses and they lock up your wallet meaning you can sell at a lesser LOSS than what has just happened after the redemption. People lost thousands in this SCAM. This is the new BITCONNECT. FACT. |
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What was promised was the price going up x 1000, if i bought 1000 old PAC against 0.00000001 satoshi the value would be 0.00001000 sat. When the fork happened that should have become 1 $PAC against 0.00001000 sat. There was no discussion about this taking longer or it would happen on the long run because the coin would rise in value.
Long story short, this is a scam and not a small one too. I have lost 0.035 btc on this too and i feel like everyone else. If this is the start of the new $PAC then this is a bad start, your reputation was already poor it will become worst. I feel screwed after waiting for 2 months, this is very bad!
Its a bunch of crap, the coin can be lower ofcourse it can. The Doge/LTC markets on Cryptopia dont exist anymore. Just before the whole fork thing they started trade on the Cryptopia BTC market, people started buying the coin gained 800million usd on coin marketcap in a few days. Then you say well you should have bought at a lower price then 0.00000001 btc, thats rediculous, if that were the case they should not have started trading on the btc market. They made a commitment, that commitment was 1000 to 1 in the coins and 1 too 1000 in value, the value of my pac was 0.00000001 untill yesterday. There was no notification that the value was lower nor was there anything about this in the communiques from PAC or Cryptopia.
I state from their email about the fork:
• We will be halting the PAC/BTC market sometime in the next few days. If you haven’t cancelled any open orders by the time this happens then we will cancel them for you
• The old wallet will be decommissioned and replaced with the new $PAC wallet. While this is in progress we will be disabling deposits and withdrawals. Please DO NOT send any PACcoin to your Cryptopia wallet effective immediately.
• Any confirmed balance of PACcoin you have on Cryptopia will be swapped 1000:1 or 1000 current PACcoins for 1 new $PAC on the new blockchain.
• The new $PAC will be listed on Cryptopia once we have completed the balance transfers
Where is a warning about the value being less then 0.00000001 sat?
The value of my pac wallet yesterday was: 0.04376469 today it suddenly is: 0.00912853.. Seriously!?
I got scammed by PAC and Cryptopia, they did a change and now my BTC value crashed.
Please return our BTC!!! SCAMMERS!!
My response is targeted for all who don't understand what happened. I understand your frustration. We are very sympathetic about your situation, but rest assured that there is no funny business going on. Everything we've stated since the beginning, is exactly what happened. The 1 sat price with BTC was not the true price of the old PAC. A 900 BTC sell wall at 1 sat essentially crashed the pairing of PAC/BTC, locking the price at 1 sat. The PAC team, admins, moderators, and even the general public investors were on multiple platforms and informing the public to buy with DOGE, LTC, USD, on other exchanges, and to avoid buying with BTC due to the incorrect price. Your BTC value showing on Cryptopia was based on your 1 sat buy price. It didn't update to the actual value based on the real price. So when the redemption happened, you saw what the actual value really was. We understand that this has caused a lot of confusion, and in many cases, anger. The redemption swap did not change the price. It didn't affect it in any way. New $PAC was listed at x1000 of the then current real price of the old PAC when it went live on TradeSatoshi, which was just around $0.03. Meaning, old PAC price was actually $0.00003. You can fact check it on CoinMarketCap and look at the price on that day. There is no scam taking place. No one "got your coins". When you bought at 1 sat, Cryptopia may have gotten a little more from you in terms of the exchange fees for purchasing, but that's it. We don't receive anything when you buy/sell on any exchange. Only those that sell their PAC/$PAC get money, aside from the trading fee for the exchange. I hope this clears up any confusion. If PAC cared about the investors it would have got Crooktopia to shut down that BTC pairing and withdraw the coin from that exchange, especially when they stopped the other markets they should have not been allowed to create a pairing which was making investors pay way over the top and knowingly lost them money. PAC stood by and did nothing. Where were these announcements? Did PAC display anything on any of their official forums advising people NOT to trade on Cryptopia? PAC has failed its investors full stop. If you are a proper company you will do something about the people you have allowed to lost money with the SCAM which Crooktopia was doing. Also people could not minimize their losses due to the coins being locked up for all that time. That was another scandalous part of this SCAM episode. Again you need to be doing something about this. Please explain what PAC intends to do with the investors who have lost money from deception. |
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