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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: December 29, 2013, 09:19:40 AM

I don't understand what's all this discussion about. Who would want to delete his post. The guy just accidentally deleted it and stated screaming here and there. There are lots of stupid posts from trolls which are not deleted, so why the hell Graviton would delete such ordinary post. Calm down people.

That's great, you don't understand what the discussion is about, and yet assume I deleted it, and I'm trolling. thanks. Wink

btw.  I'm the one that said I would be accused of deleting my post, which I did not. But good on you for picking up those reins.


I do not delete valid posts. I know nothing about this and don't have time to look at it right now. I need to prioritize forum rumours / paranoia / discussion mishaps from individual persons rather low. Thanks

Thank u. That guy was trolling, maybe he deleted his own post...


No thank you..  for continuing to call an investing person of NXT a troll ..2nd time? Come-from-Beyond, developer of NXT.. and not actually answering the questions or joining in the conversation (not only me) on how a system so weighted for the founders and high stake holders, it creates a no-loss system of block rewards for those same founders and high stake holders, only, while maintaining their majority stake.

I will say I find it interesting that my post count still reads as 6, but only 5 of my posts actually exist in that thread (not including the one that has disappeared).. Mmm.. If I had deleted my own post, which I clearly would not, wouldn't it only say... 5 posts?  If you go into my posts you can still see it in fact..  How did I somehow "accidentally delete it" but somehow create a way for it to still exist in my post count?  haha  

https://nextcoin.org/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=4657

Thanks for pretending to be interested in what happened, and then flipping to call me a troll, again, immediately after though. That's rich.

it seems others have been enlightened by the forging, and they seem interested, and that's a good thing.
really, bye now.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: December 29, 2013, 12:18:02 AM
This is all I'm gonna I'm going to speak on this, it is quite literally a waste of my time telling people to just look at the NXT blockchain to see the same conclusion anyone with common sense will find, then to be called a troll by founders and the developer.

Not going into your post content wise, i would like to go into it from a communication point of view.
I find it hard to believe that you are surprised by the reception you got on the forums.

Your first post starts with a HUGE pic of the blockchain with angry red ALLCAPS pointing out the unfairness.
Now, I'm not saying the system may or may not be inherently unfair. I am reserving judgement.

However, if from post ONE, you come in criticising, I as a mod or admin would also be taken aback and think "who the hell is this guy and why does he even post on a forum for a product he evidently doesn't trust?".

If someone would have done that on my forums, I'd basically ignore him as someone who barges into a pub and starting to complain about the bad quality of the establishment.

Contentwise you may be right, but you are doing yourself and your viewpoint a severe disservice by basically communicating extemely aggressively. And yes, at that point, the discussion will most probably nót go about content, but emotion.  Roll Eyes

One last thing, because I only just noticed it and it sorta ties in to your points..

...to be fair, you probably shouldn't base judgment on the content on forums and just draw your own conclusions, I mean for example, the proposal I made on nextcoin.org forum has been deleted,
per the print screen I made last night.. you know.. just in case.. hah.

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,1268.msg13727.html#msg13727



and a print screen from today.. same forum, gone...



btw you can see people on the next page reacting to the proposal, but I guess they decided it wasn't fit for their forum, or perhaps they'll say I deleted it. I did not.

those big red letters were the current font I had selected, sorry if it screamed agenda. peace.
and like my last post on nextcoin.org (before it was deleted)

see you in 6 months... Wink
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: December 28, 2013, 11:29:20 PM
You should post in the video that NxT's are going for 500,000% of what they sold for by the original democratically selected stakeholders. And then stress that in a month or two, you'd have to use Mega percents because that's how rocket fast this is growing! Grin

it is a nice profit for that risk.

Yes, for $4,000 worth (21 BTC in October-Nov) of risk split between 73 people.

Easy to say for people on the other side, but for those who are looking to get in, you should have a little empathy.

How is some people making a profit in what is basically an IPO hurting people who didn't invest?

They didn't invest, so aren't losing something, nor are they forced to invest now.

If they choose to invest, that is their business and their choice.

I have a hard time figuring out what your point is other than in your opinion "it isn't fair".

There's been some talk about it over on nextcoin.org, over "being fair".  
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,1268.msg13596.html#msg13596


You can have NOT a single issue with the pre-mined, 73 founders having the stake aspects, and still see it as a very greedy, self-destructing, unfair system.  The forging allows the founders to essentially have a no-loss system, about a 5% average of daily block rewards, (which they could just cash out daily in BTC if they wanted) in the range of 100-200K NXT for each 50 MIL holder, and still keep their majority stake of NXT in-tact to forge the same 5% the next day (based on my non-scientific observations of the blockchain over the last couple of days), while the rest of the "common folk", with less than say a million coins, will probably never forge, ever.  As the forging code is currently written.

I proposed a small fix allowing the fees for each block to be split amongst all forgers big and small cats randomly, but it's just small fix and will probably not stop the bleed out when 99% of the non major stake holders realize they will be leaving their computers/clients running NXT for no reason.  Not really the "cleanest" system as proposed huh?

This is all I'm gonna I'm going to speak on this, it is quite literally a waste of my time telling people to just look at the NXT blockchain to see the same conclusion anyone with common sense will find, then to be called a troll by founders and the developer.

What's that old saying..?
A lot of something is something
All of nothing is nothing.
4  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trust No One on: December 27, 2013, 11:52:23 PM
Thanks for the advice..
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