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1  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: What are the actual good companies out there? on: January 01, 2014, 07:03:57 AM
Dont trust butterfly labs, they wont send you your miner until christmas next year.
Yeah, that's what I've heard -- also that they're a hot mess. Underperformed, draw too much power, failures, etc.
2  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: What are the actual good companies out there? on: January 01, 2014, 06:54:10 AM
There's a pretty big difference between a good company and a reliably profitable miner.

BFL made the mistake of underperforming, delivering late, and having bad PR.  I own a BFL device; it looks good at performs better than advertised.  It will never be profitable.

Cointerra actually looks like a very solid company and device.  They're the company I'm personally most inclined to trust, although I can't speak towards their schedule, pricing, or ROI.  Their executive team inspires a lot of confidence as well.

BitMain is shipping products now, and they're the other end of the spectrum from Cointerra...  small, simple ASICs that get the job done.  Communication is a bit spotty, and they're not great about updating their github with appropriate documentation, but it works and you can buy one right now and get it next week.  There's something to be said for delivering on time and on spec, even if it's nothing spectacular.

It sounds like HashFast dropped the ball on a couple things, and was a little inexperienced when it came to things like regulatory testing.

I wasn't really paying attention when KNC announced and shipped, but it sounds like they were in the right place at the right time with the right product.  I get the impression they're advanced amateurs, but money could shore them up. We'll have to see if they can capitalize on their head start.

CoinCraft just posted positive news regarding their A1 chip, and it's looking promising.  I'm hopeful that they'll be able to deliver, and perhaps become one of the first companies to provide moderate performance chips to the DIY crowd.

Black Arrow is another company I have high hopes for, but I don't have any facts to back that up other than some well established forum members vouching for them.  Maybe someone else can help there.

ROI is a tricky subject, and I don't think you're going to get any help here.  Any purchase if going to be high risk, whether it's mining equipment or market speculation.  
Why am I unlikely to get help here? And, I understand purchases are going to be high-risk, which is a large part of why I'm walking circles around the market, analyzing it about to death before investing cash in it. Fortunately, I've already cleared $thousands in pure profit from bitcoin, and I purchased a mining contract on eBay with an additional portion /beyond/ that, so I think I'm fairly decently insulated, but....money wants more of the same, and my calculations and speculations are looking pretty good -- I'm just looking for a company that won't take my money and disappear into the ether.

You've confirmed some of the things I was already thinking, w/r/t Cointerra and BlackArrow being the potential frontrunners. I can't seem to find an actual website for BitMain, though -- all I see are forum threads here and one reseller site, apparently owned by Black Arrow.

Thanks for your post and insight, and I'm sure I'll have more questions.

I hope you had a good new year's eve, and may '14 bring us all good fortune.
3  Bitcoin / Hardware / What are the actual good companies out there? on: January 01, 2014, 04:31:54 AM
I've been hearing so much about BFL being a scam, Cointerra not meeting their timelines for product push-out, KNC being the major game in town...and then other names pop up, like ASICMiner, HashFast, Black Arrow Software...

As someone who's looking to get into dedicated ASIC rigs, because consumer hardware isn't paying the bills anymore, how do you weed out the chaff and figure out who're the major players? get the best ROI?

Looking at the Bitcoin Profit Calculator, even if the difficulty is double what it is currently, the heavy ASICS (500GH/s and up) are still profitable enough. So why the hate for the heavy miners, and where should one look to get the best ASIC? Black Arrow's Prospero X-3? KNC's Jupiter? Or one of the newer players?
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Dogecoin Pool doge.scryptpools.com - 2% fee on: December 26, 2013, 07:57:33 AM
Hello! I was wondering how I go about getting payouts from the pool? The text fields for amount and address and such aren't accepting input. What's going on?

e: this is also the case for other pools that use the same UI as Doge.scryptpools.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is there any altcoin promising? on: December 16, 2013, 05:58:19 AM
I'm fairly interested in Litecoin. The market's not currently huge for it, it's safe (for now) against the big heavy ASICs that are dominating the Bitcoin arena, and the return is okay. If Bitcoin starts getting hard stupid with the difficulty, I might try to ease back into mining for Litecoins instead of Bitcoins.
It's a good idea.
BTC is too heavy for daily use, while LTC is a good alternative.
But even altcoin like LTC doing very good in the market, I am still looking for some altcoins that can provide an inspiring & revolutionary system, which I have failed, sounds to me the BTC is the final station to currency revolution.

I'd rather take it as a transfering system than a type of daily used currency.
Oh, most definitely. I'd be using Litecoin as "a way to get Bitcoin," not as a currency/means of exchange in and of itself. The problem Litecoin specifically faces (which is true in general for all altcoins) is that Bitcoin has the enviable position of being first in its sphere. Bitcoin is pretty safe in its position -- I don't see much jarring it loose save for a catastrophic failure of the network.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is there any altcoin promising? on: December 16, 2013, 05:46:29 AM
I'm fairly interested in Litecoin. The market's not currently huge for it, it's safe (for now) against the big heavy ASICs that are dominating the Bitcoin arena, and the return is okay. If Bitcoin starts getting hard stupid with the difficulty, I might try to ease back into mining for Litecoins instead of Bitcoins.
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