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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MTC Marinecoin will be a top 20 coin on: April 22, 2018, 09:02:35 PM

lol I still remember when people called bitcoin a pump and dump ponzi scam.  Vergd did like a 10000x or something ridiculous.

Haha! True. Many people outside of crypto still call BTC and other cryptocurrencies as ponzi schemes. I have a difficult time discussing about cryptocurrencies with my friends and relatives. Most of the times the discussions end with them declaring my investments and involvement in crypto as "foolish misadventures". And I don't try to reason with cynics too much.

Even as early as back in 2015, someone declared ETH (which was relatively new back then) as a "shit coin" as hilariously recalled in this Reddit post: www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/8dyswz/this_gem_from_2015_asks_people_to_not_to_invest/

So when someone starts to call -MTC- a "shit coin", "scam", "P&D", "garbage" I ask of them a simple thing: Please, please, please read up.

If you are shilling/trolling/promoting/demoting/praising/shitposting a coin, DYOR before you write something. Maybe it could change your opinion, or better still, get you involved in a good project.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What's the deal with Marinecoin MTC? on: April 22, 2018, 09:02:06 AM
Just stop promoting this shit coin all over this forum, i have reported close to 50 posts just spamming the forum in many threads with many accounts.
With the way the spammers are trying to promote the coin it will definitely end up being a garbage.
And the way in which they spammed this forum, admin should ban this coin being discussed in this forum, either way it will end up being another scam.

Honestly, I am tired of explaining the distribution model to people who don't care to read up before commenting. Let me try again. If the posts look like spam to you, there is a reason. Had you done 5 minutes of research, a lot of hapless BCT members wouldn't have gotten indiscriminately reported. An AI rewards airdrop to members based on these posts (promotional bounty) which are suggested (content and topic) by the AI itself. Members make suitable changes to the suggestions and post the messages. The AI has recently been incorporated with feedback features to improve the posts and they are getting better as a result. Community Members are working to improve the posts by reporting bad quality messages and topics. What you call "spam" is plain old shilling. Who you call "spammers" are normal human beings trying to earn an airdrop.

When people use words like "shit coin", "garbage" it reminds me of this - www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/8dyswz/this_gem_from_2015_asks_people_to_not_to_invest/

I'm sorry but cynicism will get us nowhere.

If you think that you are distributing it for free and not having any plans to list in any exchanges, then what is the real use of the coin and that means you are wasting everyones time with false hopes.  Tongue

Rather than listing on exchanges, the dev's main aim is to get the coin into as many hands as possible, followed by community members developing projects and DApps on the platform and starting to use the coin for transactions (tremendously fast speed of transaction, near nil fees). As we speak, one community member is in the process of signing 2 deals worth a total of EUR 650k for developing 2 separate projects. It's not much but it's something to start off with. The dev, along with all community members, obviously want the coin's value to improve. But getting the coin listed or trading is not the primary aim at this moment. What is the point of listing if there is no real world use case, please explain. As I said, cynicism will get us nowhere. People who can't appreciate a free and fair distribution model will find ulterior motives in anything.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What's the deal with Marinecoin MTC? on: April 19, 2018, 10:40:09 AM
Its a shitcoin that is being airdroped to those who spam how good marine coin is,same thing that happened with deeponion few months ago here...Those coins airdroped to thier spamers like 97% of total coin suply so people spam here thinking that it might worth anything Undecided

Hello, please do 1 transaction of .MTC. and tell me if you don't get impressed by its speed and nil fees. It is available for purchase for 1 sat on their exchange. They have also made it unfriendly for miners. You can try mining and find out. And then please tell us if you continue to feel if it is a "shitcoin".

Not to mention growing collaborative community, free distribution of 95% supply, AI maintained blockchain etc. are additional points to consider too.

Regarding the spam messages, since the airdrop is maintained by an AI engine that makes topic and message suggestions, some of it is of low quality currently. Dev has incorporated feedback system in the AI to improve both based on suitable "Report" buttons that airdrop seekers can click when claiming the airdrop.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AIRDROP][BOUNTY] Marinecoin - Fast Eco-Friendly AI IoT Payment Network on: April 13, 2018, 09:00:56 AM
Just a little update from dev Bruce on Discord: All old messages and topics have been purged from AI database. Thus effectively removing all bad posts and topics. Also if any 2 members report a message/topic, it will be removed immediately. Additionally, members can post a message to any suitable topic of their choice if they feel that the suggested topic by AI is inappropriate and they can also make changes to the message to edit/remove shill-like/spammy sentences. The AI accepts the changes upto a certain limit (15%).

I can not understand!! Now there is a way to get your tokens? If so, then can you tell me about these methods?

ICO is still ongoing in the form of an airdrop based on promotional bounty. Go to marinecoin.info/ico/pop/login.php if you know the rules. Or join Discord server/Telegram channel and community members will help you.

You can also contribute messages to the AI database at marinecoin.info/ico/new.php. AI will make suggestions to you when you contribute messages.

Please make sure that the post(s) you make are of high quality, are informative and stay relevant to the topic posted in. Basically, they should be a value-add to the forum and help continue a discussion. Be responsible when choosing topics and messages. Use the "Report Topic" and "Report Message" buttons freely. There's a lot of low quality shill/spammy messages flying around that are giving the project a bad name.
5  Other / Meta / Re: New Shill Accounts for Marinecoin on: April 11, 2018, 06:41:03 PM

First off, nobody is saying that this is not a legitimate project.  Second off, the math error made by LogitechMouse does not really take away from the point made and calling names is childish.

The issue is that there was/is a preponderance of shill posts that did not make much sense and were copy/paste posts which you claim should get better with time in your point 3 above.  An AI posting assistant is just silly (IMHO) so that people can get their airdop coins.  The merit system was built to discourage posts like these.  The accounts are getting banned because they add absolutely no value at all to the topic in which they post them.  

I admire the idea of trying to discourage whales from owning large quantities of the coin, but the main point of the post was not to bad-mouth the coin or its devs or its community members.  It was simply to point out the shill posts.

I said myself in the OP that 'This coin may not even be the only one doing this.  I just haven't noticed any others.'  The fact that your coin's posts stood out to multiple different people as being shill posts says something.  I'm sure your coin is not the only one and I'm sorry if your account(s) were banned for your posts.  Established accounts were not included in my OP to be considered as stated 'I know I am not alone when I say that I am sick of the Brand New/Newbie accounts being created simply to post once or twice in various threads about Marinecoin.'  

Again, I hope you can understand my points and realize that I was not directly attacking established members or the project as a whole.  It was simply about the posts.

As I already said, I apologise for calling names. I got angry because there is a major difference between trillion and billion and a 450 trillion coin supply makes it look like a bad joke. Yes, many of the airdrop seekers were completely irresponsible when choosing topics. A mechanism has already been put in place to report and slowly remove these topics from the AI database when making suggestions to improve post quality and topic relevance. The AI was introduced because some airdrop seekers were making bad quality posts to get the 450k coins in Phase I. Any project needs some amount of promotion to succeed, you'll agree. It just happens that Marinecoin devs chose this form of promotion to be the best.


Well this is just silly. All it does is give people a negative perception of your coin because they see it being spammed everywhere by shills. If you want to promote it then do it in other ways or at least reward people for doing something constructive as opposed to just signing up to make an off topic post or thread in the wrong section.

The community has already discussed with the devs on opening other channels for the airdrop as well and he is open to it. But the current focus is on bitcointalk because most of the crypto world hangs out here. No other reason. Community members have also started working on a marketplace program where members can get airdrops for constructive tasks. As mentioned above, a mechanism has already been put in place to report and slowly remove irrelevant topics from the AI database when making suggestions to improve post quality and topic relevance.
6  Other / Meta / Re: New Shill Accounts for Marinecoin on: April 11, 2018, 09:59:28 AM
I hate those newbies posting for that shitty marinecoin claiming that they will earn 450,000 coins. They are very annoying I hope some admins do something to stop this shitty airdrop. 450,000 coins just for airdrop and per person? LOOLL. Imagine that 1,000,000 people joined in this fucking airdrop, so they will distribute a total of 450 TRILLION coins and that is just for airdrop only. What about the token sale? The coin for the devs. This marinecoin is pure BULLSHIT!!!!!
I am writing this at the risk of restarting a forgotten thread shitposting about a legitimate project. But this level of ignorance is just too much for me to tolerate.

Firstly, let's not get carried away with numbers just because you have a calculator. And a faulty one at that. 1 million * 450k = 450 Bn and not 450 Tn you dinkus.

Secondly, total MTC circulation is capped at 10 Bn and a time dilution approach to airdrop is being adopted whereby airdrop payoff will slowly reduce over time. This is similar to mining payoffs reducing with time with increase in mathematical complexity. MTC devs discourage mining and have designed the system such that miners can't get enough MTC. You can try to mine and find out if you want to verify this.

The thread author says he/she did not even care to research Marinecoin. But did have the time and energy to write to mods against it and badmouth the project.

So, let me put out a few points in the hope that I can change your minds:

1) The Marinecoin project has a coin distribution model which is free and fair. 95% of total supply (10 Bn) will be distributed to airdrop claimers through a proof of promotion bounty. Currently this promotion is restricted to Bitcointalk posts. The reason for this distribution model is to have a large and distributed community and prevent hoarding by few. The dev will retain 1% of coins for, in his/her own words, "my family"

2) The Project is almost entirely community-run (except for the core dev). Volunteers from the community moderate forums and channels. They create DApps on the platform. In the initial phase of ICO (Phase I) where 450,000 coins were being distributed to airdrop seekers, volunteers were also filtering the applications to weed out double dippers. But the scamming went so much out of hand that the dev created an AI engine to help with the ICO (Phase II) where 20,000 coins are being rewarded to airdrop hunters. People can claim 20k coins every 24 hours by making a promotional post.

3) The AI engine is like a BCT message posting assistant that helps people write informative messages about the project (Phase I had many non-informative posts that looked like pure spam). Some of its grammar and sentence construction is currently out of place. But like a deep learning AI it is improving with every passing day to provide better suggestions. Since, posts are not allowed to deviate too much from the original suggestions, many people just post what the AI told them to. Hence the messages seem spammy. For now. However, it will not seem like this for long.

In light of this, many of our community members had their accounts banned and messages deleted. I am pretty certain that most people did nothing to find out why so many messages about Marinecoin was around and that too by Newbie Accounts. People simply assumed it was spam/bots/scam etc. and reported the messages. Some of us tried to appeal through mail to the mods but got no replies. So we were forced to let go of our original accounts and create new ones for posting. If you ever get your account banned for no apparent fault, you will get how it feels. Please understand it's a legitimate effort to promote a good project. Nothing more, nothing less.

And yes, I did get my 450,000 coins in Phase I and continue to get 20,000 coins everyday in Phase II. But some of your jealous friends got my account banned. So I was compelled to come back with a new Account. I have had my say and I am content now. I am sorry for calling you a dinkus but shitposting makes me angry. You can PM me if you want to know more about the project. I am a community member too who fell in love with the lightning fast speeds of transaction, zero transaction fees and no mining support. If you want to test any of this, I'll send over 10 MTC to your Marinecoin wallet. I am not the dev. But if you feel offended about my post, go ahead. Get this Account banned as well if that makes you feel good.
7  Other / Meta / Re: Legend and Hero subsection on BTC and ALT boards. Please?? on: April 11, 2018, 07:54:55 AM
This is very sad that senior members consider Marinecoin posts as spam without realising why the messages look how they are and why they are so many in number. All proof of promotion ICOs work this way.

Why the messages look the way they are? An AI Engine manages Marinecoin's ICO and makes text suggestion to airdrop participants. After a person makes a post it compares its suggestion with the post to measure deviation and rewards airdrop if there is not much deviation. The AI is a deep learning one and is learning over time to improve its language and grammar. Till then posts will look botted.

Why there's so many posts? A member can apply for the airdrop everyday with 1 post till supply runs out (95% of total supply i.e. 10 Bn is being distributed in this way). So all members may post once a day on bitcointalk.

It's an honest effort that everybody is putting in to earn the airdrops. There's no bots, there's no spam and there's definitely no scam. It's only plain old shilling.

Additionally, there's many Newbie accounts where these posts are coming from. The reason for this is that many of the participants' original accounts were banned for supposedly spamming BCT. Hence they are forced to create a new account to promote the project when they don't get any reply from the ban appeals mail ID.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Hidden Gems on: April 11, 2018, 07:46:55 AM
When it comes to commerce you want fast, accuracy and security against hackers. Marinecoin is building a community of over twenty thousand people . It it very secure. Marinecoin is one of the most promising projects. The ICO only requires you to do proof of promotion to be part of the awesome mtc ccommunity. There’s no ICO, zero fees,  no pre-sale, but will send to everyone! It’s proof of promotion. And uses artificial intelligence.You can refer to them and join ico at marineco.in. It's dev-less and time tested, supports IoT. Join proof of promotion.
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