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some reason i got bitcoin privet in my bittrex wallet. and can not do with them , not active any idea guys?
Bitrex supports BTCP airdrop. You'll have to transfer the fund to tradesatoshi.com or other exchange that list BTCP to sell it. |
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I have some BTC addresses that had a balance on the fork date, yet I check them in the Bitcoin Private Explorer at: https://explorer.btcprivate.org/And it says "No Matching Records Found!" Is anyone else having this issue and what is going on there. Thank you. BTCP block explorer won't have a record until you claim your BTCP. |
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Holy shieeet btcp up to $40 lol go slap ur donkey !!! Wooot wooot bring out the rockets and moons fellas it’s time to celebrate 🎉
Great to see but that occur only less then until now backward is happening. Just thought now it just needs major exchange listings. Anyway, I’m holding BTCP. We are the BTCP people will rock together. Cheers! Woohoo ! $77 at CMC  https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-private/#markets |
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I have a question about the shielded address.
1) Can I send coins from a B Address (Transparent) to a Z Address (Private)?
2) Will it work with a Electrum wallet or do I need the full-node
3) If I send it back to a B Address would the block-chain trail be blank or would it pick up were the coins previously left off?
I asking because I want to move my Transparent coins off the grid but also don't want to come back and haunt me later if you know what I mean. Like once the coins get moved into a private address no can see them or know how many there are, but if they ever end up back on a B address would it be traceable back to the original B address it was mined to?
1) Yes you can... But you will need full node desktop wallet to do the transfer for now. 2) Electrum wallet is not supported at the moment. Only full-node wallet. 3) On the blockchain, if you sent from private (P) to transparent (T) address, it will be like BTCP came out of hidden address. I've started to do this will all of my storage coins. You send from T->P, and get another private address, then from P->P. Your coins are masked and not traceable until you take it out. If you put it in hardware wallet in cold storage, its unlikely it will ever get hacked. |
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Wow, this is great! BTCP can be both private and secure. I am very happy with that step of BTCP for their community. I know that from the beginning that community is very active for the development of their coin and to give a true fruits to the users of BTCP but I am not seeing this coin on bigger exchanges. Can we expect that they will add this coin to bigger exchanges. There are many coins which are smaller coins than BTCP and are added to binance and bittrex but now seeing this coin on these exchanges. HitBTC is also awaiting us for the good news from two months. Actually, it's a perfect time to accumulate more BTCP on the smaller exchanges. We already saw that any incremental change to the coin (e.g. ledger nano S support, SegWit claims, Merchant support, etc.) there is a pretty big percentage bump up the price and its traded on tiny exchanges. One can only imagine trading on big exchange with even bigger incremental changes. If you take a look at percentage-wise, BTCP is #1 or #2 in volume trading on these tiny exchanges. It beats BTC, ETH most of the time in volume. It means people want this coin. So don't let the chance goes by. This BTCP coin has the similar feeling to ETH from last year, it's about time to explode. Personally, I don't want big exchanges to jump in for another month or so. I want to accumulate more at this price. |
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Wow, this is great! BTCP can be both private and secure. Very strange choice. There are many more promising crypto currencies, I do not understand why they chose BitcoinPrivate... It's not strange... Other coins just didn't put in any effort integrating with ledger whereas BTCP community dedicated development cycle for ledger integration. This is why community support is so important. |
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Can anyone explain me the difference between BitcoinPrivate and BitcoinZ? Conceptually little difference, both use bitcoin's community and zk-SNARK. BTCP bring in an additional ZCL community and plenty of developers. The BTCP project development is going blazing fast and getting lots of support. BTCP potentially has huge liquidation with potential 20+ million coins whereas BTCZ has 1.5+ million... just to name a few |
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Wow, this is great! BTCP can be both private and secure. |
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The herd is coming
Where do you see it coming?  Bitcoin Private still has low volume and if this is supposed to be herd action, well, it can only become better over time  I know it hurts to have missed out on the 100% percent gain but don’t worry! It’s not too late to get in, there will be many more 100% gain days coming soon! The herd is coming  Not sure if anyone checked this. But on both tradesatoshi.com and nanex.co, BTCP is either the highest trading volume or close to the highest trading volume for the top 2 exchanges now. https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/trade-satoshi/https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/nanex/ |
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Can I know that when will they add their coin to some bigger exchanges or alternatively we can ask that when will these bigger exchanges allow BTCP to be listed on their exchanges? It is important to get listed for the price to get higher and to be adopted by more investors and users of crypto. If they will not let it live on bigger exchanges then people will not rely on it for their bigger capital.
Can someone please explain why a "big exchange" is so important? Anyone that wants BTCP can open an account with one of the supporting exchanges in about 10 minutes. Liquidity. Yes, you are correct. Anyone can open an account in about 10 minutes. It's fine for smaller investors. No problem buying/selling 100 coins or less. But the medium to large players cannot touch this coin. There is not enough liquidity. It will never have the same liquidity as coins with a large circulating supply, but larger exchanges will definitely help. I don't know if a larger exchange (larger based on volume of other coins) would necessarily translate into more liquidity of btcp. Anyone wanting to sell now will have their coins on one of the exchanges, so I would think that more exchanges would spread out the supply further. Thinly traded on multiple exchanges may introduce some good arbitrage opportunities. Where things will get interesting, in my opinion, is if/when they start collecting the "unclaimed" coins. I would speculate that most of the ZCL coins have been claimed, while most BTC holders don't even know they have BTCP to claim - much less know how to claim it. That's a lot of coin! If they use it to develop the project this could be a success. At any rate they have until next March to make some progress. I don't think there will be enough miners left after the block reward halfing next March to keep the network secure, in fact, you would have a good argument that with the current network hash rate about 10 MH/s, a 51% attack would not be too expensive to pull off. Good news is right now it wouldn't be worth it. If the price increases, obviously the hash rate will increase, but the price would have to double by March just to maintain the current low hash rate. It's interesting that you mentioned about the liquidity. I did a quick google and found the following site: https://btcp.blockexplorer.link/richlistit indicates that there are approximate 4.4 million BTCP in circulation. If this site is correct, then a huge chunk of the BTC owner don't know how to claim BTCP... or many of the large exchange just simply won't support claiming of BTCP. if the 4.4 million BTCP in circulation is true, is that enough coins in circulation to have huge move in the price? Then again, the 4.4 million BTCP just counting the transparent wallet (public visible), not counting BTCP stored in the private wallet. It will be extremely interesting to see how many coins actually hidden in the blockchain. |
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Can I know that when will they add their coin to some bigger exchanges or alternatively we can ask that when will these bigger exchanges allow BTCP to be listed on their exchanges? It is important to get listed for the price to get higher and to be adopted by more investors and users of crypto. If they will not let it live on bigger exchanges then people will not rely on it for their bigger capital.
Can someone please explain why a "big exchange" is so important? Anyone that wants BTCP can open an account with one of the supporting exchanges in about 10 minutes. Liquidity. Yes, you are correct. Anyone can open an account in about 10 minutes. It's fine for smaller investors. No problem buying/selling 100 coins or less. But the medium to large players cannot touch this coin. There is not enough liquidity. It will never have the same liquidity as coins with a large circulating supply, but larger exchanges will definitely help. I don't know if a larger exchange (larger based on volume of other coins) would necessarily translate into more liquidity of btcp. Anyone wanting to sell now will have their coins on one of the exchanges, so I would think that more exchanges would spread out the supply further. Thinly traded on multiple exchanges may introduce some good arbitrage opportunities. Where things will get interesting, in my opinion, is if/when they start collecting the "unclaimed" coins. I would speculate that most of the ZCL coins have been claimed, while most BTC holders don't even know they have BTCP to claim - much less know how to claim it. That's a lot of coin! If they use it to develop the project this could be a success. At any rate they have until next March to make some progress. I don't think there will be enough miners left after the block reward halfing next March to keep the network secure, in fact, you would have a good argument that with the current network hash rate about 10 MH/s, a 51% attack would not be too expensive to pull off. Good news is right now it wouldn't be worth it. If the price increases, obviously the hash rate will increase, but the price would have to double by March just to maintain the current low hash rate. It's interesting that you mentioned about the liquidity. I did a quick google and found the following site: https://btcp.blockexplorer.link/richlistit indicates that there are approximate 4.4 million BTCP in circulation. If this site is correct, then a huge chunk of the BTC owner don't know how to claim BTCP... or many of the large exchange just simply won't support claiming of BTCP. if the 4.4 million BTCP in circulation is true, is that enough coins in circulation to have huge move in the price? |
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It has only been a few months since I got into crypto so I am, I suppose, you can call a noob. I have done some reading on BTCP and I am not sure what to think of it. Lot of comments saying it is a scam but then there are also people saying it is a solid coin. I want to invest but I am not sure with all the mixed comments.
Anything new about this coin and team I should know about?
The best thing is to do your own due diligence. Plenty of videos and paper on the web that talks about zero-knowledge proof or zkSNARK algorithm used in BTCP. This really is a differentiator from other bitcoin babies. Plenty of pumper and dumper on this coin and every other baby bitcoins out there. Make your own judgment by study the coin, its technology, its community, and the developers that back it. For me, I found this coin to be very interesting and very promising. |
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Buy the dip big exchanging willl be listing soon! The herd is coming!
What is the source of this news big exchanges give signals to make list this coin. I didn't find any kind of news over the internet did my search but no result appear maybe you have some inside news. hitbtc, but don't know when. #7 by trading volume. https://twitter.com/hitbtc/status/981832638301462528 |
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What does this project offer that's different from bitcoin gold or bitcoin diamond?
Privacy. Every blockchain (bitcoin, bitcoin gold, bitcoin diamond), although anonymous, your accounts and transactions are traceable. Just take a quick search on the blockchain explorer with your wallet ID and you can follow it, how much in the wallet, where it was some of the coins transferred, which wallet ID was transferred to, how much coins, etc.. If you attach a name, website, IP address, etc to your wallet (e.g. wallet on the coinbase.com), eventually people can trace it back how many coins are in the wallet and who it belongs to. With zero knowledge proof, once your coin is in "private wallet" as opposed to "transparent wallet" or public wallet, then your coin is not traceable on the blockchain. Once from send from a transparent wallet to a private wallet, wallet ID, amount, and others transaction-related information is placed in the 0 proof algorithm and completely hidden from blockchain and only exposed to 0 proof. So its kind of like coins disappear to everyone on the blockchain else except whoever holds the private key can access. |
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One apparent reason can be many people dumped in early days their free coins which which they got form hard fork and large part of supply may have reached in whales possessions. That's why they can move the market the way they want. It really surprised everyone suddenly Bitcoin Private woke up and came into news and discussions.
No am not surprised by the sudden rise in price, this is what Rhett does. When it was all about whale coin, it was been touted as the coin that was going to fuel this huge decentralized social network site. A lot of ppl bought into the bullshit and soon as he saw that bitcoin forks were garnering a lot of interest in the news, and everyone was talking about privacy (even Bs coins like deep onion was killing it due to great marketing), he abandoned his post at whalecoin, bought a bunch of zclassic for ridiculously low price, and announced a fork of zclassic. Which we all know he didn't have to fork zclassic to make bitcoin private a reality, there were countless option he would have utilized if he had the interest of the community in mind. But been the shady fucker he is, he intentionally named it bitcoin private cos he knew there was alot of newbs on the scene and they will automatically anticipate that it might attain the same success that bitcoincash had. (After all, it had the name bitcoin in it and it a fork of a coin that sounds like zcash and everyone is talking about zcash) Coupled with his shill army, this drove the price of zclassic up to a point ( comparable to other major bitcoin forks/zcash price) where he comfortable sold and easily made over 9000% percent gain on his investment, and that , not counting the BTCP he also received from the fork. The individuals that bought zlassic ATH received a coin that was worth less than 1/16th what they paid for Zclassic ATH) then he left zclassic and headed over here to repeat the same thing. so anyone who has been following his progression knew a pump of BTCP was inevitable, my only advise to a new investor perusing thru this thread is to make your money fast. this is not a guy you depend on and hold for the long term cos soon as something else piques the market's interest, he will abandon this and go fork that. He even admit it that he loves to fork several coin and it's good for the ecosystem, whatever that means. It's all good if he stays on top of each one rather than fork, milk, abandon and moves to the next stag. Thank you for sharing your insight with all of the ignorant people who will show up to this thread to be robbed like ZCL. It is truly sad and pathetic that the other responses to this post were just negative and rude comments towards somebody with obviously good intention of protecting the interests of new arrivals (humans/investors not greed demons). To be honest, I have only been following this story since I watched ZCL pump like something the "creator" (forker) probably attached to his own phallus and used to (attempt to) increase his size. Ah overcompensation. A bad joke and a greed that will never be sated, that is what we are looking at when viewing BTCP. As a software developer and a student of all (interesting) things crypto, I must say that the first IDIOT move of this fork was to fork ZCL..ZCL was broken, as was ZCASH when it was released (the version that ZCL forked). there was a problem with merging joinsplits on the Z addresses that was/is losing peoples coins: https://github.com/zcash/zcash/issues/3114search "zcash joinsplit bug git" Anyway, I thought they (zcash) fixed that (BY NOW!!!) but the issue is still open as anyone can see. Public info.. Zcash has problems and as such it should have never been released in its current state. Should have been fixed first. But the greedy devs got rich by idiots. I was one of them (an idiot for investing in zcash). When I found out Zero had the same bug (that is where I discovered it when I LOST my zero locked on a Z address. thank god it was 15 zero not 15 ZEC but it would have made no difference to the code what the coin value was. read this as, if it had been Zcash it would have been lost just the same. Why? Nobody knows, apparently but the code keeps getting perpetuated and people keep losing money. BTCP is a broken fork, the problem will NEVER be fixed. If Zcash hasn't even fixed it then Zcash forks are DOOMED unless somebody BETTER than zcash steps up and actually FIXES the problem not just clones to infinity. That is not even to mention the social problem of this coin and the forkers (who have NO INTENTION of improving or developing a coin) are like a cancer to the whole scene. But thats to be expected. Follow the money, follow the greed, rise up to get exploited and vote for BTCP! Just some very bad sarcasm to example how stupid people are. Do you research before investing or simply be prepared to lose all of of your money.Qualifier, since you are a software developer and a student, how come you don't offer yourself to fix it? Will learn valuable experience and get paid much higher when you get out of school. |
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Last change to get BTCP at tradesatoshi price |
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Don't forget cryptojake, he is also the brain behind scam BTCPoop. I think you are missing the two main characters besides Jake and those are Tai Zen and Leon Fu. Probably not their real names. All three are probably hanging out here with new Newbie names on a daily basis. If you noticed Coinbase also block Tai Zen's account whern he tried to cash out big chunk of fiat/BTC after the fork (look at his Twitter https://twitter.com/HeyTaiZen/status/979118357185286145). Rhett is just the innocent front, they gave me a couple of thousand bucks to keep in happy. The "puppy". This was a carefully crafted one, not like Bitconnect, those guys did it wrong. So if the game was over 10 minutes after the fork completed and all ZCL was sold at $86+ on Bittrex, then why are they still here? Because the biggest piece of the game is still not played. The post fork disaster was just a small part of this deal. The bigger part is the BIP9 where they take they start removing BTCP from unclaimed accounts and that is to the tune of $200M to $1B. But they cannot cash out without having this BTCP listed on large exchange to have liquidity. They wiped out all the liquidity and buy orders on Bittrex ZCL exchange, in collaboration with Bittrex that locked up the wallet for deposits and DDOS'd tradesatoshi so there was no competition in the mass sale of ZCL. I did personally lose a good chuck of changes on this but boy I am stunned by the complexity of this "game" that was played. Even right now, now one is noticing the BIP9 that is clearly posted on their Whitepaper. They are going to take millions of BTCP from unclaimed BTC wallets like Satoshi's and dump them. I really hope this goes to less than 1 satoshi very quickly before they can finish the BIP9. 70 Developers. My A$$. I don't see how they could use BIP9 to get access to all the unclaimed coins, but there is something extremely fishy with Jakes's 'coins in circulation' number. It's impossible that there could be 20.3+ million coins in circulation now or ever. The real number is likely about half that much and probably even less. They are either: 1. Inflating the number in an attempt to get a higher listing on CoinmarketCap 2. Pulling some scam where all those lost bitcoins and unclaimed BTCP are magically put in Jake and Rhett's wallet. In this case, there could be 20+ million in circulation or more. Either way, they are flat out lying about the number of coins in circulation. I'm not trying to be rude but it sounds like you don't have a brain to share between you. 1. the numbers aren't inflated CMC is not infallible. the supply includes unclaimed coins which is the reason BTCP was thinking of burning unclaimed coins after a while so that CMC can reflect the true circulating supply. and ... more supply does not inflate rank or market cap it does the opposite so it would be disadvantageous to have a higher supply listed than is true. low supply is good. which is a hidden reason why BTCP is so under-valued. many coins aren't claimed... and the team isn't sure if to burn in a Year or not at all.. (listening in on discord chat).. because either way people won't be happy. 2. that is impossible. "Gendarme - 04/03/2018 Burning coins means modifying the public UTXO set" it does not make them accessible.. it removes them completely freeing up those coins to be mined toward the total supply cap later (years on)... the only urgency for burning the unclaimed coins.. is to fix CMC stats. people seem to not even know the meaning of the words they are using... and have the complete contrary idea for the conspiracy they are trying to push... I can see why everyone here turns to conspiracy when they are this stupid. "if price doesn't reflect my expectations immediately.. is obvious scam". 3. you're buying into a privacy coin and your evidence the entire thing is fake is because a guy,.... on the internet... has an alias? he goes by more than one name? what did you really think his birth name was crypto-jake.. I mean how stupid are you? wow it is JACOB ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED!!! why buy into a privacy coin if you don't even know what the word means? 4. this was and still is one of the most positive projects i've seen... their coin is solid and their aims are simple... maintain privacy in crypto space. accessible to anyone who wants it. with so many reports of btc addresses being linked to people... privacy is more imporant than ever. 5. exchange listing can be a literal nightmare... read this article for example from one coins experience of kucoin: https://medium.com/verifyas/our-kucoin-listing-nightmare-and-why-its-the-last-place-you-should-list-3af019e4e7f6it is this whole shifting the goal-posts thing... you can't just throw bitcoin at an exchange.. aka the price they ask to list and have it happen... even bittrex isn't straight forward, it is very corruptible. kucoin dead set asked cred how long they could run fake volume as if that is a prerequisite to be listed? people just want an authentic service and an exchange that functions as well as the blockchain.. not all this politics. 6. we are currently in a bear market phase atm, which is defined by a time of extreme uncertainty and doubt... a crisis point of sorts that has no resolve. back when bitcoin cash was being talked about (8mb blocks)... I remember every exchange hands down saying they wouldn't support it... coinbase flat out said "no take your btc somewhere else if you want it"... this is a greed driven market and one of the only reasons bitcoin cash is everywhere today is because people saw their unclaimed bitcoincash as money... but it took a couple of exchanges to fold... or to support for it to be worth anything.... and inevitably even coinbase folded to a class action lawsuit put against them by silver and miller lawyers... people paid.. bitcoin.. to get access to their 'free money'.... there was SO MUCH trash talk at that time about how bitcoin cash was shit... and the price tanked hard... I started buying into btc just to get some... and I didn't think it was that bad because I didn't listen to all the bs like what is happening to this thread... I just saw... a practicality .. 8mb blocks... and asked myself what that means and will it be useful.. and yes I felt after researching..it served a purpose... 7. bitcoin private servers a purpose.. and it is just simple... functional and underneath all the people who hate it because they lost money going ballsdeep in a bear market... and have no other reason to dislike it... it is a positive community of supporters still. sure people like profit this is a greed driven market.. but I don't really see how investors in the coins would think it is a good idea to spend all their time... fudding it in the official thread? like just kick yourself in the balls more? but my main point is... ZCL diving in price wasn't a BTCP team sell off... you have to be an absolute moron to have expected ZCL to hold its value. ZClassic to BTCP is what XMO is to Monero.... it was obsolete as soon as it happened. ZClassic got superseded... and we all know the price of ZCL went skyward to the price that reflected how much people wanted BTCP... everyone with 1/8th of a brain knew it was going to dive hard and every man and their dog's plan was to dump as soon as they could after claiming their BTCP.... I don't understand how... ZCL going down is apart of some grand conspiracy .. but I can understand how greedy people would think that if they lost money to that situation... people love this idea... that something was a scam because it takes away blame from themselves being an idiot... or just not a very good trader... I personally think it is much better to just admit you were in error.. and I do this all the time.. owning my mistakes is personally how I grow as a trader... and how I improve... and how I gain a positive out of negative situations. always blaming someone else... means you will be pretty set to do that same things wrong again and again.. because in your mind.. you're just brilliant at everything/being greedy, even if you don't get the prize. you didn't read the situation wrong, you didn't figure out how it could turn bad.. you just dove in during a tank market. and shit happened... and btcp has been stunted for what ever reason.. but mostly people are just hyper impatient. bitcoin cash took a while to come good. 8. in short... it is a pain to watch people fill the official announcement with garbage and nonsense... instead of being accusational.. just ask what you're wondering and get a response. the main reason people aren't doing that is because they will come across as how stupid their question is.. but i'm here to inform you that making stupid statements isn't any better. so just ask questions and people in the community will try answer them. 9. it isn't difficult to buy Bitcoin Private... just go on nanex: https://nanex.co/exchange/BTCPNANO generally avoid trade satoshi they aren't very reliable and go into maintenance all the time Nanex has been seamless and is blisteringly fast. but yeah... as soon as BTCP hits a high volume exchange ...it should start reflecting true value... but who knows in this market + when exchanges look to list they do actually go research and check the ANN.... and people making up stuff about infinity BTCP from a wallet glitch is just deleterious... a wallet cannot invent coins on the blockchain... over and over. it is a shame the team doesn't see what's written here as worthy of a response... but that doesn't mean it is valid... a bear market typically means no new capital is flowing into crypto-space too.. so it is actually in other coins interest to hold BTCP back.. as the rise in BTCP price would be coming directly from their market cap... and with some of the petty things that have been going on in social media .. etc.. and illogical things written here you really have to wonder... people are so prejudiced.. there is a post citing someone's age as if that means they aren't capable? this team seems smart enough to just keep their heads down and get on with making a freaking coin.. at the end of the day we just want a genuine exchange, with genuine volume and a coin that is private. Good post... Please keep them coming. |
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Completely agree with you mv1986, expectation definitely unmet. There are multiples of whammies going on, cryotos has been hammered by many, many issues from all directions (regulatory, supply chain, mining, trustworthiness, scammers, implementation speed etc.). BTCP is no exception.
I do think its ingenious to bring in both BTC and ZCL community together. Once the naysayers are done with their negativity and selling, the only place to go is up.
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